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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 07:49 PM) Chicago's murder rate is still less than 1/2 of what it was in the early 90's. 20 years ago there were >900 murders per year in Chicago. Now there are around 450-500. This has been pointed out to you before. You are not horrified by last weekend? You are not horrified by a woman being killed sitting on her porch? I prefer not to talk about numbers and stats after a weekend like that. I am purely horrified. QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 07:50 PM) So the reason that poor African-American neighborhoods have seen an influx of violence is because the kids sit around and watch violent movies all day and because there are zero churches or religious figures in those neighborhoods. Gotcha. I'm saying our entire culture is now negative and violent. Anything positive is mocked. Nothing is as cut and dried as you just state. But I expect a response like that after a post about religion. I get it!! Religious people are a joke. Religious people are mocked. I get it. I'm used to it. Don't need to remind me. I want SOLUTIONS to all this violence. Anybody who is not appalled by last weekend in Chicago baffles me.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 08:44 PM) Religious people aren't violent. My point is everything that is inherently bad is embraced in our modern world. Everything that is good is mocked. The results? Chicago is not a safe place any more.

This is getting ridiculous. A woman can't even walk on her porch in the once great city of Chicago without having to LEAVE THIS WORLD after getting killed. The American dream is going going, close to being GONE. WTF is going on, Chicago??? Get your act together. All these killings in one weekend? What the f***???? You guys will jump me for this, but this is all about society. We can have violent movie after violent movie that shows murder, torture, and everything is cool. Hey ,there's nothing wrong with art, freedom of expression. Boom, let's watch some good ol fashioned killing. The more the merrier in the movies. But somebody talks about God or religion and the world jumps down their throats. How dare you talk about God. He doesn't exist. He's the same as the invisible boogeyman. There is no God. Quit shoving him down our throats! How dare you talk about gun control and keeping guns off the streets!! We need those guns!!! Everything is out of whack and God help us all. I mean that poor woman is living her life and at 66 is on her porch and boom, she's dead. Why? No reason. Somebody had a gun and was shooting it. Nobody cares, so why should I? Sickening. http://gawker.com/horror-in-chicago-as-82-...h-of-1601170588

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 07:22 PM) Because he's still young and there have been some encouraging signs from him this season. Odds are, you're right, he is a bust of sorts and he won't ever turn into a very productive player, basically turning into the Cuban Delmon Young. He still has quick hands and a powerful stroke, and guys like that can turn it around in a New York minute,so you could see the Encarnacion/Beltre/Bautista/Davis outbreak where Viciedo becomes a very good hitter, but I don't see it happening. Right now, his value is incredibly low due to his lack of production to this point with his impending arbitration (and subsequent pay raise with less team control as well). On top of that, the Sox don't have someone beating down the door needing to play - they would be replacing him with Jordan Danks, Moises Sierra, or Michael Taylor. Thus, you play him and see if something clicks and he turns himself into a good player. If between the remainder of this season and next you can pretty safely tell he's not going to figure it out, you can begin to look at some change of scenery guys. Bottom line, I don't see any reason to deal him unless a team is willing to overpay, and why would a team in contention be willing to overpay for an underproducing player? Good post. Makes total sense. I was just assuming the M's had interest in him and might overpay after his good series vs. them.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 02:26 PM) Concealed carry probably saved some lives in Chicago: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/b...0,5324984.story Also Greg/others, 60 people shot in the city over the weekend. 7 killed. Where's Nancy Grace and the faux outrage? edit: Let's update that. 14 killed, 82 shot. http://gawker.com/horror-in-chicago-as-82-...h-of-1601170588 Chicago is a fricking mess with the shootings/murders. People should be demanding action. This is bulls***. Is this city most dangerous in the civilized world now?

QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 02:07 PM) No, it was a dumb comment. To say any team that takes Dunn will no longer be a contender is ridiculous. If a contending team trades for Dunn, they will most likely be acquiring him to use him in certain situations. He can still hit the ball very far, especially against right handed pitching, and his OBP is pretty high. The guy has 12 home runs; Paulie has five. Guess what? Paulie would have 12 home runs if he had as many plate appearances as Dunn. I stand by my comment. Dunn is done. Any contender that acquires him has made a huge mistake IMO. QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 04:15 PM) Dunn's contract expires at the end of the year and the Sox are clearly not going anywhere this year, so even though I am satisfied with his performance this year, I don't consider him a useful asset. Now, if guys like Beckham and Ramirez are traded off for little or no return, then I will be pissed. Geez, you are satisfied with Dunn's performance? Why? 12 home runs? If Hahn can get anybody useful for Dunn, bless Hahn. I can't imagine a contender wanting to mess with him.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 01:38 AM) The way I look at the situation is like this. Unless you can get some actual value for Viciedo right now, we're better off giving a full season and using him as an insurance policy in LF/DH heading into the offseason. If Hahn is somehow able to upgrade both positions, then dump Viciedo for whatever you can, as someone will absorb his $5M salary. Otherwise, you at least have a young, high potential hitter with multiple years of team control to roll the dice on. Again, we need to look at the bigger picture here. We have multiple needs to fill where we don't have internal options. To realistically think we can acquire a starting catcher, a #2/#3 caliber RH starter, a left-handed power bat, and several RP in just one offseason is already quite ambitious. I don't see a reason to create another hole right now unless value is there. How much do we have to see of Viciedo to realize he's a bust? I'd trade him now following a good series. Trade him to the M's. They had to be impressed at the 4-hit game. Get a catcher with promise and a pitcher with decent upside and that's good enough.

QUOTE (winninguglyin83 @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 02:19 AM) Heard on the radio today that Dunn has not driven in a run since June 18. The end is near. He's done. Whatever team signs him next year is foolish. At this point, he deserves about 2 million a year. The guy is a power hitter who can't hit home runs.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 12:30 AM) In before Greg uses this as proof that Sale isn't an ace but Mark is. I wouldn't tie Mark's making it as a negative. Both should have made it. Buehrle defines 'all star' and deserves it. Obviously Sale deserves it too. He better win that contest to get on the team. If the AL wants to win, he should be on the team.

QUOTE (Charlie Haeger's Knuckles @ Jul 6, 2014 -> 09:13 PM) Way to suck at life, Dayan Viciedo. This team sucks. Trade everyone except for Sale and Abreu and I don't know, maybe somebody else. You could keep Eaton and some of the starting pitchers. Keep A. Garcia til we see if he's anything special.

Hawk is being a male b**** today. Acts like he knows it all compared to Stoney.

At least Tank made contact with 2 strikes. Wow LaMarr Hoyt. Should have pitched decisive game five on a Sunday, but nooo. The Dybber struck his evil baserunning magic.

If Hector is this good, it begs the question: Why are the Sox no good? Sox have four good starters if Hector is good.

Supposedly the government may eventually break up the cult. Maybe that's why they have to make sure they don't make any waves. If they go in and bust it up, it'd be interesting to see what happens with Jesus of Siberia. Does he just burn the white robe and apply for jobs as a cop again? To his followers say, "Oh well, that was a good run. See you all later."

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 6, 2014 -> 07:59 PM) Beckham seems to forget that right field is in play. He's pulling everything. Is he stubborn? Dumb? He seems to have some tools. I wonder if he's uncoachable cause he defines mediocre.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 6, 2014 -> 03:13 PM) Yes. Dunn will get you a decent prospect in return if you eat the contract. I'm guessing the Sox will deal him for for two high upside types in A ball that are in the teens of someone's system and take the salary relief though. Dunn can help a playoff contender. Not sure why people think he can't. We know they aren't going to eat the contract. What does he make the second half of his final season anyway? 10 million? No team is going to pay that for Mr. Whiff. He's not the kind of guy a team needs. If a team is a contender by now, they probably have somebody way better than Dunn.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 6, 2014 -> 06:22 PM) K , so Dunn's a free agent and Viciedo is supposedly going to be traded for a pile of horse manure. So the Sox lose their 2nd and 3rd best power hitters leaving Jose ABreu to out-homer the rest of the team combined ? Hell yea lets put all the pressure on Abreu to carry the team and rely on a bunch of .250 hitters who can't get on base to score runs. Without HR's the Sox will be so so bad. I hope all you folks advocating a powerless team have a plan because it's real easy to say who to get rid of. Use all those fancy stats to come up with more than who to get rid of. Good point about the HRs. Sox need them. But the Sox are already bad. It's a last-place team two years in a row. And Viciedo and Dunn don't have that many homers. I guess about 10 apiece. Yeah, that's 15 more than a guy like Danks will hit but they are not producing. I think we all still have hopes for Viciedo, but if he won't change his approach, just like the Royals' Hosmer won't (swinging as hard as he can every pitch) what can the Sox do but let him go? I can stomach more of Viciedo if I have to cause he's had some monster games like the 4-or-4 and I think he's had one or two three-hit games. QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 6, 2014 -> 06:24 PM) At the end of the day, I think it's going to be difficult to find the proper return for Viciedo. He's likely going to be a mediocre hitter the rest of his career who always flashes with his talent. His upside and talent that shows like an Encarnacion or Beltre is always going to get him chances and give the team who has him under contract optimism for the future, thus possibly overvaluing him. The thing is, Dayan Viciedo is the exact type of player people want to acquire during rebuilds. See if the guy can put it together and if not, you have others coming up in the minors. We're sick of him as Sox fans because we've seen him for years and years, but how many Rangers fans were tired of Chris Davis murdering AAA and coming up and failing? How about the Reds with Encarnacion? It's not the worst thing to not get a return on someone via trade. Frankly, the same thing goes for Beckham too with the caveat that the Sox have middle infield depth and Beckham is a free agent after next season. So, no,I don't think they should trade him unless they get a big enough offer, which I don't foresee happening. Thing is, he had a good series vs. Seattle and supposedly they want him. So I was thinking we could get Seattle to overpay. If so, trade him. If he stays, try to get Abreu to get him to listen to the hitting coach and make some adjustments. He has the power to hit to all fields if he'd just shorten his swing and do it.

QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Jul 6, 2014 -> 07:13 AM) Im actually in California right now because my dad, who is a Vietnam vet, had been going to the VA out here for months complaining of stomach pains amongst other things and was continually either rescheduled or just had basic tests run on him where they told him he was ok and was probably dehydrated and on Thursday the pain got so bad he called 911 and was taken to a different hospital where they relatively quickly found a golf ball sized tumor in his colon. The surgery to remove it seems to have gone well and were still awaiting the results of the biopsy but it was pretty infuriating to know that the VA essentially hung him out to dry and had he not called 911 he probably would have died waiting for the VA to diagnose and treat him. It gets to the point where they might be better served recommending people go to a regular doctor/hospital to get diagnosed and then returning to the VA or something for the treatment. I dont know if thats even feasible but they need to do something. I probably would never even have given this issue a second thought before this experience but its been a real eye opener. Thanks for sharing this story. Best wishes.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 5, 2014 -> 11:21 PM) Well, other than the fact that this guy isn't eligible to run for the presidency in the U.S., that would be tough. Maybe he's writing an anti-Hilary screed? Sounds more like David Koresh mixed with the Manson Family and Unabomber, with a little Ken Kesey thrown in for good measure. Great last sentence. Vissarion appears to be very 'gentle.' His talks to the people are in hushed tones. I did read something about his traveling to Italy and a few other places the past few years to "recruit members." So maybe he is doing some of the lavish thing on the side. But there's no money so I don't know where he'd get money to travel. I did read a line somewhere about people giving up their life savings when they arrive so maybe he gets that. There's not a lot of info written in English on the guy. My take is the sex thing. Surely he can have sex with any of the women he wants since he is the fake Jesus.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 5, 2014 -> 09:58 PM) This is exactly why you shouldn't use Google You mean if you are a psychotic, selfish, piece of s*** psycho who wants to enact a murder? Yeah google should be offlimits unless u destroy your computer before enacting the sickening crime.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 6, 2014 -> 12:19 AM) You know what, Greg? You're right. I don't know how I didn't see this before. Sometimes I confuse Rock and Dick Allen. I think Rock's position is the one in which it's mainly the horrific roster being the problem, not so much Robin.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 5, 2014 -> 09:45 PM) Man, you do not get this. I love this trade for the Cubs as Samardzija was gone anyway. 0% chance he was staying. Cubs get a top prospect in return AND another good A's prospect. The downside? Still 0 pitching. And the Sox are doing a combination of what the Cubs are doing - trying to acquire good prospects - and getting MLB talent like Avi, Eaton, and Abreu. Toss in the fact that the Sox have two pillars in the rotation (Sale and Q) signed cheaply, just drafted one of the most vaunted college pitchers of all time, and I'll still take what the Sox are doing. The Cubs are going "all in" on prospects. Sox aren't. I'd hate if we tried to go all in on prospects, ESPECIALLY hitting prospects. I didn't know you wanted balance. I thought you were one of the 'all in' prospects guys. My bad. I do think a lot of people on this board are 'all in' prospects guys and would be thrilled if we were doing what the Cubs are doing. I'm a free agent guy myself. Just NOT free agents like Dunn. Geez he had a lousy Sox tenure.

The crowd looked smallish on mlb today.

Let's face it. Rock is primarily right concerning Robin. This is more on Kenny and Hahn somewhat. Robin's roster is so bad no manager would have any better record than Robin's that is for sure. Pretty much all the relievers are equally horrific when trying to save a game. I may think Robin is a clown, as well, but his record this year speaks for itself. Not bad for the roster.

Even though Viciedo may be creeping closer to league average, it's apparent he's just not very good. Trade him to the M's after this series in which he's actually hit pretty well and try to rob them while we are at it. He hit the ball this series. M's have to be intrigued. Make them overpay and get rid of Dayan.