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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 29, 2012 -> 11:56 AM) I bet if we took out all of the Ozzie related discussions, there would be about eight posts in this thread. Well, in greg's defense, I don't think it's just a coincidence a Marlins thread (one that he did not make) was created for the first time in soxtalk history this year. We all want Ozzie to fail now. greg doesn't. You had to know this was coming.

QUOTE (soxfan49 @ Jun 28, 2012 -> 09:56 PM) Once again, I'm not an NBA fan but I do watch some on a boring fall/winter night when there's no NHL, NCAA or NFL, but if the Bulls are going to be without Deng until November, Rose until March, and depending on Butler for big minutes, they might have a chance at a top 8 pick next June. No way Deng is going to be ready to go in November. And you still have to wait and see how the offseason plays out. But unless the Bulls are suddenly switching conferences, they're easily a playoff team.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 27, 2012 -> 09:24 PM) I guess he's from a rural part of New Jersey, and his senior year it rained a lot, so scouts didn't get to see enough of him. Crazy. 36-19 are the Angels since he was called up. That, my friends, is called impact.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 27, 2012 -> 08:53 PM) Watch Trout's catch...sick http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?g...mp;mode=gameday I saw the catch earlier. 4 more hits tonight as well. This guy went 25th overall. I don't believe he fell because of signability issue. Some heads need to roll for lettin' this kid get away.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jun 27, 2012 -> 04:09 PM) In all fairness, you thought I said Bill Russell was a Top 4 player of all time in the same post I said he doesn't make my top 5. I have no recollection of this alleged event in question. Like greg said, we have hackers in the vicinity of this board. Even if you find something that implicates me, it was the hacker. Not me.

QUOTE (RZZZA @ Jun 27, 2012 -> 04:01 PM) crapped on my heart...thats a quote from some movie, I just can't remember which I can't believe a grown man who's a pro athlete would say something so sissy.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jun 27, 2012 -> 03:26 PM) LOL NY KNICKS. Edit: Wait, s***, wrong thread. Oh well. sHUT UP, JERK.

QUOTE (Iwritecode @ Jun 27, 2012 -> 11:31 AM) I've thought for a long time that Greg is just a fake account by another poster that was made to rile us up. Nobody can be that happily clueless IRL can they? Thinking the NL is better than the AL was the last straw. greg's problem is that his love for Ozzie (aka 2005) has blinded him from facts and logic. He sees everybody taking shots (justified or not) at his hero and doesn't know what else to do other than to defend his guy. Personally, I've never seen somebody so obsessed with a manager. Players? Sure. But not a manager. And where greg kinda loses points is that the Sox have at worst a 50% chance of winning the division THIS YEAR. With Robin in charge and not Ozzie. I think there's part of him that doesn't want that to happen because he loves Ozzie so much and that would be the ultimate, "see, Ozzie was the problem," and he'd have to eat it and admit he was wrong. Nobody knows better than me what it's liked to get ganged up on. But I admit when I'm wrong. I don't think greg wants to do that.

QUOTE (Lillian @ Jun 27, 2012 -> 02:44 PM) I agree with everyone about Viciedo's potential. I stated it in my original post, and reiterated it in a a subsequent post. My point is very simple. As good as he will likely become, he is not that good yet. That is all that I'm arguing. He is simply not ready, at 23, to be a starting left fielder, on a contending team that is OBP challeged, like the Sox. And Dan Johnson is not ready to be anything on a contending or bad team. Otherwise, he wouldn't still be in the minors at 32.

Nice to get a win with only 5 hits. Didn't see the game. Did Dunn look better tonight?

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 26, 2012 -> 09:58 PM) I still think his account got hacked. Nope. That's him. I remember he got on me one time. lol. But damn. He snapped.

QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Jun 26, 2012 -> 03:06 PM) You were the one who brought up 55 homers in this thread. Straw man, much? In this thread? Yeah. But I've seen others say in multiple threads that Dunn can K 250+ times as long as he hits 50 or more HRs. It's not gonna happen

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 26, 2012 -> 03:02 PM) You laugh at the thread, but you should also laugh at anyone who really thinks Dunn will hit 55 homers. You want to look at his career numbers for everything else, you should probably look at them in the HR column as well. Also, 2011 did happen. Wait a minute. You have the audacity to say that a guy that hasn't hit over 40 since like 2004 is suddenly going to hit 55 despite a 40% k-rate? YOU GOTTA BE BLEEPIN' ME!!!!!

QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Jun 26, 2012 -> 02:49 PM) I'm not really concerned if Dunn is hitting .198 or .212. .170 vs. .230 is a huge difference. .198 vs. .212 is not. His stats overall this season are still fine, and if he was hitting .198 instead of .212 with an .850 OPS they'd still be fine overall. I said in two weeks. A month from now it could be a lot lower. I do not trust Adam Dunn. Even when he was hot I was scared to declare him "back."

QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Jun 26, 2012 -> 02:44 PM) At what rate? At this rate his total season OPS appears to be .879. Is it better for us to look at the sample size of the last 2 weeks or the entire season? Two weeks? He's .159/.293/.415/.708 since may 30. He's whiffed 41 times in his last 82 at bats (99 plate appearances). That's is Sigorney Weaver's face-like scary. We'll see what happens. But get off this as long as Dunn hit 55 HRs stuff. He's not going to do that if he doesn't somewhat cut that K rate down.

QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Jun 26, 2012 -> 02:38 PM) Why on earth are you concerned about a 14 point movement on the least valuable offensive metric available to evaluate this type of hitter? Dude, I love advanced statistics as much as anyone. But stop. If you're hitting below .200, you're hurting your team more than helping. Dunn has looked like fly-covered s*** for the last month. I'm not sure what's going to happen from this point on. But there's cause for concern.

QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Jun 26, 2012 -> 02:35 PM) If his OPS finishes north of .875, I couldn't care less if his BA is .100 or .300. It's not gonna happen at this rate. Mark Reynolds holds the record (I believe) for highest K-rate in history at 35.4%. His OPS that year was .753. Dunn is on pace to shatter the K mark. Don't get fooled by the home runs. He's hurting the team right now.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jun 26, 2012 -> 02:33 PM) That is your f***ing fear not mine sunshine network. He's at .212. You're not at all worried that two weeks from now he could be sitting at .198?

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jun 26, 2012 -> 02:28 PM) Who cares, If he strikeouts/groundouts/ flyouts.............outs are outs. His HR's, Rbi's, Runs scored and walks more than make up for the K's Not at this K rate. And all outs are not equal. A K is a K aka an automatic out unless the ball gets by the catcher (not like Dunn's slow ass could reach 1B in that situation anyway). When you put the ball in play, there's ALWAYS an opportunity that something could happened to enable you to get on base, drive in a run, etc. There's just no way to spin a 39% K rate into a positive.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 26, 2012 -> 12:44 PM) I think if he could maintain a 199 k pace, he'd hit for close to the same average he'd been hitting before he became a White Sox. Adding another 60 or so to a really high total to begin with hints there is a skill deterioration IMO. Its too many times for a #3 hitter to leave a man on third. I agree with DA here. Dunn has taken 3 true outcome player to a whole 'nother level. Whiffing at this rate is a detriment. I don't care what your other numbers are.

QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Jun 26, 2012 -> 09:21 AM) 25 MPG could be ideal for his current health status That's all they would really need from him in a 6th man role. Hoping it doesn't happen.

Lillian seems to have an affinity for scrubs. First Dallas McPherson and now Dan Johnson? No thank you.

Just saw on SC that there is supposedly "mutual interest" between Ray Allen and the Heat. Wouldn't that be just wonderful (assuming he's healthy, of course).

lol. Who put great 5th starter in 1995 in the sub-title? That's awesome. I'll give props to whomever did that as long as it wasn't Kalapse. He's terrible.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 25, 2012 -> 08:25 PM) The problem was the Lakers wouldn't agree to the deal without Deng and Kobe wouldn't approve a trade with Deng moving. Twice Kobe was extremely close to being a Bull. Neither time was he not a Bull because of the Bulls refusal to give up any of the players you mentioned. You know what, fine. I've heard a lot of different things in regards to Kobe. I don't know for sure what went down and I will concede that. But look, this is the third largest market in the country. Do something! Let's stop waiting for miracles and take aggressive action. Don't you promise Luol Deng anything. He's not that good to be promising him s***.