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St. Ignatius @ Brother Rice on Marquee Network right now. Mount Carmel @ Loyola on WCIU (26.1 OTA in Chicago area) right now.

Serious question — who is the last coach in the organization that has come back to haunt the Sox? Francona? And I think he left the Sox organization in 1995.

You never know… Perhaps Getz will give Clevinger his fourth shot at it next season with a ST invite? Who knows what goes on during Clevinger’s drug-fueled parties with his best bro Ben Pogofsky?

Yep, the only proof you need to know that Jerry is a businessman first and a fan second. He neutered a very good shot at a World Series over money.

How about wasting numerous years of Frank, Ventura, Magglio, Lee, Konerko, Durham, and Valentin? Wasting two superstars is brutal but so is wasting almost an entire starting lineup of stars or above average power hitters over the years.

It’s pretty easy to have very few failed big signings when you barely make any big signings to begin with and are the owner of one of only two teams left in the MLB that hasn’t given out a $100 million dollar contract. By cheapskate Jerry’s spending scale, the Sox have done horribly on most of their biggest signings anyways — see Danks, Dunn, Grandal, Keuchel, Benintendi.

Or be six feet under before any signs of improvement.

Yep, they both suck. Congrats to us.

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I can agree with most of this and that Jerry has spent in the past when the team was in competition. However, he is now on the precipice of selling the team. I don’t see him allowing Getz to spend any significant money within the next 3 seasons until he sells to Ishbia. So while I am no fan of Getz, I will admit he is pretty screwed over by Jerry when it comes to free agency.

Sorry, I didn’t catch that. I don’t agree. They will be better. I still think .500 may be a stretch though. 70 wins sounds about right. And I agree with your second paragraph as well. But I just don’t see Jerry letting Getz spend enough money in any offseason to fill the team’s holes until he ultimately sells the team.

It’s not spite. It’s history. The major league team’s record matters. It’s very possible that Getz doesn’t have a season over .500 or even sniffs the playoffs within the next 3 years before Ishbia can take over at the earliest. I don’t think that’s a crazy statement. Like I said, even if you think Getz is a good GM, his owner isn’t going to let him spend the money required to get his team to the next level.

That is good, but still not enough. And even if you think Getz is a good GM, can evaluate the free agent market properly, and sign the right players, he is neutered by an owner that simply won’t let him spend the money required to fill the holes on the team.

He’s been on the decline for awhile now. Also, his agent is Boras so he probably still thinks he’s worth more than he is. I don’t see the Sox even being interested.

For sure. If his walk rate wasn’t so high, he would be untouchable and likely already in the majors. But yeah, teams would be willing to take a chance on an arm like that.

Even without a potential lockout looming, I still don’t understand how some people think Jerry has any motivation to spend money on the roster until he ultimately sells in 2029 at the earliest. The Sox are losing money because they stink and no one wants to pay to go watch them play. Meanwhile, the Sox don’t have a good enough farm system to improve without also spending money. The team will be “mired in mediocrity” until Ishbia takes over, cleans house of Getz, Barfield, and company, gets a legit FO in here, and spends some money. Hopefully that happens in 2029 and we don’t have to wait much longer.

Good stuff. Thanks for sharing. Jeebus, McGarry’s strikeout numbers are insane. Too bad his walk rate is so high as well.

Is this what you are looking for? https://www.mlb.com/whitesox/roster/40-man A Rule 5 watch would be interesting though.

Well, apparently he’s winning 82 games next season so that grade is jumping to an A+ soon.

They should. But are you betting money that Jerry will spend any money to do so?

Brother Rice just owned St. Lawrence. St. Ignatius is their last opponent before the playoffs. Fenwick hung with Mount Carmel and had a chance of beating them. Unfortunately, they lost right at the end.

Agreed. 2005 was the one thing this team and owner got right. I have every DVD about the 2005 team. They are actually pretty cheap now if anyone wants to buy them now.

No thanks. It’s more fun watching you try to convince everyone that Getz is good at his job. How many more losing seasons will the Sox incur before you admit you were wrong? 3+ is probably a good bet.

Yeah, you just went full on homer. I’m not a Sox fan, and am instead a Marlins fan, because I think Getz and Jerry suck at their respective jobs. Thanks for proving my point about you.