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QUOTE (kapkomet @ Aug 1, 2008 -> 04:30 PM) I was wondering who was going to dig this up. But where would he play?......green

Gameday showed 4 out of 5 to Cust were change ups. That is a veteran pitcher catcher working.

found on southsidesox but didn't see here http://www.bakersfield.com/136/story/466127.html

I'd stay with Masset ( before I knew we scored, now even more)

If Crede leaves the Sox, is it possible he could reach type B status? I think that is ranking 21-40 percent for 3b,2b,ss. Is it a two or three year average. I think plate appearances is included so last year would really hurt but I would love a sandwhich pick. Anyone help?

What odds could have been gotten preseason for a matchup of two of the better lefties in baseball would have a combined record of 1-12?

What does the pFX symbol on MLB gameday stand for?

Bet Crede starts, hope he looks great!

Dang, I was away for awhile and didn't mean to offend for starting a thread that offered an alternative to trading Crede for nothing or sticking Fields back in AAA. I was merely trying to point out how both could be used and possibly help the team as well. For what its worth, I agree that Robin prior to ankle injury was by far the better player than Crede. Again, nothing against Crede but Robin was very good. Anyone remember Kevin Bell prior to his injury?

I certainly don't want to dump Crede for a bucket of baseballs nor do I think Fields needs time in the minors. What do you do? How about this...... on average there are six games a week due to travel. We have many lefty starters in our division so lets guestimate 2 per week. Players involved are Crede, Fields, Konerko, and Thome. 3 with age and injury issues. 3B Crede 4 games Fields 2 per week. 1B Konerko 5-6, if hip sore or rest needed Crede 1 game. (This gets Crede to 5x a week with 1 extra day of rest/therapy. DH Thome 4 days a week. Lefty starters get Fields (2games)at bats and rest Thome's back. Check out Thomes splits vs lefties the last few years and they are horrible. Fields splits vs lefties are great. This also allows you to pinch hit Thome late vs a righty at a critical point or at minimum screws up the other teams bullpen.(Knowing Thome is healthy and available forces the other manager to save a lefty reliever or repeatedly warm him up or at least worry about him) On days Thome starts, Fields, Crede or Konerko would be able to pinch hit depending on the situation. With players like Owens, Richar, possibly starting (or sub days with Pablo )a thumper to pinch hit would be advantagous. This would get Fields to 4 full games a week with PH appearances as well. This may not be perfect but also allows us to either get value for Crede, establish value and trade near deadline, or keep and rest vets.

Am I the only person that thinks this is ridiculous? Why are my tax dollars being spent on this instead of fixing the economy, fighting a war, ending hunger, getting someone a job or education! No one is addressing the real reason.....MONEY. If you are a sucessful major leaguer you make millions for playing a game. Most of the players would have little ability to earn a living in the real world. They are trading a possible future health issue for the chance at millions. People smoke and drink with a lot more certain health problem for much less reward.

Not advocating Brown, but as a platoon hitter vs LHP .317avg .448slg isn't horrible. Again DH help vs LHP for Thome if he is agreeable to that role.

Not sure what he would cost but if not a lot I would love to platoon him with Thome. One year from free agency I am sure he would want a regular gig with more playing time.

I had posted about this previously, but I agree that we have some spots that scream platoon. One is Thome vs LHP. It gives him rest and he hit .196 vs lefties.

I agree that the biggest fundamental change that needs to be undertaken is a MAJOR investment of capital/cash in the scouting and draft. We need to adopt a best player available in the draft and sign them. This year without our second round pick, we should invest in scouts and training facilities as well as looking at international talent. This may take a number of years to pay off but there is no substitute for a steady infusion of young cheaper talent. I would also consider moving Konerko to aquire younger talent. The Angels, Dodgers, possibly Mariners offer possibilities.

Here was why I liked using Fields(assuming Crede is on the team as primary 3b) Thome: vs LHP avg. .196 OB+SP .664 vs RHP avg. .315 1.123 Fields: vs LHP avg. .321 OB+SP 1.069 vs RHP avg .213 OB+SP .677 Their averages are nearly mirror images. As much as Thome mashed rhp that is what Fields did to lhp. Hopefully, Fields can improve on what were pretty dismal numbers vs rhp with experience hence why I would still work him in for Crede.

I think everyone would agree that the Sox stand a better chance to compete if Thome and Crede(assuming he remains) are healthy and productive. I think people would also agree Fields is a promising player. Now, with those presumptions, here is what I would do. Thome hit 120 points higher off of righties(sub 200 vs lefties). This screams plattoon and resting him vs lefties also helps keep him healthy by giving his back periodic rest. (Some of his swings vs lefties may have HURT his back....sorry couldn't resist that). Since most pitchers don't finish games and closers are often righthanded, you have the pinch hit or threat of pinch hitting in the other teams late inning game management. Josh Fields did well as a rookie and I don't think he needs more AAA time. I noticed he hit 110 points higher vs lefties than righties. Perfect way to get him some at bats while resting Thome. Solid PH threat vs lefties as well on off day. Still, a young player needs more at bats to develope and I would use him 1-2 days a week at third to allow Crede to rest his back as well. This may be a best of both worlds scenario. If Crede is not dealt at the trade deadline and Fields is performing okay you might even consider spelling Konerko with Fields every now and then. Comments?

I like the idea because he is young and should not require a lot in trade. Specificly, he hit about 100 points higher vs lefties while both Richar and Owens hit righties better by 30 plus points. Depth at a couple of positions as well as possible plattoon player or just give day off vs tougher lefties.

QUOTE(jasonxctf @ Oct 31, 2007 -> 05:56 PM) watch the sox make this trade and then sign an exclusive agreement with Kellogg's to have an outfield section where employees dress up like snap, crackle and pop. We can't do snap crackle and pop as we aren't brining Erstad back!

I wonder if the offseason police issues kept Uribe from reporting in the best shape mentally and physically. May be able to turn it around since he is playing for a contract.

I would love that as well, but not if it is a reactionary move. I think best long term drafting is taking the best player available and SIGNING them. I don't want inferior talent taken for signability reasons. Now if two players are rated equal then signability is a factor.

Its come to looking ahead. Is there a good web site or two that have projections for 2008. Also regarding draft order, do the picks alternate between leagues or do they go by record only? Currently, we have the second worst record, but Tampa is AL team. Would we pick 2nd or third?

I have no problem with Floyd starting for August, if unsuccessful let Haeger start for September.

Now that Iguchi is begining to hit do you trade him, resign him or let him walk. I don't know what level of compensation picks he might bring if any due to his status.

I wonder if some of Iguchi's struggles come from trying to do to much when hitting lower in the order versus situational hitting at #2. His career USA stats in #2 are .276ba, .346obp, 2:1 so:w when hitting 6-8, in a small sample size, are .232 ba with 1w to 7k. I just remember him sucking last year in spring training when they tried to move him down. For now, I would probably ride the hot hand (Uribe) and try to give Iguchi some time off. (stats from baseball musings)