LittleHurtCG

The tank years were terrible. Watching guys like Jon Jay, Yonder Alonso, Wellington Castillo, Daniel Palka, Nicky Delmonico, Ryan Cordell, Charlie Tilson. I could go on and on with the list, but I think I'll stop there. 2020 was weird. The Sox only played within their own division and got exposed by a bad Oakland team big time. The first tank job was an epic failure. Why in the world would you want to sit through that again?

Never should have traded away Burger. Sox fans are stuck with this epic bust for another year unfortunately. Wish we could go back and redo the Chris Sale trade. Traded the best Sox pitcher of my lifetime for a dude who pounds a box of twinkies a day and spends more time making crappy music videos than he does on his game.

The first option also resulted in years of tanking and completely unwatchable baseball. 2006 through 2016 wasn't much fun either but at least there was a few seasons where the Sox made the playoffs and/or were still playing meaningful baseball in September. 2005 was also a sort of rebuild on the fly season and the Sox were longshots to win the World Series that year. Tanking will never ever work as long as JR is the owner and RH is the GM. Catching lightining in a bottle is the only way for them to have any chance for now.

The Sox just did a total teardown and tank job. They have jack s%*# to show for it except two first round exits in the playoffs. Another teardown is a foll's errand as long as JR is the owner and the front office remains the same. The Sox do not have the brains nor the infrastructure to successfully tank and rebuild. The only way forward is going back to the 2006 through 2016 model. Load up on cheap veteran contracts and trade away some young bucks in the minors and hope for the best. There is no other way.

He's the richest guy in the ballpark so he feels like he can do whatever the hell he wants.

Good lord are we really sitting around discussing the policies around the White Sox daycare? Anyone have the scoop on how often they disenfect the toys or if they have organic low sugar juice box options? Good lord Hahn and company need to be fired yesterday. I want to talk about exciting White Sox baseball again before I'm in a wheelchair at a retirement home.

So it sounds like this kid is going to need a sound recovery plan from TJ as well as a good amount of development time and coaching to succeed in the bigs ( if he even makes it). The Sox have no idea what they are doing in either of those areas. Even though this trade was only made a few weeks ago, I'm gonna call it a massive failure. The Sox gave up a guy in Burger who is a positive WAR player and gonna jack 30 plus homers this year. Rick Hahn strikes again unfortuntaely.

Is this lefy kid that we traded Burger for any good? Looks like he got lit up in his first start at AA. Are the Sox penciling him in for the 2024 rotation or he is still a few years away?

No doubt injuries have played a part. TA seems to get hurt every year lately though. Made up argument? Look at this thread any other about TA this year. There is plenty of chatter about his off field drama negatively impacting his play.

It's been a rough week for the TA fanboys. The fact that TA is sleeping around isn't a big deal. It becomes something though when his supporters are citing off the field issue for his terrible play. Seems a bit convenient.

Cubs are going to make the playoffs this year and be a wrecking ball again soon enough.

Nice! The only rankings that matter when you are a White Sox fan unfortunately.

Our boy wonder has done a bang up job kicking off tank job 3.0! Cease will likely get traded this time next year and Robert a year after that. Hahn will deliver the parade this time for sure!

Have either of these dudes had tommy john yet?

Seems about right. Give the guy plenty of playing time this year and next.

Yep. I'm sure they are all heading out to a nice steak dinner tonight to celebrate another job well done.

Dude is 25. Time to play him every day this year and see what you got. He can always move to first base or right field if he can't stick at catcher.

Hell Yeah. Hahn is straight crushing it this week. Why does he have so many haters around here??

It sure is. The whole bum squad is getting cleared out. Trade every single guy not named Cease and Robert and let's stockpile top 3 draft picks the next half deacde like the Astros did baby!

Any major victory for Rick Hahn and the front office! Dude has been crushing it this week. Now let's trade Cease and Robert and really stock the farm. If we can't compete in the actual standings then we might as well win the prospect ranking game!

That sure would be something. Maybe they are making arrangements for the Dodgers to pick up the tab for working being done at Camelback in lieu of any prospects.

I understand that. The timing of some of the stuff that is leaking out seems a bit convienent and suspicious to me. Also, Jerry isn't going to do any press interviews and take questions so that is why Hahn is being brought up.

Why is all this stuff about Hahn wanting to spend 9 figures players leaking now? Where were these questions or commentary 3 or 4 years ago when Hahn was enacting his friends and family plan instead of just paying market rate for Machado? Is Chicago Sports media really so soft now? It seems like nothing but softball questions these days. Is the fear that the Sox will pull access if any probing or difficult questions are asked?

Yeah. Sox fans are more "lucky" than Astros fans that is for sure. Comedic gold. Some real gems in this thread. Rick Hahn was on a pedestal around here back then. Boy wonder was golden in the eyes of many.

I don't have inside access to how much the Sox are spending on player development and analytics. It sure seems like they are getting a poor ROI if they are laying down serious money. I do know that JR is a meddling owner and a bad one. I do know that Hahn is an incompentent GM. I don't know much, but I do know those things. ?