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Thank you Fozzie Bear.

I think that's quite a stretch on Crochets innings. I think we'd be lucky to get 75 innings between the minors and the Sox. Both will be monitored very closely and not over pitched, especially if they do well, so that they can be available for the last month or 2 of the season and see if they are playoff worthy in roles that coincide with their minor league work and innings pitched to that point.

I don't know if he will spend the whole year in the bullpen but I wouldn't expect more than a handful of starts. In 2019 how many innings did he pitch for the Vols ? 65 ? Then in 2020 he had 1 start for the Vols then the Sox drafted him. Don't conveniently forget his background. After that 1 start he had shoulder/back issues. He had 36 appearances and 13 starts in 3 years with Tenn. The major concern about him was lack of sustained high level performance. He's a bit away from being someone who can start even 20 games per year. I'd be happy with 65 uninjured innings from him and that's a reliever load. Then you can look into him extending beyond that in 2022, spot starts ,etc. Maybe get him up to over 100 innings but he just seems like the kind of guy who's going to have rotator cuff problems or Tommy John surgery . The Sox are going to handle him accordingly, but if they need him he's going to be in the pen in 2021.

You are a quality new member. Probably because I agree with some things you say. I too value BA more than most people and the less swing and miss approach. Any way you get on base is great but getting on via a hit accomplishes more.

I agree but I've like Brantley forever and I was hoping the Sox signed him last time he was available and could still play RF cromulently. I'm also not real sure you can call playing every day over Vaughn blocking him. I have no doubt Brantley would contribute more to the Sox than Vaughn would for at least the 1st year and maybe even a 2nd year. It's a proven LH bat , OBP guy with some pop vs a RH bat, no MLB experience , no experience higher than A+. If Vaughn is so hot, let him tear up the minors for a while. Brantley can always be moved if Vaughn forces his way into contention for a starting job.

Wacha always reminded me of Fozzie Bear

The least of my concerns. If he can still pitch is first. https://www.latimes.com/sports/dodgers/story/2020-05-29/david-price-donates-1000-to-each-dodgers-minor-league-player-june https://dodgersway.com/2020/06/09/dodgers-david-price-discusses-donation-minor-leaguers/ https://dodgersway.com/2020/06/04/dodgers-david-price-minor-leaguer-grateful/

This is definitely something I haven't seen suggested after seeing this in Rotoworld: Dodgers manager Dave Roberts told reporters on Thursday that he is unsure if David Price will return to pitch in 2021. https://www.rotoworld.com/baseball/mlb/player/18660/david-price?source=trending Dodgers clearly don't need him . He'll be 36 in August. He forfeited his pro-rated salary last year when he sat out 2020. Dodgers are paying him $16M for 2021 and 2022 while the Red Sox pay an equal amount. Would the White Sox be interested if the Dodgers paid half his salary ? That would be a 2 year @$8M a year deal. I have no idea what the Dodgers might want in return and there would have to be a guarantee from Price he won't sit out again. Price has made a lot of money in his career so maybe he isn't all that motivated to return after sampling a full year of family life . Also have to consider he could retire soon or even after a year of pitching with the Sox. Sox probably wouldn't go for it, depending on the return ,unless the starting pitchers they could also be looking at on the FA market are all seeking multiple year deals.

Ahh Ok I was reading between the dashes . Thanks fellas.

I don't know if you re reading your own stats wrong or I am. According to what you are showing he threw a higher percentage of curves of his total pitches . SO he actually threw 30.1 % curves in 2020 as opposed to 21.0 % in 2019, so he threw more curves percentage wise.

I remember that intrasquad game. He looked like an ace. K'd a bunch of guys. Then during the season we never saw that Cease again. 8 K's in 4.2 innings.

The splash could be an extension of LG or LL or both.

Yea, it wasn't exactly a big tank. Cost us better draft position and money. If you are going to buy guys when you tank they better be damn good so you can flip them.

That's usually the better value but how many recent World Series winners didn't buy high end FA starting pitchers or have at least 1 on the staff already ? Our starting pitching will get real weak soon if Keuchel under performs or Lynn bolts after a year and some guys don't step up. The young guys have a long way to go before they can even pitch a full season.When you pay for a Cy Young winner you shouldn't be too worried about a 4.50 ERA. If that's the case, how do you ever get that top end guy and still keep the prospects around to extend the window ?

Welcome ! If anyone wants Murphy they can probably get him for less at his age. Also never known as a good fielder. We need guys who can field for depth.

Basically, for you to feel validated by someone else- you feel the other person has heard and understood what you said. It is a form of support and acceptance. Is this a bad thing? Don't we all post our opinions and hope others see things from our unique perspectives ? Aren't the little emoji buttons meant for showing support or thanks for agreeing with me or to laugh as validation that a joke we made was funny or simply that what we said was so stupid its funny ? If a comedian bombs wouldn't he be happier and feel validated that he was indeed funny by the laughter of the audience ? No one likes to be ignored. We don't do it simply to be validated but it's always appreciated.

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The Cleveland Rocks ? Too confusing with the Rox. I'm betting against a tie in with the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Spiders ?

And that's a legit concern. Every single RF option had the ever present "red flags" be it horrible defense ,injury concerns ,present cost, long term cost, etc. Springer is the one and only one we would be truly shocked if he sucked. And plenty here think, myself included, that pitching was the biggest need by a long shot so I still expect more pitching to gain that edge and let the young guys get prepared for that future edge.

Not what I wanted to happen but sort of knew it would. I just wanted to know 1 thing. And you answered it hell yes. Thank you.

I am not pro Eaton despite the question I asked. I was also not pro Joc and thought the actual best fit was JBJ ( outside of Springer )because he played pretty good defense and can play CF and having 3 CF guys is a good thing for late inning defense. I don't trust that his batting woes were solved last year but the fact he did better than usual isn't a bad sign. But Joc for his hitting against RHP would have been better. Just not real sure if the Sox wanted to go multiple years on him if that's what he requires. Same applies to Bradley.

Someone is going to be peeved.

There you finally said it. That's all I wanted.

Don't get sucked into rehashing the same stuff that was in the main Eaton thread. This is just how he avoided the simple question I asked. If this thread devolves into that he wins.