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QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Oct 16, 2012 -> 10:23 PM) Ask and ye shall receive Thanx.

QUOTE (ewokpelts @ Oct 16, 2012 -> 09:24 PM) I think whenpeople say "tix are too expensive", they really mean "lower deck tix are too expensive" Too many lower level snobs. Upper deck tix with a code were as low as $7 thi year yet the upper deck was half empty. That's probably a pretty good point. I know when I go to a game I don't wanna sit in the upper tank. Hey here's a good one for you. I have some friends coming up from Chicago to go to the Kansas-Texas football game. No way I am going to pay money for Kansas football tickets for god sakes with the stands half full. So my rich car dealer, a very nice guy, gave me four tickets for the game. I looked at the ticket and they are 80 bucks a pop. Can you imagine??? Kansas football. 80 bucks a ticket. My car dealer gave me 320 bucks of goods for free. Nice guy, but my god, how could anybody pay 80 bucks to go see a Kansas football game!?

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Oct 16, 2012 -> 07:59 PM) Yeah, it's probably over the top. I deserve what I have coming to me Why not just kill it? Your other posts are usually pretty good.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Oct 16, 2012 -> 06:18 PM) I think there's truth in this. Can you really expect people to pay $25-100 on a ticket plus parking plus food on something that happens 162 times over a 6 months span? I understand football being expensive as there are less than twenty games a year. I always think the media is talking to me when they complain about attendance, but I always attend a handful of games each year. How much are we expected to attend? Am I really the problem or are they only targeting people that go to zero? We talk about prices like they're a one-time expense, but don't we really need a bunch of people going to a lot of games to improve attendance? If you want someone to go to ten games, you're asking for several hundred dollars. Now, if you're taking a family of four, you're talking potentially thousands. Great post. I think the Sox would be thrilled in this economy to have a fan like you go to "a handful" of games a year.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Oct 14, 2012 -> 12:40 PM) If it looks like s***, and it smells like s***, and it's coming from Ozzie...then I'd bet $100 it's on greg's tongue too. I don't want to be a dick, but the fact this post has not been killed after being up here for days really says something about the mods' inconsistencies, IMO. I mean what is goin on? I like witesoxfan's posts a lot of the time, but I have a feeling if I wrote that post I'd be suspended. I'm sure the mods are good people who work hard but I personally feel they missed one there. It is not conducive to good family discussion. To the Ozzie haters, I mean isn't life better that there's one vocal Ozzie supporter on soxtalk? How boring life would be if everybody agreed Ozzie was evil. People disagree in this world, even if it's just one lone voice versus 1,000. It's a good lesson for kids on this board. Stick to your beliefs. I think the guy is a great manager and funny as hell. If he sucked this year, who cares? It wasn't our team. It was the Marlins.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 16, 2012 -> 05:20 PM) That has been pretty well blown out of the water too. Outside of a couple of series, there were pretty much always cheap tickets available somewhere. I think baseball generally is so unaffordable for the average Joe that it's just not an option anymore. People don't take the effort to hunt for the cheaper tickets. They've just pretty much eliminated baseball as an entertainment option. It would take several seasons of reduced prices to make a dent in that. Even if a college kid and his buddies in suburbia or a dad and his wife and kids wanted to search for deals on tickets, they still are looking at parking costs and food and drink. After years of not wanting to do that, it's just been crossed off their 'to-do' list for summertime fun. Maybe suck it up and go to one game a year, whereas many years ago, the same people might have gone to 10-30 games cause it was fun and affordable back then. If I were the Sox, I'd cut parking to 10 bucks all of next season, take a bath on that, do a heavy advertising campaign on how the Sox are making an effort to work with their fans during the depression. Instead of "appreciate the game" do a whole marketing thing on reduced parking. I think a lot of people would rather be hit in the head with a hammer than pay more than 20 bucks to park their car. Maybe that doesn't matter to the Sox, but like caufield wrote, good luck when these older rich fans die and these younger kids are the older people and have never gone to baseball games. I think baseball attendance will pretty much die in the next 20-30 years because of the economy. It won't die as a sport because of the rich TV deals.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 16, 2012 -> 03:57 PM) They spent 120 days in first place. No one had any idea in April/May/June/July/August and the first two weeks of September that this team would run out of gas during the last two weeks of September. The whole "win and people show up" myth is busted as far as I am concerned. I don't know if I'd call what the Sox did this year, "win." They floated about 8-10 over .500 and won five in a row; lost five in a row a lot. Depending on when you caught them, they were 'winning' some yeah. Also losing a lot.

That's an interesting, yet well written sentence. Did you slug the guy? I didn't understand it. Where do you get the money for all the marijuana? Just curious. It's got to cost something.

QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Oct 15, 2012 -> 06:33 PM) Suicide has been a thought, but nothing more than a silly thought...The stupid things I spoke of are going to to this guys house and beatin some ass (I obviously know where he lives because I dropped her off there everyday) or "stalking" her and making her life hell until she gave me a restraining order or I got thrown in jail. Posting here on soxtalk takes my mind off stupid thoughts like that. It sounds like I'm overblowing this and I probably am, but she ruined a lot of what was good in my life. I was a pretty popular guy and then I met her and we chilled everyday and I ditched all my friends. Pretty much right now the only friends I can go back to are my stoner friends and with me needing a job I've been layin off the trees. Thats the worst part of the whole thing...I'm over her for the most part its the loss of so many friends that f***in blows....I feel like a nobody now.... But ya actually since I posted that first comment about giving up I decided to hit up a few girls who've showed interest in me in the past and we're staying in touch now...nothins gonna happen till i get a job though. That thought about beating the guy up brought back memories. Back in high school, my friend wanted a girl badly and she was dating another guy. My friend's dad was a badass and told my buddy to go threaten the guy. So my friend told me to get in his car and we drove to the guy's house, he knocked on the door and threatened the guy. The guy was scared and said my friend could have his girl. My friend ended up with the girl. Ah, high school. QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Oct 15, 2012 -> 08:24 PM) Lol theres not much life I can live right now with no job....Having weed in my system is a legit, albeit a dumb, excuse I have right now as far as a job goes and me going out and living life. Will being a security guard pay well? Will it be hard to get a job?

QUOTE (He_Gawn @ Oct 13, 2012 -> 01:26 PM) Ahhhhh some of you guys need to sack up. The single life is the free life. You can do what you want, when you want, how you want. You can spend your own self-made money wherever you want. Get married, that goes straight down the s***ter! If you're still moping after 2-3 years, you probably should talk to someone. No broad is worth that crap. LOL. This reminds me of a Three Stooges episode, The Woman Haters Club. Single life is great, but you can still keep an open mind. If in the process of meeting women in bars or other venues, you come across one who is special, you keep an open mind about maybe marrying her. I'd say best case scenario is get a good job, date around, don't settle and when you find a really special girl get her to marry you. Preferably around the age of 28-29. Get married between 26 and 28.

QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Oct 14, 2012 -> 08:57 PM) The only time she treated me bad was when she left me, for the 3 years we were together we were perfect. She was literally perfect for me, we did everything I love to do together and now its all kinda tainted. For the past 2 years I've never been in a position to really want to pursuea lady, so my whole "I give up on relationships" will most certainly change when I finally get a job. In those 2 years I've been unemployed for all but 7 months, and those 7 months were spent at a condo building filled with gorgeous women so Id rather check them out and not have to feel guilty about them. As far as being unemployed goes, I don't want a girl while I'm unemployed, I don't wanna be a deadbeat boyfriend. But all that hasn't stopped me from thinking about her constantly. Second, I think we've all been there. You said being on soxtalk prevented you from doing something stupid to your life. I hope you weren't planning suicide. I know it sucks to break up but listen, it is true that there are tons of women out there. Some nice ones as well as hot ones. Once you get a job you will have to get out to meet them, however, or do the online dating thing. Good luck, but seriously, f*** that girl that broke up with you. She's not worthy of you. Think of it that way ... seriously. If she dumped you, she is the one not worthy. f*** her. Bye bye. Look at it this way if you had 3 years of bliss and she suddenly drops you, she could do that after you have a child or two after marriage. Just forget about her. If you can't do that, get some help. Best way to forget her is to get some new women.

Amazing how the Tigers played like dogs all season until the end when we gave it to them on a platter. Now they turn it on big time in the postseason. Yes I hope they complete the deal, then really get lazy and complacent this offseason and hopefully we'll beat them out next year.

Well this proves we could have had a magical postseason. This coulda been the White Sox. Frick.

QUOTE (SI1020 @ Oct 15, 2012 -> 12:11 AM) At the moment? Are you kidding? In 1958 the Colts and Giants had that epic overtime championship game. Between that time and the first Super Bowl (Janurary 15, 1967) football passed baseball and never looked back. It's not even close now in this country. I'm just weird, I guess, but I give pro football a chance and I watch it on TV and I see all these short passes to running backs and bullets up the middle at breakneck speed. I just find it a bore. I prefer a good high school football game No. 1, followed by college football before the NFL. I realize I'm in the vast vast minority. I just love MLB baseball except the umps' small strike zone drives me absolutely insane.

Well that's just great, Brooks. You don't want working class Mt. Greenwood families to come to your games. That's just great. The Sox are happy with the 15,000 fat cats that attend the games. Or wait, the 15,000 fat cats who have tickets and either don't go to the games or spend most of their work days trying to give away their tickets.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Oct 14, 2012 -> 06:58 PM) It's also the fifth straight day with a game and three of the previous games went to extra innings. Their $200 million lineup is not hitting, at least 3 regulars are getting booed every time they come up. I think the fanbase is just over it at the current moment. There were hundreds of tickets on StubHub available for $25 or less today. If it was just about the money, all those tickets would be scooped up in a second. Tourists who happen to be in New York are crazy to not buy those 25 buck seats.

Benet beat Marist. Benet is building a nice little football program.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Oct 12, 2012 -> 09:01 PM) Stop dancing aroundthe question. I said name a good year. I still haven't had a time to write a dissertation on the subject. But I like his performance in pretty much every season. QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Oct 12, 2012 -> 11:10 PM) Man greg... your tongue is so far up Ozzie's asshole that you can't think straight. Do me a favor and kill that post. I mean, cmon. This is a family board. Can't we be civil? QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Oct 14, 2012 -> 12:40 PM) If it looks like s***, and it smells like s***, and it's coming from Ozzie...then I'd bet $100 it's on greg's tongue too. Do mean a favor and kill that post. I mean, cmon. This is a family board. Can't we be civil? I truly mean the things I write about Ozzie, so believe it or not, there are other Ozzie supporters in the city of Chicago.

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Oct 14, 2012 -> 05:24 AM) The problem Chicago has is that the people who sympathize with the gangs (it still blows my mind that people like this exist) and the people who profit off them make up more than 50% of the cities population. So, nothing will ever get done, the cops will have to keep using kid gloves and the liberals will cherish the wonderful diversity that is literally tearing the city to pieces. It really is only going to get easier on the gangs as time goes on and we find all sorts of things to blame while overlooking the real problem: this city has been f***ed, is currently f***ed and will continue to get more f***ed because we've continued to believe that in order to unf*** it we just have to do more of the f***ed policies than got us so f***ed in the first f***ing place. Over 50 percent? Wow. Then Chicago is truly a gang town. No wonder we have all these murders. It sounds like the future of Chicago is very very bleak. Is the entire South Side going to be a cesspool in 20 years?

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 14, 2012 -> 05:38 PM) The Yankees not selling out postseason games and the Sox attendance problems have a lot in common. Both teams have old cores that their fans have tired of. In other words, it's time to find good young players. BTW, the Jets game against the Texans Monday night had higher ratings than the Yankees/O's playoff game locally. Maybe New Yorkers hate the Yankees, but I'd think people would want to go to ALCS games in the Big Apple. To have that many empty seats, row after row of empty seats, to me is all about money.

You simply can't fix the Sox attendance problems. Baseball doesn't want to fix them. Yankees can't even sell out for first game of ALCS. WOWWWWW http://sports.yahoo.com/news/no-show--yank...oving-fans.html Face facts: Baseball is not a sport meant to have these kind of ticket prices. There are too many f***ing games. It is simply not worth the experience to pay this kind of money to go to a damn baseball game and pay 8 dollars for a pop and 10 dollars for a Miller Lite. I repeat the Yankees had 6000 or more empty seats tonight. In a city that large. Shouldn't that tell you something, baseball owners?? You tried to gouge the fans of New York for ridiculously priced playoff tickets and they said, "f*** you. We'll watch it on TV." PEOPLE CANNOT AFFORD TO GO TO THE GAMES. Guess what owners? You don't need to sign Pujols for 100,000 billion dollars a year if it means you have to raise ticket prices a ton to pay for him. You don't have to pay Zach Greinke 900,000 billion this offseason if you have to raise parking another 10 bucks a car to pay for him. Guess what owners? The Angels didn't even make the expanded playoffs!!!!! Jerry keep raising those parking prices. What a f***ing joke. p.s. and yes I've read some of your posts about how the Sox would rather have 25,000 at these ridiculously high prices than 40,000 at lower prices. Good for them. They and all other teams have helped ruin a great game. Get used to playoff games and World Series not being sold out. We're at that point if New York can't sell out a playoff game. Tell me I'm wrong.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Oct 11, 2012 -> 03:35 AM) Frankly I thought he did well all the way through his tenure. There never were any complaints about the Sox's on-field performance under Ozzie. He was never on the hot seat until the end when he talked a bit too much. The performance remained fine. It was the other stuff.

QUOTE (My_Sox_Summer @ Oct 12, 2012 -> 04:27 PM) I was hoping to see the market for the playoff tickets. I don't think the demand was going to be that great to be honest. I never thought about this but after drawing so few fans during the season with a team nobody really believed in, I wonder if Sox would have sold out any early playoff games. Certainly if the Sox made the championship series, those would have been sold out but before that? Maybe not. Nobody has any money. If this goes on another year or two, I'd suspect habit will kick in and the Sox fan base will be very, very tiny. If enough seasons pass where the average fan just says the hell with it, it costs too much to go to a game, that can shrink a fan base for decades to come.

QUOTE (Tuna @ Oct 8, 2012 -> 05:42 PM) Other questions: Is it a myth that the Cell is a bad neighborhood? IMO it's the surrounding areas, I don't view bridgeport as a bad neighborhood (east of Halsted anyway). I actually lived on 33rd and Parnell and went to St Lucy school. Back when I lived there, racism was more of an issue than gangs. I'm the same age and was friends with a couple of the guys that were responsible for the Leonard Clark beating. I thought it was stupid then and I hold the same opinion now. do gangs hang on on the periphery of the park to rob people? That's more of an individual thing if it happens. I've personally never been robbed by the park and have never met anyone that's been robbed by the park (except ticket prices) so I cant speak too much to that. What about the United Center? If you are white and walk around that neighborhood are you cooked? I believe that to be true for the entire west side including the area around the United Center. If you are in a gang do you have to beat people and rob people to prove you are not a p****? Beat, yes. Rob, no. If somebody in your gang is fighting and losing, you better jump in or the gang will beat your ass for not doing anything. If someone is disrespectful or challenges you then you have to fight, even if you don't think you can win. Let's say a 12-year-old saw the gang and yelled cuss words at you all. Would you beat him or is 12 too young and you guys would just laugh? Unfortunately, that 12 year old would get beat. Have you ever witnessed a murder or severe beating? Yes Let's say you were still in a gang and I was walking down the wrong street and you guys were going to beat/rob me. Let's say I knew you personally and before I got beat I said, 'Hey Tuna, stand up for me.' Would the gang then leave me alone? This is a tricky question. If I was there and we were friends, you wouldn't need to speak at all as I would just tell them you were my guy and nobody would question it. If I wasn't there and you told them, "hey I'm friends with Tuna" they would leave you alone and you could continue to walk without any problems. Finally, in your new life, do people get scared when they see your tattoo or you tell your neighbors you served time in the slammer? Do you cause fear in them or do they give you a chance? Honestly, this is the most I've talked about it since I've been away. I'm not proud of my past, but at the same time I'm not ashamed. I did what I did. I feel like I'm a better husband because I know how dedicated my wife is to me and I know what it's like to not be with her every night. I'm a better father because I know what it's like to be powerless over helping to shape my kids futures. Not to mention, it's very difficult for my kids to get away with lies considering that I've told them all at some point in my life. I find that people have been very accepting of me. also ... Why did you go to jail? Juvi: UUW (unlawful use of a weapon) - I brought a gun to school. sentence: probation -Attempted Murder -sentence: 30 months juvi DOC The first time as a adult I got 6 years for the following: -Possession of a firearm -Obstruction of Justice - Gave a fake name to police -Theft 10k-100k - I was involved in a robbery of a currency exchange, they dropped the charges to theft in the cop out Parole Violation: -Failed drug test The second time I got 5 years for: Possession/attempt to sell stolen motor vehicle - 3 counts - I ran a chop shop What is life like in jail? Is jail boring? Do you have TV in jail? Quite honestly, life wasn't that bad. Time goes by really quick. I was in Western (Mt Sterling), Sheridan, Shawnee. I was processed in Joliet the first time, then in Statesville for the parole violation and second sentence. I was fortunate enough to have people send me money so I rarely ate the prison food. I cooked in my cell, had a hot pot for coffee, had a radio, TV (with cable), battery powered shaver, jogging pants, tshirts/sweatshirts. Ramen noodles were typically used for the base of every meal. You could add chili and summer sausage, jalapenos, cheese etc...you could buy pop, chips, little debbie, etc...We made tattoo guns out of walkmans and passed time that way. I played a lot of poker and spades for money (money was considered items bought from the store). It wasn't that horrible of an experience. Around 2001-2002 the prisons did start to get more strict, but it still wasn't that bad. Were you ever beaten? I got into a few fights, I didn't win them all, but I wouldn't say that I took a "beating". More like roughed up a little bit. Did anybody ever try to rape you? No. In the 80's and early/mid 90's prisons were a lot tougher than they are now (ie Richard Speck leaked video). I imagine that still goes on somewhat in the maximum security prisons, but I didn't spend a significant amount of time there so I can't speak on it. Was it the greatest moment of your life when you got out of jail? Can't even put it into words Do employers hold your jail experience against you in trying to get a job? The application didn't ask if I was ever convicted of a crime. In the interview I kept my hand out of sight. I got the job, showed great work ethic and never complained about hours or tasks. I was promoted several times and I am now the GM of the company (only person above me is the owner). I staff and oversee a couple stores, route all deliveries, inventory control, hire/fire, A/R, manage all aspects of Penske truck rental done out of one of our locations, etc... My employer asked what the tattoo's meant on my hand, I gave him a smile and said, "product of a misspent youth" and we left it at that. If I told him about my past he probably wouldn't believe me, I've changed that much in my day to day life. What is your profession? I work for a rental company. We set up tents for weddings, festivals, etc... Thanks tuna. This stuff is so interesting. No problem, buddy. You guys keep me up to date and entertained with White Sox news/rumors/opinions every day, it's the least I could do. Tuna, I just went back in the thread to see if you answered my questions. Thank you very much. I don't know why, I'm in an emotional mood this week since my buddy's wife was deemed cancer free after 6 months of chemo, but I teared up reading your responses when you said the best feeling was the day you got out of jail. You just seem like a good person and even though I don't know you I'm glad you turned your life around. This is ironic because from what you wrote, in a different time and place you'd have beaten the hell out of me if I wandered in the way of your gang. Thanks for your answers. It's very educational for me. I've always wanted to volunteer in Leavenworth prison in some capacity but have always been afraid to do so. Do you think it's worth being a volunteer in some capacity or do you think it's all fake for the prisoners and they don't really want Bible study/and or English classes, etc? Thanks Tuna. You are da man.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Oct 10, 2012 -> 06:52 PM) Oh the irony You mean Ozzie? Ozzie doesn't care bout a little message board so I got to fight his battle for him.