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I can still totally see the Reds refusing to meet the White Sox demands as far as prospects and the inclusion of cash (or lack thereof) goes. Yes, adding Robert could make the Reds a much better team but it’s not like they can’t currently field a starting outfield — TJ Friedl in CF with Austin Hays and Jake Fraley in the corners.

Any trade that doesn’t happen is obviously never a “done deal” but why do you refuse to believe that there is any truth to this specific trade offer when a Twins beat reporter reported it and there were also other media reports saying that the Sox refused to deal Fedde within their own division? Do you also believe there is no truth to the Phillies offering Alec Bohm and Justin Crawford for Crochet, or is that a “real” trade rumor because the Sox got back more from the Red Sox? I am guessing if the rumored Twins offer for Fedde was far worse of a return than Vargas, you would be using it as a defense of the Vargas trade.

Unlimited money? All of the Twins’ 5 top prospects? Once again, your hyperbole knows no bounds. Even had the White Sox agreed to pick up the full amount of Fedde’s remaining contract for the rest of 2024 and all of 2025 at the trade deadline, it would have cost the Sox $10 million. And it’s doubtful that the Twins were asking the Sox to pick up the full amount of Fedde’s remaining contract, considering Fedde’s value based on both his performance and cheap contract. Once again, the rumored trade mentioned one guy — Luke Keaschall — not all five of the Twins’ top 5 prospects. At the time Getz stupidly traded Fedde for Vargas instead, Keaschall was the Twins #5 prospect. He is now their #3 prospect and ranked the #61 prospect in MLB’s top 100. I have no idea why you continue to act like this rumored trade is completely ridiculous considering it was reported by a Twins beat reporter. It’s not like Keaschall was one of the Twins’ top 3 prospects at the time and considered untouchable. You are clowning this rumored trade offer and claiming it is baseless because you don’t want it to be true, in your never-ending super-human efforts to defend and excuse Getz’s actions.

That’s definitely the pessimistic view, but it’s well-earned when it comes to Robert. I see no way the Sox have that kind of risk appetite with Robert after what they have already see with his injury-prone buddies in Moncada and Eloy. They traded Cease after a “down” season rather have roll the dice, so I see no way they will take a chance entering the season with Robert. In true cheap ass Jerry fashion, the Sox will end up accepting a lesser return while eating little or no money for Robert. And the usual suspect posters will try to defend the move.

Yep, cuz you know if Robert has another mediocre-to-bad season, Jerry isn’t going to approve Robert’s $20 million dollar team option. No way, no how. He’s getting his $2 million dollar payout.

Actually, he’s a #2, as in dung.

Yep, and MLB has him at #92 on there top 100 list. Arroyo’s value is down because he missed the entire 2024 season after having surgery to repair a torn labrum in his left shoulder. So realistically, the Sox would need to get back another good prospect along with Arroyo to trade Robert (and eat some of his money — haha!).

Sure, their two top pitching prospects, but they won’t be trading either for Robert. And the Sox need a position prospect headliner anyways. But I assume that is what you are getting at.

And keep in mind, Wittenmeyer covered the Cubs beat for years here in Chicago for both the Sun Times and NBC Sports Chicago, so he should be very aware of Jerry’s cheapness. What a clown.

Yeah, I just listened to the podcast and now I think Wittenmeyer is a dope. He mentioned how the Sox could pay Robert’s entire contract — well, sure they could Gordon, but look at who the owner is. Not.gonna.happen. Also, Wittenmeyer said that this would only be a one-year proposition for the Reds to acquire Robert so they aren’t going to want to pay too much. Huh? Does he not know about Robert’s team options for 2026 and 2027? This report lost all value once you realize Wittenmeyer is clueless.

Agreed. Do it. The cash included may counter Robert’s loss of value for being so bad last season. Pay up for the better prospects you want, especially considering two things — he’s your last good trade piece and god knows the Getz has cut the payroll so much ($67 million?) they have some money to burn.

Good point. Why would they sign a legit manager to a 3-year deal with a 4th year option if they aren’t “going for it”?

I heard he’s also in the best shape of his life.

Eliminated before the season even started. Sure makes you want to spend your hard-earned dollar on Jerry’s product, don’t it? 🤣

He needs to start showing some semblance of power though. Still very young though.

Berroa will walk the world. Good luck with that bullpen arm. It won’t be pretty.

Getz paid him $4.3 million guaranteed. The Cubs get him for a non-guaranteed $1.5 million.

That Santos trade is looking like hot garbage right now. But perhaps this move indicates they will keep Montgomery down for a bit, which is good.

It’s a running theme with both of Jerry’s teams so it shouldn’t be a surprise.

And it doesn’t match up with his perpetual “Cubs fan troll” attacks on anyone that doesn’t support the Sox.

Reinsdorf is an abomination in two sports. What an owner.

Let’s look at this a different way. Perhaps you are one of the reasons the Sox suck and never spend money. You support this garbage team and owner. Jerry knows you will spend money on his garbage product regardless so he never has to spend money on the team. Enjoy watching games this year for a $67 million dollar payroll team.

We have a GM who got a mediocre return for Cease and chose to trade for Fletcher over McCarthy. Getz choosing Vargas over Keaschall wouldn’t be surprising at all. At least it looks like he may have nailed the Crochet trade.

😶 https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2794480-re-ranking-all-30-mlb-farm-systems-at-the-end-of-2018-milb-season.amp.html

More like “yet another awful player that Getz once acquired.”