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Beautiful throw by LuGon and nonchalance by Collins . Don't know if that slowed Seager down at all.

Was trying to show everyone I don't hate Vaughn !

Update: 2 hits, 3 RBI, on base with an error, 1 walk , 3 runs scored I got 4 total times on base and a lot more !

SO nothing at the deadline last year when we probably make the playoffs And you want no deals when you make the playoffs 2 times in a row for the 1st time in our franchise history ? I would call that unacceptable. Hahn was right . I'll paraphrase: Chances to win are sacred and they should be treated as such.

To trade him for the best deal they can get. Or do a 3 way deal with another team and a prospect from the Sox with a prospect from another team and Rodon goes to the 3rd team ? Thanks for asking even though I made 2 different posts in the thread that explained it but it makes the thread longer You get a thank you emoji !

Update: I will take on base 4 times. Got a hit, on base with an error ,and a walk so far with 2 RBI and 1 R scored .

Guy in the stands yelling right center was right !

I got 1 ! Just missed another one. I was a bit ambitious for a 7 inning game.

Yes they are now. Just had to clear the 1st game info out. Try leaving the app , going to another app , then going back to MLB app.

2 hits for Mercedes and 2 for Vaughn = Sox Win !!

Congrats Bama. My daughter had a boy who just turned 1 June 23rd. Is he your 1st grand child ?

Your best pitcher who has pitched 42 innings combined the last 2 years. How many innings do you think he is capable of this yr ? He's already pitched 79 innings and the season isn't half over. If he had pitched 150 Innings last year you could reasonably expect 175-200 IP this year. He pitched 8 innings last year. Do the math . Unless he is monitored closely and shut down for a month or longer this year like Kopech he isn't going to make it through the playoffs and if he does he won't be the same pitcher he is now . Maybe Kopech can pick up the slack but if you can also get Gallen there's your replacement for Rodon this year and Lynn next year if his arm holds up. If it doesn't you still have him through 2026 so you can still get a few years of him healthy .

Why not Rodon and whoever for Zac Gallen and Escobar ? Sure it's crazy to think about. But Rodon is gone next year and his health for the rest of the year and throughout the playoffs is questionable. Gallen's health is also questionable. He missed part of spring training with a stress fracture in his pitching arm and just missed a month and a half for a partial UCL tear. Today is his 1st start since then. AZ might be wise to trade him now before TJ surgery. However he doesn't become a FA until 2026. What if the Sox wanted to wait on a trade for Escobar to see how Gallen pitches today or another start after today ? Lets say his arm holds up for 2 starts it's still at risk considering a partial tear of the UCL just doesn't heal in 1.5 months . Then there's the stress fracture earlier so his pitching arm is taking quite a beating. Any trade with AZ might also take a bit longer because their GM is on leave because of his wife's illness and they brought in Allard Baird a former GM and expanded the role of the Asst. GM. Trading Gallen would be a big decision for them . Also would be a big decision for the Sox to trade Rodon so they could stipulate that the Dbacks can trade Rodon to any team except the Indians as part of the trade. Any way would be quite ballsy on the part of both teams so not likely to happen . Most think trading Rodon would be a concession speech for this season but it doesn't have to be that way. Have to think outside the box some times.

Keep an eye on the Gallen start today for Az.

Oh damn forgot that yesterdays game was someone elses thread and I made a thread for todays game but if they win the suspended game that wasn't right of me . They can delete my thread and change yesterdays thread as you suggested. But if that is your thread you can edit it yourself to change the title just as you would edit any post.

No starting line ups yet. Looks like Keuchel will begin the suspended game. Go you White Sox !

The way I look at it is you go into next year without Rodon and Lynn. That's a kick in the butt of a way to start the off season. No matter who you get at the trade deadline a lot of the Sox chances to win depend on Rodon's arm holding up , which in itself is dicey and Eloy and Robert returning to form another dicey proposition. Chances of winning the World Series are slim every year even with a very good team. Chances improve for the coming years if you can add another quality SP when you are losing 2 of them. Plus next year hopefully Eloy and Robert can stay healthy.

Now that's what I'm talking about.

Oh yea just trading him would be very controversial but if he's traded to the NL then or any playoff team in the AL that team could be eliminated before the Sox face him or if the Sox face him and lose to him they could still win the series.

However he is also going to have to be watched very closely. You can't automatically say he's our 1 guy in a long playoff run because his combined IP for the last 2 years is 42 innings. Can you reasonably expect him to pitch 150+ innings this year ? At some point this year he's going to have to be Il'd like Kopech has been in order to get him through the playoffs. If he can be replaced with another pitcher of high quality it's intriguing.

I've seen this somewhere before. Oh yea it was me in my fun idle speculation last night. I know people will say it's dumb but it's actually not. What if the Sox are working on getting another starter right now. Lets say Zac Gallen in a trade with Escobar. Now if you keep Rodon obviously he walks as a free agent and you get nothing which is why it sucks to luck into Rodon being good and not be able to cash in on your luck by trading him because he is a main cog for this year. But if you trade him , you get Gallen to replace Rodon. Obviously you'd also have to make a pretty good offer besides Rodon, like Crochet and Madrigal or Crochet and 2 prospects. Diamondbacks then trade Rodon for whatever they can get then. Hard to say exactly what Rodon and Gallen are worth with Rodon a mystery about how many innings he is capable of pitching this year and Gallen just coming off the IL with the partial tear in his UCL and a stress fracture in his pitching arm earlier. Could be a 3 way trade. Sounds pretty tempting to me.

What if the Sox are working on getting Gallen and Escobar? Now that would be cool ! There was the old Gallen for Madrigal talk before even if it was made up. Maybe the Sox want to see how Gallen pitches today after coming off the IL for a partial UCL tear. That's not good. Tommy John surgery in his future would reduce the price for him. He also had a hairline stress fracture in his throwing arm during spring training.

I'm just idly speculating if something big actually happens. 1st off skeptical on something big and 2. Not likely with another contender. I mean we could talk about something big involving their injured guys like Eloy, Robert or Madrigal. Anything I bring up is just fun to talk about not anything that's likely to happen. Of course people are going to say they aren't doing this or that but what if they do ? That's the fun part. People will hate it of course but is it that impractical to think the Sox give up impending free agents or guys with injury histories to help the team this year or in the next few years ? That doesn't mean giving up on this year since it depends on what you get back.

I don't think he was talking about a trade with the Jays , just that his source with the Jays hears the Sox are very active unless the expect something big soon is actually involving the Jays . They need pitching and with Springer back maybe can afford to give up hitting. Hard to imagine the Sox giving up one of Lynn or Rodon to a contender but if the tradeoff is mutually beneficial to each others needs who knows. Maybe the Sox just put Kopech into the rotation then. If you give up one of Lynn or Rodon wouldn't you think it would be Rodon and would the Jays actually want him since he's also a free agent with a dubious injury history and questionable with innings pitched limits making his 2nd half /playoff contributions somewhat hazy ?