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They finally got one of the guys I mentioned. Of course I mentioned every Cub reliever in that one post.

They seem to like guys with control over guys with overwhelming stuff if you are getting a pitcher who can be taught other things who might have some upside with the FB and secondary pitches. Plus outside of that it wouldn't take a genius to think that if you had to choose among some of our guys like Stiever and Lambert who the Sox might not have given up that Pilkington was having a good year and that seems to be a deciding factor in the prospects that are getting traded now. Of course I know you are just asking me this so you can shoot me down . Let me then ask you this ? Why is it such a big secret for you to say who the Sox were targeting in a Samardzija trade. It happened 6 years ago. What's the big deal there ?

Considering it took Semien to get Samardzija you would think so but I guess its a mystery that requires a DM for anyone to know even though it was 6 years ago. Had to be to a contender so if we are looking at the 2015 standings , Cardinals, Pirates , Cubs, Mets, Dodgers, Rangers, Astro's, Blue Jays, Yankees . Not counting the Royals . Urias of the Dodgers probably ranked too high . Same for Syndergaard, Bryant, Correa, Corey Seager, . Gallo , Pederson, Glasnow, Taillon, Judge, Marco Gonzales, Josh Bell, Aaron Nola. Of course lots of guys from the bottom 50 of the top 100 who never turned out very well.

I'm just informing anyone looking at the rankings that they don't mean much now. It's not a commentary on the trade. When I saw the trade going down before I knew who it was Cleveland was getting . I figured it was a minor league starting pitcher and if I had given it much thought before I actually saw Pilkington's name I probably would have guessed that it was him just based on this seasons results as the kind of pitcher Cleveland likes.

Yea but even the 2021 preseason lists are very old considering there were still guys like Vaughn , Kopech and Crochet on it and 2020 season didn't even happen. We see a lot of the prospects given up in trades are having good seasons which seems to be outweighing rankings now.

I just threw some names out there for someone impactful like Kimbrel , not necessarily Kimbrel. I didn't analyze anything. It's hard for a layman to figure it out when there's a lot going on in Kimbrel's contract: Contract Notes: 2022 Vesting/Club option includes a $1M buyout Vest with 110 games finished across 2020/2021 & 55 games finished in 2021 & passes a physical 2022 Buyout increases $1M each for 53 games finished in 2020, & 2021 I have no idea if he will reach the vesting option portion of his contract. If he does he gets $16M next year . Cubs might eat some of his contract to get more prospects. It's even likely that they do. Maybe someone out there knows more about how close he is to those 110 games finished or if they are even possible to reach.

I really think they are counting on a rebound in his BABIP for the 2nd half. It's already started if his last month of production is any indication when he's been over .900 OPS.

Doubting anything big happens. Big would mean someone on the 26 is getting moved in all likelihood. Who is the most likely ? Keuchel ? Who needs starting pitching ? Toronto, Mets, Phillies, Padres. Unless the Sox think they can get someone impactful like Kimbrel for Crochet Sheets and Burger.

Nope

His BABIP is way down so the Sox might be hoping his 2nd half is better. His ISO is up. Very solid fielder and I think that matters too.

I'm guessing Cleveland liked one of our young arms. Edit: Yep Pilkington

They must like one of our pitchers. His ISO is up this year. His BABIP is way down. They might hope that BABIP goes up in the second half and he is solid defensively.

Well if true Cleveland must like one of our pitchers.

Still the point remains that if all but one were vaccinated some players have it again and the new strain could be a very real threat to the health of players .

That's very astute of you Ron ! Guess that would eliminate some Nats since they had 8 staff members and 4 players effected in their recent outbreak.

Such a nice way of saying"It's a bunch of bullshit." So the Brewers missed something ? What about Story ? Anyone think he's healthy when his throwing speed is down and his barrel % is at the lowest of his career ? If very little goes on it's because the money's already been spent on Lance Lynn.

Or Semien (8th in fWAR while Tatis, Jr. is 6th) . Couldn't be Bassitt , Narvaez 3.0 fWAR ( as much as Moncada) or Escobar . Those happened long ago.

I won't be angry although we are already hearing some excuses. I mean people here are like oh see the Story stuff pops up right after the Escobar trade to the Brewers as if something else is going on. But what did we hear about Sox being picky on the medicals? Oh didn't like Escobar's meds even though he hit for 124 wRC+ for the last month, yet Story after a HBP on his hand and his throwing speed is down and his hitting is down and we should believe there isn't something wrong with him ? Then of course Eloy is back, Robert coming soon, Lynn gets 2 more years so everybody's happy right ?

What makes you think he's getting $20M in Arb 3 next yr. when his current year is $6.2M . Wouldn't that be some kind of record like by far ? I think his salary could double or even higher than that but $20M seems way out of line.

They've kept him healthy so far. I consider that a plus for his development as a reliever. Trade him to a team that starts him and he'll end up getting Tommy John surgery.

Why does an announcer have to have credibility to mention someone is an upcoming FA and therefore could be moved by a team that is probably 50/50 on buying or selling ?

Road woes.

You really can't answer that question yourself ? It's fucking Twitter where everybody says anything because ...insert any reason you can imagine because people...

All my guys are gone I think, Gallo, Escobar, Graveman ,Yimi Garcia, Chafin are all guys I mentioned a couple of weeks ago. S.Marte not done yet I guess but looking likely.