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That's what they said in 77 when Soderholm, Spencer, Garr, Gamble, Zisk made for a delightful summer of love in Comiskey. I'm one of those losers who believes you win the division and anything can happen in the playoffs. With my scenario, our pitching staff and defense would likely be good nuff to perhaps dominate October. Just my take.

Lip. I love your knowledge. Little surprised at your take here. Clevinger, Crochet, Fedde, Cease and Lynn/ J-Lo is a division winning rotation. Kopech is MLB caliber reliever. Yes Sox would have needed 2 additional relievers who actually are serviceable not like the stiffs on this team. Lineup: Mendick and Pham and Ramos and Lee have done wonders for the lineup which started the season worst in baseball history maybe. DeJong has been better than expected. Get rid of Maldy and Lopez and acquire Pham types and this team coulda vied for the division title. Now everybody wants the Sox to trade any and everybody on the roster that is moveable. So the Sox get 5-10 new players who you hope will develop and in 3-4 years help team win the WS. That is as laughable as my suggestions which also could field a division winner. Don't understand, Lip, why you think the Sox didn't have a path to the division title with evidence my above mentioned comments. Why do you guys who want to dump players want to tank/rebuild when it didn't work last time? We have proof right here tanking is ridiculous, the failed White Sox experiment.

Baseball truly is a crazy game. The White Sox are just a couple key players from being a contender this season. Too bad it took Getz a month to wake up and Pedro some time to get a clue. Great victory. I loves me some Pham. Since he got to the clubhouse the team has been playing contender-like baseball, as good as any Central team. Poor Vaughn is a headcase. I hate babying Crochet. Is it proven that if you suddenly pitch a lot of MLB innings your arm is doomed to surgery? It seems it's doomed to multiple surgeries anyway. He is special. Congrats to him for another great performance. The White Sox are not miserable anymore. Interesting how they are playing well at home for the first time in many years. Some contenders will definitely want DeJong and Crochet and Pham at this rate.

Go back five or so years and this was the common post from those who loved tanking/rebuilding. I stuck to my guns and said I would have preferred keeping Sale and trying to win the traditional way. Trading anybody worthy of being on a MLB roster MAY or MAY NOT help this team in 3-4 seasons. I see no need to trade everybody with a pulse and again open 3-24 next season and have the season be over before school lets out. There was a time everybody was excited about TA, Eloy, Moncada. Championship caliber players to build around following a tank job. Didn't work. I'll keep Sale any day.

Yes and that woulda meant contention had the Sox also added one more reliever who can get people out. Remember our division blows.

So basically the Sox are trying to assure another 40-to-50 win season next year. I don't understand modern rebuilding. It's disgraceful.

Is Fedde the guy who pitched overseas last year? Is he good? If he is we got 3 good starters. This team is not that far away from competing if they got 3 good starters. By my count we only got one good reliever though. Kudos to Pedro for not benching Vaughn in game two. Those 2 homers have to help his confidence some. If he'd been benched we woulda got swept and he'd be despondent over his badness in game one. Nice catch by DeJong. Kind of weird we're playing way better without Robert and Moncada. It'd sure help the team if Mendick was healthy.

That one game I saw a picture of this year there weren't 200 people there.

I wish somebody would count the actual amount of people at games where it's obvious under 1,000 are there. I'm assuming nobody is there on a Tuesday afternoon supporting our lousy team.

If Sox can sweep the Nationals on Tuesday they officially are merely a bad team, not historically bad. If the Sox get swept, that is really gonna be deflating and could lead to another bad losing streak. If the Sox split, it means nothing. Just my takes.

I was thinking promoting some more minor leaguers and trading Moncada for a solid starter even though the word starter now means a 5 1/3 inning guy.

If I were Reinsdorf I'd meet with Getz immediately and tell him to make some more moves and upgrade. The team has shown life since he got moving and shaking and made some moves to improve a historically bad team. Maldy and Lopez being replaced would IMMENSELY help this club. Hopefully our young 3Bman can stick all year. And of course Pham has been a godsend. He's gonna need a day off soon though and we'll assuredly lose that game.

Can't somebody teach him the lift and pull method? He can only survive in the bigs as a 40 HR guy or a doubles machine pelting shots off the wall regularly. I'd prefer he develop a HR stroke.

Did Pedro start a Sunday lineup like my man, Oz, used to do? If so I'm enraged again. Woulda been nice to win all four. Sox are gonna have to win 8 of every 10 for an extended period of time if they wanna get back in the chase.

Don't worry. Usually when I make a proclamation the other thing happens (Costanza-like).

I actually am thinking if the Sox get good that will be a pretty good call embraced by fans. Even though many of us think such catchphrases are stupid, they seem to catch on quickly if the team is any good. Four in a row is worth getting excited about. I heard his close on the mlb highlights and I wasn't offended this time. We shall see if fans like it. If the Sox go back to dropping 8 of 10 it's ridiculous to do the south side stand up after a rare win. But if these Sox are for real, it'll be fine IMO.

Agreed. I'd just hate to see him with two more 0-for-4s and suddenly be under .200.

Now we even win a game in which nothing too spectacular happens. Pham-mania has hit the south side. He has turned this season around. Hope Getz is continuing to think of ways to improve the club. His moves since the season started have been good. I'd dump Moncada soon so as to not kill the good vibes. I see our 3B sparkplug is 0-for-8 last two games. Hope he starts hitting again. I want him in the big leagues. Suddenly Pedro is safe and Getz is safe. Beating Cleve 3 in a row is nice. Glad Eloy is still healthy. Nicky whom I despise had a great game. Victory baby.

If that's true I so despise that line of thinking. I think some fans take comfort in the tank years. They write off year after year in a tank and then they ofttimes get these White Sox as a result. The first tank job was reprehensible. Everything about it. Teams need to stop tanking!

It's amazing how bad a player Tim Anderson is. He's hitting .197 I see and I assume he's no Ron Hansen at shortstop still. Boots too many. One has to think his career is in jeopardy. He might be toast.

I'll give him credit for belting six homers and I assume he's been playing a dandy SS (I don't watch the games so I dunno). If he keeps this up and is not an automatic out as he was early on I will be a happy camper and praise him.

I may have predicted 20-35 wins but that's before they 'finally' changed the roster a bit. Thank goodness for the tinkering. I wish they'd make a few more moves. ... None of us want the team to lose BTW. You have to admit without some of the recent additions (we all know who they are) the Sox would still be losing eight of every 10 games or 9 of 10 IMO.

Good! I thought we'd been discusssing on the board flipping EVERYBODY and stinking again next year.

No hurry. Just play them and pay them whatever they get before free agency and enjoy them. For gawd sakes folks we don't need to sign everybody who is hot and we don't need to trade young prospects. Enjoy and build baby, build!!

I'll say it now. There is no reason to trade Crochet or Lee! At some point you need good players to win frickin' pennants. Getting rid of good players is a LOSING strategy. And by the way Pham has saved this season. He saved Pedro's job. He's made Getz look like a young genius. WINNING baby cures all.