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QUOTE(Cali @ Jun 6, 2005 -> 10:07 PM) Nope. I hate Orange County..... That and I had no money. I'll shoot ya a PM on Thursday about the beach thing. Still trying to figure it out.

I really like Robinson and I think that pick would make a lot of sense.

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Jun 6, 2005 -> 09:36 PM) FS? FutureSox.com...its been down for about 10 days now and I had this popup on my computer and am now talking live with a person working on getting the site back online. It was the most random popup, but somehow I was on live tech support with them and didn't know it

Badass...Bull on the mend and FS may be back on the same day (*crosses fingers*) Kick some ass Bull

Man Gload keeps raking. He needs to be here and Timo needs to be in Charlotte. Too bad its gonna be Willie in Charlotte Oh snap...just got in contact with someone in regards to FS. I don't nkow how the hell it happened but I'm pumped.

QUOTE(Palehosefan @ Jun 6, 2005 -> 09:23 PM) I've been believing that also Jason that the Sox could take a chance on a 1st-2nd round talent that fell through in the 3rd. But then its a huge gamble, as we could end up without a 2nd and 3rd round pick if they decide not to sign. I would almost rather go after a great talent that falls way through the rounds and throw 800K at them like the Angels and Red Sox did with guys in last years draft while drafting a good talent that is signable in the early rounds. Ya, I really liked the Angels plan. It looks like they had an awesome draft, especially if Ardenhart gets healthy and pitches like he could (he was UNC bounc IIRC, so I'm sure that bummed you out). On a sidenote, as a UNC fan I'm guessing you've seen Devine pitch a few times (NCSU) and was gonna see if you thought he was worthy of going at 15? I know he's got a dynomite fastball and its a name that I haven't seen mentioned yet on the board (in terms of the Sox at least). Of course Its not like the Sox to pay over slot money and they are giving guys like Timo and Davis a million bucks a piece to lounger around and stink. Plus if Kenny is given the choice you know damn well he'd rather spend an extra 2 mill on improvements to the current club than the draft (I can't say I'd blame him and If I recall I remember interviews saying this type of stuff was non-related with the Sox and JR has always done a nice job with the draft and making sure money was available). It could also be a recoup from last year where they spent a hefty amount.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Jun 6, 2005 -> 09:19 PM) I'd be in heaven if he went to the Sox. Guess what team has shown the most interest in him? Well, it's a tie... Cleveland and Minnesota. So is this your lovechild or something Or did you just donate sperm back in your college days

QUOTE(Palehosefan @ Jun 6, 2005 -> 09:16 PM) I like his age, his size, and his left handed all around style. Might be someone we could pick up in the 3rd-4th round as we need some power injected into the system, especially at 1B. Ya, could be a definate fit for the Sox. Of course the Sox may grab a guy in the 3rd and 4th rounds that will be a tougher sign (ie a guy thats slid a bit due to signability). I think you may see them offering a 2nd or 3rd rounder higher than slot money this year (we shall see though). If he's there in the 5th I think they consider it. He seems quite raw but the tools are there.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Jun 6, 2005 -> 08:29 PM) You don't need total superstars. That's a huge misconception. The Bulls would be perfect for the triangle if they have Eddy coming back. It'll create perfect space between everybody and allow for easy buckets for everyone. We have guys who could knock down the shots as well. I'm convinced some people don't know a thing about the triangle offense. God no, it would be awful. This team would be horrid in the triangle, horrid.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jun 6, 2005 -> 08:54 PM) Yeah, Carrillo looks real impressive on the scouting tapes. Broadway shows a real nice breaking pitch in his videos. Townsend has a real, real good breaking ball in his, too -- decent fastball. Torra didn't look that great, but the highest he hit on the gun was like 90 -- so, I'm guessing it was just a bad day at the ballpark or something. That gun may be the type that is a little lower. There are two types of guns (I forget how they both work and I don't really remember much its been a long time and for all I know this isn't the case anymore) but one gun would always read higher than the other. Townsend velocity was a little lower than Torra's. Torra was more consistent, imo. Townsend did have a nice sharp slider, but aside from that really looked mediocre. Didn't look near as crisp as Carillo (who I actually think has uspide, more so than Townsend and I was big on Townsend earlier) and than there is Bogu who I flat out like a lot.

A little more info on him is that he's the top rated Canadian player and is slotted by BA to go anywhere from the 2nd to 5th round. Of course Visa problems have been an issue in where the Canadian players end up being drafted. I remember reading therer were a few more visa's available this year due to a new temp program thats around. He's a power prospect and isn't going to be able to play anywhere but 1st (he should grow into an average 1st baseman). Personally I think Jeff Larish will be his competition. A collegiate 1st baseman who has tons of power already and is slated to go then too. However, Larish could go earlier to a team looking on the cheap cause Larish really doesn't have much leverage and in my opinion made a big mistake turning down 750K last year (I think the Dodgers drafted him, am not positive). Either way an intriguing looking kid. Also very young, born on Dec 16, 1987

Here is MLB.com's scouting report on him: COMMENT: Tall, broad and strong. Huge, muscular thighs and forearms. Swings w/ an uppercut stroke w/ good strength and quickness in hands. Definite home run threat. Smooth play around the bag, w/ good hands and feet. Loves the game and plays w/ a kid's enthusiasm. He's a 6'3 1st baseman from Lakeshore Catholic High School

Will do Kap

QUOTE(Palehosefan @ Jun 6, 2005 -> 08:50 PM) I'm gonna be at work listening to the draft yipee. There won't be any research from me until 3 atleast . I might just have to start researching at work though, I don't think I can hold out that long. I love this being a bum. Since I finished up school (for the summer) I've been to work twice. I may go back in once more before starting up my internship on June 20th. Until than, Sox-Pads this weekend and than the following weekend in Chicago. WOOT I really forgot how great it was to do nothing (well I'm busy doing something...just not work).

QUOTE(danman31 @ Jun 6, 2005 -> 08:44 PM) Max Scherzer is the Mizzou stud that I'm gonna get to watch a lot next year. Snap, I forgot all about that Dan. With all that talk we had on AIM I completely zoned out to the fact that you'll get to catch some of the Tiger games.

QUOTE(Palehosefan @ Jun 6, 2005 -> 08:47 PM) Man I'm going nuts waiting for BA to put out their final projection tonight. This is getting ridiculous. Ya, I got my alarm set for early AM. Hoping that I'll have an email saying FS is back up. That probably won't happen, but I'm still gonna laze out like a bum for the entire draft (last year I was in school for this day, not this time...WOOT). God I can't wait.

Cal State Fullerton advances. I'm not sure on the final but the radio feed is out and they are archiving it on my schools website. Its not yet on the ncaa scoreboard as final though. CSUF

Tulane gets in. Owings pitched very strong en route to a 7-4 victory over Alabama. Fullerton is up 6-3 in the top of the 9th. Arizona has scored a run in the inning . There are two on and two outs in the Fullerton game. USC is up 5-2 in the top of the 7th.

Interesting comparison in regards to Bogusevic. They compare him a bit with Mulder. I can definately see the resemblance. They have similar builds and repetoires. Obviously thats a heck of a comparison and Bogusevic isn't near there yet, but he does have 3 good pitches and while he isn't a strikeout machine or have an overly dominate fastball he has good movement. His slider is a plus pitch though while his fastball is good and his circle change is a pitch with definate potential. After scouring around and finding a few clips of all the pitchers (and clips don't do justice of watching them in person or on tv often) but I'd rate them Carillo, Bogusevic, Torra, Townsend.

Carillo was more impressive than both, imo. His fastball has a lot of late movement (both tailing into the hands of righties or away from lefties) and he can also throw it with nice sinking action. Definately has the makings of a nice curve and changeup, but still has to refine those pitches more. Better velocity than the other two. I also think he's more projectable than the others. He has decent height and has good movement, but could potentially add 10-15 pounds to his frame. Really a nice pitcher with good makeup. His ball explodes a lot more than the other two righties.

Just watched some clips on Townsend. This were from his Rice days but his delivery isn't near as smooth as Tora's. Has similar velocity on his FB and holy cripes his slider is whicked (really nice drop). Of course its hard cause the camera angles are nasty. Big guy, kind of bulky, and his delivery doesn't look near as smooth as Torra (I think that had to be mentioned again). And I don't buy the listed weight on Townsend, he looks bigger than Torra and they are listed at the same weight.

Well, wasn't able to get the clip to show up. I don't know how to put in javascript popups and stuff.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jun 6, 2005 -> 08:05 PM) Since you've brought up Torra a week or so ago, I've really warmed up to him. I luv warming up... ROFL...I love the comparison in the MLB scouting report on Torra: COMMENT: Large frame. Broad shoulders and long arms. Slimmed down since '04. Similar to Matt Ginter. Quick, loose, and smooth arm. Lots of FB at knees. Able to command FB and CB down and away to RHH. Potential ML starter w/ development of change-up. Just had to laugh that they compare him to Ginter. He's got to be crapping his pants at that. I dno't know if they are talking about the weight loss or him as a pitcher. But Ginter was always a pretty damn big guy in my book. Clip of Torra Don't know if that will work. His curve looks like his best pitch. Fastball was consistent in the 88-90 MPH range on this day. Also mixed in a changeup, looked like a pretty decent changeup (hard to tell from the angle).

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QUOTE(Soxnbears01 @ Jun 6, 2005 -> 07:40 PM) Nice, easy W that's the way it should be against the rockies. Ya, probalby the most relaxing game all season.