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Dude was the very definition of a homer. Only Orioles prospects ever pan out 100% of the time. Meanwhile, Cease, Crochet, etc. we’re just mediocre pitchers unworthy of trading top prospects for. Over time, we all learn that prospects are great and exciting but you never know when or if they will pan out. I would venture to guess that the majority of time, the team acquiring the established player wins the trade.

It does sound weird, but that is the story at least… “SOURCE: Orioles GM Unwilling to Spend Despite Green Light From Owner Orioles GM Mike Elias unwilling to spend in free agency, source says.“

Even our old Orioles friends are starting to question their GM at their Orioles Hangout. I still think he lands someone eventually. I have a hard time believing that everyone but Elias knows what the Orioles need most.

I wish Getz would have waited to see what Hays’ market looks like. If he ends up signing for $5 million or so, that will be disappointing. Forget the Slater/Tauchman platoon for $3.7 million. Hays as a full-time starter for a bit more money could have been a nice flip candidate with a good first half. Slater/Tauchman more than likely won’t net any return at the deadline.

I still don’t get what Elias is doing. Sugano is just a cheap flier. He could be great or he could be a bust. But even signing a guy like Quintana would be a big improvement to the Orioles rotation and they could surely afford him. This tells me Elias will wind up landing some decent top half of the rotation starter eventually.

It was just a joke. I like your posts. I just can’t get behind trying to level the playing field in baseball just because owners like Jerry are cheap. The Sox, A’s, Pirates, etc. can all spend more money, but they choose not to. They can’t spend like the Dodgers but they could all spend much more than they do. If we were all Dodgers fans, we would be laughing at these pathetic teams, and rightfully so.

We are talking about the White Sox, an utterly cheap team that enters most seasons without even having a fifth starter. Remember when the Sox signed Cueto a week or so after the season had already started? Haha… Just like Flexen was signed for peanuts to be the Sox #4/#5 starter, Soroka was acquired to be their #2/#3 starter. Getz had it all planned out in his head when he acquired both bums. https://www.mlb.com/news/white-sox-2024-opening-day-roster

Why are you worried about Jerry’s money, especially this season? The payroll is around $60 million. He should be approving anything that brings in more talent. Also, half of the pitchers you mentioned will bust just like @southsider2k5 always says.

Soroka was acquired to be one of the top starters in the Sox rotation, project or not. That was pretty obvious from the beginning. He started the second game of the season. Other than developing your own players, flipping players should be pretty much the main goal of one-year/short-term acquisitions such as these when you know your team is going to be horrible. The problem is, most of the players Getz acquired sucked. I think it’s possible to “buy a prospect” but like you said, you aren’t getting a top prospect for eating a bad contract. But it’s not a strategy Jerry would ever approve so it’s likely not worth discussing.

Most people were more upset about the Bummer trade meaning that Nicky Lopez was immediately our starting 2B making $4.3 million, considering he sucks. Also, Soroka was acquired to be one of the top starters in the Sox rotation, where he sucked horribly. He actually started the second game of the season after Crochet. He only had the chance to excel as a reliever because he failed so miserably in Getz’s initially intended role. In the end, none of it mattered because Getz couldn’t trade either player for anything at the deadline.

It will likely be a bad signing after year one but it’s a drop in the bucket to them. Just like the Edman signing.

Stop licking @Chicago White Sox’s tears.

$195K versus $181K. I’m sure Jerry could’ve afforded $14K more. The problem is that Jerry sucked at everything else, as in hiring his own organization.

Okay — don’t sign the wrong guy next time. I remember the Benintendi thread back then and numerous posters were questioning Hahn signing such a mediocre player to such a large deal.

The Rangers winning a WS 2 years ago is enough to support the parity you are pretending doesn’t exist. You made a dig about people with “zero business acumen” having opinions about the very situation you are crying about. Meanwhile, you are the same poster that claimed to move from Chicago to Nashville due to the Sox sucking, not due to a new higher paying job, or property taxes, etc. So who has the poor business acumen? Honestly, I can work anywhere in the US due to my company's full-time WFH/remote work policy, but I surely wouldn’t consider moving from Chicago due to the Sox. And yes, I could save a ton of money moving away from this city. But I’m not going to let a crappy owner like Jerry dictate where I live.

Not a hissy fit at all. See my previous post. My previous post proves that you are wrong. It isn’t necessary to be a top 5 spender like the Dodgers to win a WS. That covers many more owners and teams than just Jerry and the Sox.

So what is your ridiculous whiny point? Until the Dodgers win the WS every fucking year, the highest payroll isn’t the end all be all like you are making it out to be. The Texas Rangers won the WS in 2023. Their opening day payroll was 9th overall that year at $195 million. The Sox opening day payroll that year was $181 million. It IS fucking possible to win a WS without spending like the Dodgers. Maybe you should move to Nashville again if you have “zero business acumen”?

Does he have enough money to maintain a payroll much higher than the current $60 million dollar payroll? Yes, let’s stop playing stupid here…

Moving the goal posts? Wow. So if the Sox make the playoffs via winning their division or WC, it is impossible for them to win a WS? How did 2005 happen? Yes, it was fluky. But last I checked, the Dodgers or the other top 5 high ass payroll teams don’t win the WS every year. Are you re-writing history?

Zero business acumen? I think you are making too many assumptions about posters you don’t know personally. I never said the Sox could do what the Dodgers are doing. I did however say they could spend enough money to try to win their own division or a WC. And from there, who knows? Like I said, the Dodgers whom you continue crying about have not won 10 straight WS rings. Jerry enjoys coming in second place. He has said so himself. It makes the fans want to come back and spend more the next season. He is not an owner that truly wants to “JUST WIN, BABY”, to quote greg. That is why Jerry needs to be in this conversation. Period.

They can try to win their division, or even a WC, and then see what happens. Last I checked, the Dodgers haven’t won 10 straight WS.

So there, you just called out the true problem. The Dodgers almost always spend the most but they don’t win the WS every year, do they? Meanwhile, Jerry doesn’t even try to win his own division the majority of the time.

Was hoping this was you, but he’s got a much weaker beard. I hope whomever was looking for a record-setting Sox shirt for Christmas a few weeks back saw this one. All facts. Period.

You should be right, but the Reds are cheap like Jerry. Our only hope is the Astros, and that’s only if they have given up on Jacob Melton.

I honestly had never heard of the Bananas before. I just watched a bunch of videos of them on YouTube and I think @nrockway is pretty spot on. I would go to a game, but just like Medieval Times, it would get old quickly and once would be enough. Seems like they are very obviously marketing to a specific segment of people — men and women that like to watch young athletic guys dance and sing, along with bringing their children that will enjoy the spectacle over “slow, long, and boring” MLB baseball. There’s nothing wrong with that, but let’s call a spade a spade… The trick plays are cool. Other than that, I could see it getting old like everything else — Harlem Globetrotters, Medieval Times, etc.