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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 18, 2014 -> 02:16 PM) And yet an unarmed NFL football player has never been shot down in the street by a police officer, have they? There have certainly been enough police/athlete confrontations over the years at traffic stops. How many of them were robbing a convenience store right before their confrontation. How many of them got physical with a cop on his own.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 18, 2014 -> 01:52 PM) well in that hypothetical, that's exactly what's at question. Police can't immediately go to deadly force if they're assaulted. If the guy is resisting arrest and hits you a couple of times, that doesn't (necessarily, usually) justify deadly force. At what point does it. When you are about to lose consciousness. A 6'3 300 pound man punches you in the face is not the same as a 5'8 175 pound guy doing the same thing. This isn't Mike Tyson's punch out.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 18, 2014 -> 01:26 PM) I'm not sure. I wonder if the Ferguson PD has any training and certification requirements on hand-to-hand unarmed combat. He is 6'3 300 pounds. What kind of ninja skills do you think they teach at the academy to combat sheer size and strength.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 18, 2014 -> 01:16 PM) Force, sure, but there's a force continuum. Punching a cop in the face doesn't entitle them to shoot you. A lineman on the bears decides to beat you down. Is that a bit different than a guy 5'8 175 pounds duking it out with you at the bar. The size does matter.

QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Aug 18, 2014 -> 01:13 PM) Would help if we knew more about the nature of the scuffle in/at the vehicle. If Brown was physically violent at that point, and then started coming at the cop again after the short chase, I think he has a reasonable need to use force. He was what 6'3 300 pounds. So basically a lineman on the bears is getting violent with you. Unless you are another large individual a physical altercation is going to not end well for the recipient of that encounter.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 10, 2014 -> 02:16 PM) The game isn't set up for the best. It is set up for the 99.9% of the rest. Exactly. My 10 year old played 9u travel last year pitching from 46 feet. This year they will pitch from that distance and have lead offs, balks, and drop 3rd strikes. In in-house Pony rules even they move to lead offs and 48 feet for the pitching at 11/12.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Aug 8, 2014 -> 11:22 AM) Over the years I have had to remind young pups like yourself that "IT AIN'T OVER TILL IT'S OVER". Never give up! Over the years, you have been wrong.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 20, 2014 -> 02:35 PM) I'm glad to see the draft lovers on this board have not wanted the Sox to tank this season to get a high draft pick. This case again shows the uncertainty of the draft. What if the Sox would have drafted this guy and they not signed him or his arm woulda fallen off so to speak in the minors? I haven't read the threads, but certainly some Sox fans would have loved to draft this guy. What did Houston get out of having the worst record last year? Nothing. It's all a crapshoot, baby. What if Abreu gets hit in the head by an acorn while walking through the park by a wayward squirrel and forgets who he is. What if Sale slips on a banana and hurts his right asscheek. Aiken has a smaller UCL and is still throwing 97 mph and is not injured. The common sense people wanted to take a bad season and turn it into something that will help the team for years. There were 3 pitchers that everyone had spun up as 1a, 1b, and 1c. There is risk in everything. Keep sticking your head in the sand with the "draft lovers" statements. Its these cartoon-like statements that have people dismissing just about everything you type.

You have to finish that one.

Congrats guys.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 16, 2014 -> 10:50 AM) What do you think a rebuild consists of Marty?

QUOTE (My_Sox_Summer @ Jun 13, 2014 -> 04:04 PM) When was it ever "cheap" to eat and drink at the park? I must have missed those days. It can be expensive, but it can also be very, very, very cheap. You can sit downstairs, every game, for $15. You can sit in the uppers for $7, and have pretty much your choice of seats. Take the kids when Sale is pitching, get a ticket, shirt and a poster for $20. Parking sucks, but you can park at Buffalo Wings and Things for free. They even have a shuttle to and from. Shaller's you can park for free but you have to walk. I think what it comes down to is convenience and laziness. You can bring in your own food and water. Your own snacks. You can tailgate! That makes up for the $20 parking fee. Hell, the hot dog place up the street sells a hot dog with fries for under $5. Pops under $2. Guys sell waters 2 for $1 OUTSIDE the park. But every game there is at least 15 people buying $5 waters. But you have to put in effort. So, if a fan who b****es about cost is really concerned about it, they would take these steps to make it cheaper. It's a tired excuse, the real reason is some people are just bad fans. Don't go, that's fine, but don't put in on the Sox because you don't go. They have made cost friendly for everyone. Time for a new excuse. As far as what these guys get paid, it pales in comparison to what the owners make. They guys on the field should get paid. Until we stop watching and going, they will. Well this was predictable. These attendance threads always wind up having the same feel from year to year. 1.) Shock and awe because how could real sox fans not go to the X game with X pitcher playing. 18k fans. 2.) Counter arguments about how inflation is an evil beast, 10 f***ing bucks for X foot/drink item. 3.) The Geographically challenged Sox fan who if only they lived 1500 miles closer would buy a season ticket plan, plant sox flags in their yard, shoot tshirts with the pride crew. 4.) The superfan. They went to X more games than you. How the f*** can you call yourself a sox fan. The TV doesnt count in their world. 5.) Grumblings about millionaires playing baseball. 6.) Threats to move team. 7.) Blame X person in Sox Management for being out of touch. 8.) The self loathing sox fan who is kind of like the superfan, however likes the park empty because they can pee without waiting in a line, like the roomy seats, no lines for concessions and get to tell their buddies how they suck as sox fans. You want to solve this problem. It involves boosting season ticket sales. Plain and simple. You are not going to get 20k walkup on a thursday night game no matter who the f*** is pitching. Season ticket sales is the key. And I am sorry that takes a few years to build up. Rebuilding teams that are coming off of near 100 loss seasons are not adding to their season ticket base. No I haven't been to any games this year. Its not money, its not that they are bad. I am in another category that happen as well. The oversubscribed parent of a travel baseball player. Between games, practices, and tournaments there are some of us who don't have time to go. In August when this is over, I will do my good to embrace my fandom and take my family to the park. But until then it has to wait. I will be a terrible fan who uses my phone, my laptop and dare say it my TV to keep up with the Sox. Watching my son play the game is still a better use of my time than watching the sox any day. If that makes me a bad fan, then so be it. Go Sox

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 10, 2014 -> 09:06 PM) Also the last MLB pitcher to win 25+ games...27 to be exact. One of my favorite pitchers of all time. Very sad. Great talent and another example of a bulldog mentality.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 9, 2014 -> 12:51 AM) Sale is an ace? ... Not yet, folks.

Well that sucked. Great game. Bad result at the end. Get them next year.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 30, 2014 -> 09:32 PM) He is playing well. Oduya just saved his ass on that wrap around though, so much empty net. Crawfords leg was pinned by a king.

For me its not about the prices, or even the product on the field. I just don't have time anymore until say August to go to any games. Between my sons travel baseball schedule and my daughters various activities ( gymnastics, dance, softball )there is no time at all. We love to go to Sox games and I used to have a ticket package I just have hit a point between me, my wife and my two kids schedules for activities that there is limited free time. Around August when the schedule opens up for a bit we will be at the park to see games. I personally find this team a hell of a lot more paletable than some of the teams we have had here in years. Exciting new players, rebuilding on the fly.

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 7, 2014 -> 01:33 PM) I said if Semien gets sent down it is one of my saddest days ever as a Sox fan. He belongs right now. You can see it despite his batting average. He's got so many clutch hits. He does not deserve to be in the minor leagues. Trade Keppinger for a bag of balls. Trade Beckham for a bag of balls. Get rid of DeAza. Keep Semien. Crazy Logic >>>>>>>>>>>> Actual Logic

At least Pods bad defense was fun bad.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Apr 29, 2014 -> 10:26 PM) great f***ing bunt Now if that was one of our players, the pitcher would of caught it in the air on a nice popup.

QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Apr 23, 2014 -> 07:29 AM) What's new about Flowers's approach? He's walking and striking out pretty much exactly the same amount as he was last year. His arms are back in a better position. His bat is inverted with the bat knob facing towards his back foot. The bat head is above his head. He is setting himself up better by keeping his upper half more quiet with this setup, and his lower half is keeping closed more with a firm front foot and great rotation on the back heel. So far it looks pretty damn good.

QUOTE (Jake @ Apr 21, 2014 -> 10:38 PM) The Sox have handled Sale very well. I can't believe how crazy people get about pitch counts. Dusty Baker is on your side. He feels that pitch counts are over rated as well.

QUOTE (Tex @ Apr 6, 2014 -> 03:33 PM) I'd be interested to know what fans in KC think. Ask Greg

Like the offensive approach so far. Patience.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Apr 10, 2014 -> 02:43 PM) How do we remove the Gillaspie toy from the Ventura toybox? There is a end date here when Davidson is promoted. We just have to wait.