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That was disappointing . The ump isn't giving that slide of the plate on his slider but he pitched into where Jose was looking to hit it. Him looking to drive in 2 runs with a single isn't a bad idea but it is when you can just take some pitches and look to drive a pitch instead.

Was Rob Married then . His wife seems real nice.

I might get an early start on Everything , Everywhere All At Once but gonna hang til close to the end most likely.

Where's The Beef ?

There we go !

I think its fine to leave him down when the Sox suck and maybe they do suck but we're not supposed to suck and they could use the help. It's still a while til Mid Sept. I don't expect that OPS to stay at 1.470 but if it stays at .900 or so through AA and through a quick promotion to AAA, I think it's fine to call him up since he has so much Cuban support on the team.

uh uh uh . I warned you about this trusting the organization thing. But if you're just hoping their pass the buck nature makes him a scapegoat it's allowable.

Colas always has the option of trusting the minor league coaches he seemed to respond well to in AA and ignoring Menechino. Ok coach OK gracias and just go on his merry way.

I'm surprised at you. Get the LH savage defense and arm and hope the bat responds but even if it doesn't how much worse could it be from Sheets at least we still get the defense. Plus plenty of RHP against the Indians and Twins down the stretch.

HA You been reading my posts ?

Markel thank you.

A few have mentioned a roster spot opening but no one has said who or how it opened. Someone put on the 60 day IL ?

I've actually liked the pen the last few weeks accept now Lopez has a bad back and just when Kelly was starting to turn it around he gets hurt ( I hate that acquisition more every day). Lambert in limited usage 9.0 IP over the last month hasn't given up a run. Crochet injured of course led to all the BP acquisitions in the off season but it shouldn't have been a priority nor the place where top dollar was spent,when the pressing need was and always has been to get the lineup LH help and starting pitching some depth. Plenty of teams get decent BP help spending much less.

I don't want Gallo just personal preference. And the need for even 2 LH bats is considerable. Which is why I've been saying Happ and Wendle and also not against keeping a very close eye on Colas. If he keeps performing and can be brought up around Sept. 12 now you have Happ in LF , Robert in CF ,Colas with his defense and arm in RF and Wendle the strong side of a platoon with Harrison. I think 3 extras left handed bats could be a huge improvement if you also get Moncada and Grandal hitting and taking walks in the 2nd half. Compare it to the LH bats and defense in the 1st half. Leury, Sheets, McGuire, bad Moncada/bad Grandal.

I always like how you support your arguments and preface it with if more impactful players can't be acquired .

Now that they have Benintendi yea that's about the size of it.

In 2020 sure that would've worked, not now. It's called a rebuild when you're supposed to be in the middle of the best year to win the World Series. 2020 and 2021was the we got to the playoffs stage 22 and 23 where supposed to be the years we could win it all. He suggested the window will continue next year by reforming when the Sox are playing .500 ball since last August. Our window is officially over with the series of disastrous moves since TLR was hired while not firing Hahn and everyone else before the rebuild and bombing the infrastructure. Neither the moves you or I or NCfan suggest are likely to happen. If they were movies my suggestions for this year mine would be "Long Shot . Yours and his suggestions would be "Mission Impossible". Doesn't matter ,we're .500 now and likely to stay that way no matter who agrees with who. I just want the best for this year, any other suggestions are just spitting into the win and wanting to pull the mask off the old Lone Ranger because the muck of mediocrity is already up to our chins.

You don't owe me an apology at all. Ever since Covid started I've been saying well isn't this wonderful. It's just the Sox luck to be attempting a rebuild during a pandemic and what was then the looming CBA agrrement and keeping the same guys in charge who messed up the team in the 1st place all while doing nothing to change the infrastructure of the organization. Then they do us a real solid and hire TLR and follow it up with the trade deadline mess and the off season from hell while spending gobs of money on relief pitching and still keeping the position players mainly right handed and hiring Menchino who's hitting philosophy doesnt suit our ball park. Throw in a crap ton of injuries and voila , here we are. Unfortunately I saw the writing on the wall and was hoping that they would shove my words down my throat.

I don't think you actually are agreeing with him. He mentioned trading 3 guys for premium talent and reforming in the off season to extend the window. If they aren't going to bring in differences makers for this year what makes you think they are going to overhaul the organization when that should've been done before the rebuild ? You're advocating a rebuild and complete tear down of the infrastructure with JR in charge who never spends on fixing infrastructure. He'll do minor stuff here and there but has never committed to giving Intl. player development any real chance with the no 16 yr old policy. Look how quickly the minors became devoid of any talent. Best scouts and guys from good organizations doesn't happen. Red Sox got Chaim Bloom. I think Minnesota picked up a guy who reshaped Houston. The Dodgers has been poached a little bit but not by the Sox. Same for Tampa Bay , nobody from them either. NCsoxfan said reform in the offseason to extend the window . That's not even close to what you're suggesting.

Sorry excuse me for not knowing what you're talking about. I can't follow the having it both ways arguments you seem to think I'm making . You're quoting me as saying " could we sign similar players in FA ?" I don't remember saying that or much of anything about signing FA's except for when I said JR doesn't pay for starting pitching. Either way you should probably show me where i said that so I can see the context if I even said it.

I'd have to look at threads from that time but I'm pretty sure I was advocating moves then too. I think more people were worried about ruining the upcoming window going for it in 2020 so I found just as much resistance to going for it then as I am now. My theories have always been the Sox are gonna Sox and screw everything up so go for it when you can. Nobody believed me then and still everyone thinks this is a lost season and they will miraculously turn things around next year with a little retooling . I didn't understand it then and I don't understand it now.

I know what I have outlined is a long shot. I mean a really long shot. It depends on a bunch of guys having better 2nd halves and also on 4 acquisitions + Colas + Lynn and Gio that also perform well in the 2nd half. Not only that but the acquisitions that I want ! LOL who the hell knows what acquisitions Hahn actually makes. but I just don't see things getting better after this year. The Sox already have too many payrolls commitments with arb raises coming and still needing starting pitching when Cueto leaves.

Abreu old and counted out so often but yet he's still the best hitter on the team. Lynn, one of the really nice trades Hahn has made but now in the doghouse because he hasn't had a miraculous rebound from his time off. Hendriks is a great closer. Trade Lynn, Cueto leaves . Giolito leaves after next year. What are you getting back for these guys ? JR doesn't pay for top of the line pitching. Lynn cost 1 prospect and made less than $10M when the Sox got him . Cueto cost $3.32 M. Gio, Kopech and Cease came in rebuild trades so if you're only trading old guys and not cost controlled younger vets where is the top of the line pitching coming from ? The core ? Keep the core of who among the position players ? Robert great , Eloy , good luck with that, Moncada ,he hasn't been much help this year so far. Hopefully he can turn it around for a long time. Vaughn great,you really think the Sox trade Abreu ? Which contender needs a 1st baseman ? Which terrible teams want to give up youth for a guy his age ? Hendriks sure all contenders can use him but what' the return going to look like ? MLB ready or low minors guys ? Yay more prospects who won't immediately help and you're going to need immediately help without any starting pitcher and without a closer. Plus after you do all this how in the hell do you expect to contend ? That's the point isn't it ,to contend , to make the playoffs? We're already .500 with the core and you're taking away the best older guys for I don't know what kind of return you're expecting . What prospects in the minors do you see as contributors soon enough to help the core you're keeping and leaving without any starting pitching and no closer ? Sounds like a less than .500 team to me. Sounds like a mini rebuild that'll just make the team worse but great the farm will be ranked from 25th or so now to what, 20th after these moves ? Might as well go full rebuild again if that's the plan. You can't fix the team in 2 sentences . Sure it's that easy to rid yourself of veterans for a "Premium" return to extend the window . That's super vague and doesn't even work as a theory. Reform the team ? Love that . Please you have to do better than that.

That's the whole point. If not this season when ? Do you think it's going to get better next year ? The year after ? This might be it for a while. I'll tell you what I see. I see a team that lost a lot of time to injury and some miserable decisions by the front office since the trade deadline last year. Eloy as usual hurts the most. Supposed to be a big bat ,has been a big disappointment and his absence has ruined the offense. But he is healthy now. Time to put on his big boy pants. I don't really want to see Vaughn on the bench very often but DH is the only place for him but if we don't get a LF I guess that's where to alternate him and Vaughn DH/LF. It's either that or find a way to trade him, Vaughn or Pollock and I'd really like to keep Vaughn. Moncada , another guy whose injuries and performance have killed the offense. But now he looks healthy. A good 2nd half from him goes a long way to helping the team balance the lineup .It's not asking too much of Yoyo to hit as many HR's as Jake Burger is it ? He's been good for the last 2 weeks, just stay that way. Grandal another dismal 1st half. But he's back to add more LH punch . Since coming back hitting .421, 8/19 and 1 walk in 5 games. The HR stroke can't be too far behind right ? I'd like to see Yas tie Sheets for HR's on the season with 7. Gotta hit 5 Yas. Pollock, 3.1 fWar last year. 2nd best offensive season of his career at age 33. Bam comes to the Sox at age 34 and puts up the worst offensive numbers of his whole career. Here's another guy who should have a strong 2nd half. He has had some late clutch hits for the Sox but still need him hitting and getting on base more. Those are 4 pretty good players who really should rebound from nothing 1st halves to pretty good 2nd halves. They all have played a big part in how bad the offense has been. If Hahn can manage not to screw up, add some LH/SH OF help like Happ and assume he doesn't bomb that's a big improvement over Sheets in RF . But he's not really a RF he belongs in LF . So who is going to play RF ? Oscar Colas. Yea I know . Impossible, too raw, not ready. He's more than ready defensively. Big arm, decent speed. Put him next to Robert and put Happ in LF and now we're talking. He's almost 24, already older than Juan Soto, so I'm not worried about his clock starting. Put him around some of his fellow Cubans and see what happens. You're not going to ruin him letting him face MLB pitching. It didn't ruin Vaughn. He'll have Cuban familia around him. People on here talk about Gallo because he can play defense and hit bombs even if he bats less than .200. If people are willing just to get that, then they should be willing to accept Colas. Bring him up Sept 12th and plug him in and see what happens. Of course there's still TLR to contend with but tell him to play him every day. It's only to the end of the season if he's brought up in Sept. Joey Wendle . 32 yrs old multi position player LH .Mutual option for 2023. Get him to be the strong side of a platoon with Harrison. 110 career wRC+ against RHP 116 this year. He isn't a detriment in the field at 2nd base but probably a bit below Harrison. This post is probably too long already but Mr. Wegner asked me what I see , so I won't get into pitching, but a lefty starter and BP piece can be found if someone takes Eloy or use other minor league pieces not named Montgomery and Colas. We'd still have Pollock, Vaughn, Colas , Robert , Engel and Happ (hopefully) for the OF/DH. What I also see is more .500 baseball for many years ahead from next year on if changes aren't made so why not see if some of those changes can work this year ? Ether way we still have to rely on Hahn to fix the mess that he and injuries have created.

I didn't even know Robert had a rehab assignment.