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Did anyone hear the original Jesse Rogers report that talked about TA? Because the only thing I"ve seen is from aggregator Daniel Greenberg...who sucks.

FIRE BLOOM, THE GLOOM OF DOOM

His transcript reads like a teenager caught in a lie creating an overly elaborate excuse. The “are you accusing Grandal of lying?” ?

The fire Hahn thread here was from last July. The idea that people were fine with him in spring training. I really enjoy when people make up a fake person, make them a fake group, and then lecture that group in a post.

the comments make sense when you assume they shipped out the people that weren't "pulling in the same direction", i.e. a commitment to living fat and lazy and not airing public grievances. These guys made the mistake of wanting to win instead of just wanting to not do things that suck like attending meetings.

ugh this audio is brutal

you weren't even born and I was only around for the second half so I'd say for our lifetimes the sox take the cake for embarrassing atmospheres. One thing I didn't include was the 2007 locker room story of the blow-up doll. But didn't seem like it fit like these s%*# shows.

TA is right to call out Grandal, but it's also true that it really isn't a "no-wrong" situation when calling them out is just embarrassing them in front of their teammates. But Grandal hit a coworker...just can't happen. I know it's baseball, and there's some leniency. But, not reading this and seeing an innocent party. Just a trash org.

woof, being forced to remember 2016 is depressing. If we want confirmation nothing will change, in roughly 5 months there was: - laroche - sale scissors - Guaranteed Rate partnership. The third bullet may seem small now, but at the time it was a huge joke with the down arrow logo. Was three straight whammys of the sox being a national punchline. The team was bad but not this bad. But Hahn/KW were strong as ever. All that happened was Robin wasn't renewed.

See to me this sounds so much like 2016. I feel like I have very much experienced this.

Maybe i'm too familiar with white sox... but has any other clubhouse come close to these stories now? 2016 spring training / drake laroche as cult leader 2016 season Chris Sale scissors 2023 season kenyon middleton dragging dirty laundry 2023 season TA/Grandal fight exposed the only other team I can remember on this level was that one terrible 2012 red sox year that fired Tito? was that 2012?

i'm sorry guys. I'm gonna wait a bit on this one because I think Shane Riordan is a moron. He's probably going to be wrong in one aspect that makes the fact that he's wrong worse.

True chef's kiss moment was bringing Eaton back and macsands was alluding it was for more fire and leadership. As most on board expected, he was DFAd a few months in.

This'll just be "Drake is our leader" pt 2

Pretty sure you could trade Moncada for Anthony Rendon meep meep

I recommend paying for BA. Their hot sheets are helpful. At this point, you'll read names, think they are interesting, see an update on them months later and think it's the first time you read their name.

It is always funny to look back. I still think sox should have won that series. The As weren't good. But the guy in the deciding game went throughlike 7 pitchers in an inning and not one could throw a strike. He had to rely on our rookie pitcher who was starting to run on fumes, and then leaned too much on our same-year-draft pick to throw an extended run. But then everyone else in the bullpen failed. It wasn't a good strategy for a must win game, yet...at that point we only had Giolito and Keuchel as any start of starting pitcher. Kind of a roster construction issue. Just a ton of young pitching on that team, and of course, a Hahn-special of getting Gio Gonzalez for a final retirement tour. That said, I think Ricky was really good for keeping a bunch of players thrown to the wolves to keep a good attitude and keep coming at it. I also think Steverson actually got MOncada to change his approach in 2019, so he was listening to someone. But I'm not sure Ricky could have made the shift successfully to getting a bunch of players who know they belong to move together.

What we need is to lobby to pass a bill that would raise a huge tax that targets Reinsdorf's estate very specifically to make it more expensive to pass down after death than to sell the team now. Call it like the Really Ethical Investment iNto Sportfranchise Developments and Operations to Reduce Failing at Thirtyfifth And Xields Act

I think sox fans instinctively rallied around Tim a lot and at some point it's like "ok but he's not rallying around us".

I too had never known. Sad. I really don't watch anymore though. Rather enjoyed our previous 100 loss season, would watch all the time. Still see our lineups sometimes and think "hey that's not so bad" because they were our dream lineups from 2018. Then you realize they are all hitting like a .600 ops.

One thing that seemed so apparent last year - and again, not trying to take heat of either manager - was once the lock out was over, it seemed like our players had just been on straight up vacation for weeks. As fans, we were burning all offseason, desperate to see the team assert its place as a real contender after such a thud of a post-deadline team. They came back and it seemed like they had just picked up a baseball for the first time in weeks. Definitely not what astros, dodgers, rays or guardians players were doing as they prepared for the year.

Don't get me wrong, he's bad. But even if there were rules, i'm not sure if we see that much change. I obviously did expect things like "don't sleep during a game" to be enforced. But sox keep thinking "oh maybe if we bring in a respected vet" it'll change things. Oh we need a more checked in manager. It's a thru and thru problem at this point. It's players, it's management, it's GM, it's owner. There's laziness at all levels. You try to fix one the finger will come at you.

If you expect a manager to go in and solve all the longstanding problems with your team, that's already a symptom of a bad org. Managers only power over players can be playing time. When the front office is so clueless on what a winning org looks like, and so clearly hostage-taken as soon as they hand out a contract, this is what you get. But a front office can DFA you. A front office can trade you. A front office can also influence your reputation among other employers. People say Moncada's contract is untradeable. That's not true. It is likely true for the white sox though, who would be totally fine just waiting for 3 more years for it to be over. Because what does it matter?

I took my kids to family fest yesterday. If any of you do this, some advice from me... I struggle to get anywhere on time with my kids...and that's a problem with this event because they shut down the activity stuff pretty early. I assumed we'd watch some practice then go play...bad idea. In reality, the 11:30-12:30 part of practice is what you can gear for, and you can do the activities from 10:30-11:30. That said we still had fun getting to see soldier field with them and them seeing Fields and Kmet - whom for some reason they are obsessed with. I think his name is just easy to say and remember. But considering games are too expensive, I think this was a better family experience than pre season game - and way cheaper.