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What about Goodwin ? wRC+ of 216 so far in a tiny sample size. Vaughn 35 wRC+ in much larger sample size. Mind you I'm not advocating Vaughn sit every night against RHP. Obviously he's needed because of injuries. Just thought I'd clarify that since the reading comprehension level decreases with the need to obscure the facts when I discuss this with others . Thank you for your honesty. Emoji from me.

SO I'm curious about how you feel about line up optimization when Vaughn plays against RHP ? I know this may not optimize your choice between emoji points and the optimal lineup but let's hear it !

Development at it's finest ! Progress ? Luck ? Stars aligning ? Voodoo ? Favorable match up ?

Sure there is . They are named Eloy Jimenez, Luis Robert, Eduardo Escobar, Kyle Schwarber, Starling Marte and a relief pitcher or 2 .Can't really count on Eloy and Robert getting back to 100% but like Engel he was pretty good in the small amount of time he had. Maybe the Sox slow play Eloy and Robert because of that especially Robert. Eloy's issue wasn't his legs. How much help the Sox decide to go after is up to Scrooge McDuck so I understand your hesitancy about that. But some real winnable games coming up before the All Star break and the Sox could be in the hunt for the best record in the AL if they win a fair share of them. I'll keep prioritizing home field advantage . Not so sure anyone else is including Reinsdorf or the fans. All I keep hearing is Vaughn ,yum yum, development,yum yum ,more important than home field advantage or the World Series and ,yummmy, future teams , decade long dominance, 2nd wave ,mmm mmm good, sustained success . SO yup eating up what Hahn and Reinsdorf are selling with a big ole spoon.

Leury has been playing on an every day basis and so has Vaughn. Leury 83 wRC+ ,Vaughn 35 wRC+ both against RHP. If his hitting is terrible what would you call Vaughn's. You're banking on upside happening. Vaughn the 2nd best defender is quite the stretch. DO you think he'd be better in CF over Goodwin? Goodwin can actually play CF even if not so well because of his speed. Every day that goes by and Vaughn gets more and more chances ,his Outs Against Average will continue to get lower and lower. That cannot be denied when more and more flyballs will be beyond his grasp due to his lack of speed. You put Goodwin in a corner and he's superior to Vaughn. This Lamb theory about favorable matchups is news to me even though I have seen you say it before. Tell me about it ,make a case. With as many blogs and Sox writers out there I'd love to see anything that supports this favorable matchup theory about Lamb against RHP. If anything you could say Vaughn is being played against favorable RHP matchups and his stats are still terrible against them. Just like you are banking on Vaughn's upside I'll admit I'm banking on Lamb or Goodwin both being better hitters than Vaughn against RHP based on their handedness and the results to date as small as they might be. So yes I really believe what I am saying just as you believe what you are saying. I have a tiny bit of proof in small sample sizes. I'm not sure you have any proof unless you want to count any evidence to can find about Lambs favorable matchups or Vaughn being the 2nd best defender left in the OF or Vaughn's upside against RHP happening relatively soon.

Winning now is nice because it contributes to winning in the way more fucking important October. How do you think teams get home field advantage ? Sox very good at home .

What's the confusion? I want the best players to play every day this year regardless of future player development because I think this year will be the best chance to win a World Series and winning as many games as possible is the main key in getting home field advantage for the playoffs. Vaughn is great against LHP and is going to play against RHP. I just don't think it should've been as much as you think . But now with Engel injured he can continue to develop as you liked. You on the other hand want to develop Vaughn and possibly sacrifice this year to that end because Vaughn 35 wRC+ vs. RHP is way better than Leury's 83 now the main CF Lamb 123 the now injured Engel's 155 Goodwins 216 So yea I wanted those guys to get a shot not so much at the expense of Vaughn ,but certainly equal time because winning now is important and I don't see a better chance in the future years as I see now. Only time will tell about what I said about not winning a World Series in Vaughns heydays with the Sox.

Once again you interpreting how I feel rather than going with the multiple posts based on what I actually said. I have said in many posts I am very optimistic about Vaughn's future at 1st base. Not so optimistic as you just said about there being better options against RHP available on the roster now. One of them was eliminated with the Engel injury so Vaughn will get plenty of AB's against RHP. I was never blind to the fact that even without the Engel injury he would continue to get PT against RHP. It's more about winning now . I am in the same boat as everyone else about Vaughn's future and have made enough posts stating that . You don't ever seem real keen about using things I actually said so please stop interpreting my feelings since you can't get it right.

If your idea of a good case is to use only some things I said and lie about other things I said you better stick to checkers and because lying , being smarmy and only using half truths is pretty pitiful. I said Leury, Goodwin and Lamb and I also said Engel before he was injured. SO since you are so fond of wRC+ lets look at all 4 players in that stat against RHP. Vaughn 35 Leury 83 Lamb 123 Engel 155 Goodwin 216 You lose. Maybe even checkers is too complex for you. Obviously with the injury to Engel and Leury being the main CF now Vaughn will get plenty of time in the OF against RHP and I'm cool with that but not cool with you distorting everything I say. Plus even though you admitted I was right about your lie that I said Vaughn should be sent down but you doubled down by saying it was my idea to use Leury only when clearly I used more than Leury as an example . And even though you posted a bald face lie about what I said and you admitted I was right you didn't take that lie out of your post. How low can you go ? Maybe the limbo is your thing, not checkers and not chess of any kind.

Except I never said send him down . Duh. Pay attention.

I would be against that. Why send him down when you need his bat against LHP ? Again it's a winning now thing. Sending him down doesn't help winning now even though it's against a much smaller percentage of pitchers or even if it just adds another 1 or 2 wins with him in the lineup or pinch hitting against LHP I'll take his contribution happily and his contributions against RHP too since we all know he's going to get his chances there too.

Thanks for the support but apparently judging by the ever popular emoji's there are a lot more people who believe Vaughn's development is far more important than winning now. Our minor difference of opinion between sending him down or keep playing him against LHP is also based on winning now because I don't want the lineup to just "manage" against LHP . Every win is important to winning now even against LHP. The difference between getting home field advantage could be just 1 game in the standings and I don't like taking our best hitter against LHP out of the lineup or getting the chance to pinch hit in big situations against LHP.

Our team is on the IL.

Ok so ignore the putrid hitting stats all you want and lack of defense or speed. Fine by me. Hope you are happy when Vaughn becomes a great player at 1st base and the Sox don't win any World Series during the supposed decade long window. Our differences cannot be settled now.

Long term yes I'd never argue against that. Also with the current state of the OF you have to keep Vaughn in the OF but I'm also not going to want to decrease Goodwin, Leury and Lambs playing time either when home field advantage is so important to the present . Plenty of room now in the OF and DH for all to get significant AB' against RHP.

I can agree with this with Engel injured now.

Yea Goodwin would be fine in LF or RF . He's not Engel out there but he also isn't Vaughn or Lamb bad since he is much faster than those 2.

At this point I'd call it lack of options . The Sox have got decent contributions from their depth. They are beyond depth concerns now and frankly have been.

They need both. With Power. Starling Marte, Escobar, Schwarber 2 of those 3 and relief pitching. The list keeps growing which means the chances of Reindorf covering all areas is dwindling.

Still amazed when there's Home Field advantage and a possible World Series on the line to see someone say Vaughn is as bad as it gets but still play him against RHP as if Vaughn is more important than that.

Nah it's no. Sox didn't have Goodwin early in the season and didn't yet consider Lamb in the OF , so I'll stick to Goodwin and Lamb getting AB's over Vaughn against RHP

Now we have better options in Goodwin and Lamb. Early in the season there were just as many DFA posts about him as there were against Williams. What did Williams get, 10 AB's, before they DFA'd him ? Luckily that didn't happen with Lamb and later the Sox picked up Goodwin.

I know all that but so what ? Don't you understand that each victory THIS SEASON could be the key to ending up with the best record in baseball or in the AL ? That means home field advantage in the playoffs and a possible win in the World Series. Now isn't the time to play him every day . He'll remain on the team . He'll get plenty of AB's against RHP still because he has all season even though he's a total liability when playing against them offensively and defensively. He'll get plenty of AB's against RH next year too. He isn't going anywhere. Treat him just like you would any other guy who sucks at the moment. Mercedes, Leury, Hamilton, Mendick whoever . Give Engel, Goodwin, and Lamb their shots now because Andrew Vaughn's development is secondary to winning and right now they do not stroll in the park hand in hand if your goal is the World Series. It's amazing to me when people say Lamb is a liability in the OF to say he doesn't deserve more playing time when there is more evidence piling up every day that Vaughn is also a liability in the OF and when you aren't hitting you had better play some great defense or you are pretty useless. That describes Vaughn now playing left field against RHP. Engel Goodwin and Lamb have combined for 9 HR's in the small amount of AB's they have had so far, not all against RHP but 7 of them have . I'll take my chance with that and the much better defense from Engel and Goodwin in LF.

I meant everyone on Soxtalk not just you. I never see anyone say OK I changed my mind you convinced me with your super longs posts about any particular subject. Early in the year I suggested Nick Williams be given a chance in like a couple of starts over Vaughn. Didn't even suggest he play a lot but just given a chance. I was lambasted in every way possible. Where are all those people now when Vaughn has a wRC+ of 38 against RHP ? Even now people still want Vaughn to play every day. And every time I bring it up all I get is "not this again" ! and laugh emoji's as if I have no right to bring up how so many wanted to humiliate me for having the gall to suggest Vaughn might not be all that against RHP so early in the season when Vaughn fever was at an All-time high. Now there is no legitimate argument to play Vaughn against RHP and many more posters here have come to realize that but people still want to be petty about it. It takes a big man to say what you said when the internet emboldens people to be dicks as much as they want to be. I want to win the World Series and I want the best players possible to play as much as possible against RHP and LHP. Vaughn might be the best player on the Sox against LHP but against RHP for now he's among the worst.

Why not us ? Not the Sox (Reinsdorfs) MO. We'll be lucky to add an extra $10M for the rest of the year on any pieces we trade for combined. That's another reason why Hahn said they will wait and assess. It's wise to do that but also the longer you wait the cheaper the player becomes. Paying the prorated rate of a players salary for 2 months is less than the prorated rate for 3 months.