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Hyperbole is assuming that when someone says another team may have offered more than the Braves for Bummer, that immediately means it was two of the Orioles top prospects. No one ever said that, but it wouldn’t take much to beat an offer that included the Braves two DFA candidates in Soroka and Lopez, a mediocre longman with crappy stuff in Shuster, along with Gowens and the recently DFA Shewmake. I don’t care about last year and acquiring bums like Soroka and Lopez. Everyone knew it was a lost year and those guys sucked. So yes, it is possible that two prospects from another team could be worth more than Shuster and Gowens right now, and they don’t have to be two of Kjerstad, Mayo, and Basallo. I know I’d rather have the Twins #3 prospect right now over Vargas but I’m sure you’ll defend that trade to your dying breath as well.

We don’t know what the other offers were. Getz thought he was getting back two rotation arms in Soroka and Shuster and a starting 2B in Lopez. He was trying to fill out a rotation and lineup with cheap fliers [junk]. Perhaps another team was offering a couple prospects better than that 5 player “haul” that Getz got back.

Do Shuster and Gilbert also strikeout 11 per 9 innings like Bummer?

Shuster is pretty much smoke and mirrors. His stuff is trash and he walks far too many guys. He was lucky to have an ERA under 5 last season.

But Bummer didn’t take a haircut. Team options aren’t guaranteed money. Like I said, did either Eloy or Moncada get theirs? Robert won’t get his either if he keeps sucking like Eloy and Moncada. Meanwhile, if Bummer was as bad as you and @PaleAleSox are saying, the Braves could have paid him $1.25 to go away. Instead, they gave him $13 million guaranteed.

It would have been interesting to see if guys like Booser and Gilbert would have been cut outright eventually and become free agents with no other teams having interest, had Getz not jumped to give up a player for them.

Bummer received a new contract which guaranteed him $13 million over the next two years. His previous Sox contract was two non-guaranteed $7.25 and $7.5 million team options for 2025 and 2026 respectively, each with $1.25 million buyouts. All Bummer was guaranteed after being a “corpse” last season was a $1.25 million buyout. Instead, he got $13 million guaranteed. Guaranteed money trumps team options with buyouts. I’d say Bummer did pretty well for being a “corpse” last season. As I said, club options with buyouts aren’t guaranteed money. Moncada and Eloy can attest to this. Neither is incentive-based money. Unless you are Kenny Williams and truly think the Sox offered Machado the best contract.

He was so bad that the Braves, an annual contender, chose to extend him.

You could make a list of bad Getz acquisitions from last offseason that were cut before their contract and/or player control was up.

I thought only Greg cared about losing 120 games instead of just 110. Who the f*** cares? It’s massive failure either way you slice it.

One would think the dumpster would be empty by now but Getz keeps managing to pillage from it…

Isn’t it interesting that Getz had to DFA one of his trade acquisitions from last year to make room for this guy? My guess is that Gilbert will go the same way as Shewmake within the next year.

Banks had some history of success in three straight seasons with the Sox before he was traded. Gilbert hasn’t been good since his rookie season in 2021.

Hope this choice by Barfield works out better than his last one…

He’s 25 years old now and he has put up a .586 OPS in 591 plate appearances. Not a huge sample size but the equivalent of a full year in the majors. He also blows with the glove at whatever position he is thrown at, so that will further keep his WAR/value down.

Correction noted. The White Sox are literally the old western trading post / whore house saloon for both LA and Boston.

Imagine questioning or trying to downplay the Dodgers on anything, while being a Sox fan. 🤣

He’s a fourth outfielder that can’t hit. Who cares?

The Dodgers bench players would be starters for the Sox and their front office also knew which of their garbage prospects/players they should deal to our back-to-back terrible talent-assessing GMs. But that’s probably like taking candy from a baby anyways.

In this very post, you argued that my post was baseless and then listed three names off the top of your head that were called up earlier than necessary. Starting clocks during one of the historically worst seasons in baseball made zero sense.

This is Getz we are talking about. Captain of the early call up.

“The Athletic’s Katie Woo and Will Sammon report the Orioles have interest in a reunion with Jack Flaherty. Baltimore has an obvious need for a frontline starter after former ace Corbin Burnes bolted for Arizona last week. Flaherty, who spent the final few months of the 2023 season with the Orioles following a trade from the Cardinals, is the top starter left on the open market by a considerable margin. The 29-year-old faded down the home stretch last year with the Dodgers, but was outstanding with the Tigers at the outset of the year. He makes a ton of sense for the Orioles, who have yet to make a big splash in free agency with the exception of brining in veteran Japanese righty Tomoyuki Sugano. We’ll see if general manager Mike Elias is ready to finally make a big move.”

And Getz apparently likes players like Fletcher and Vargas. Already on the road to Soxcess.