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QUOTE (beautox @ Dec 11, 2016 -> 01:24 AM) Jones and Frazier to the dodger for Bellinger, Barnes and Lux. Robertson for Braxton garrett and Tyler kolek just looking over the marlins system man its barely a tick above the angels..wow It really is awful, and unexpected from a franchise that has been so good at finding stars.

Yeah, most interesting stuff was giolito but it also reinforced for me buckets line that deals getting done soon depends on other GMs not Hanna willingness to continue rebuild

QUOTE (Blackout Friday @ Dec 10, 2016 -> 08:56 PM) Can't really listen at the moment. Can anyone provide quick notes on anything worth noting? Much obliged. Last time I promised to do this the site went down I may listen tonight and will post notes. Good thing to listen to while doing dishes

Good for Angels.

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Dec 10, 2016 -> 08:55 PM) Probably could have had Devers if we paid Moncada's $30M? How many prospects is that $30M worth. I have seen nothing from DD that they cared at all about that money. They just couldn't justify trading both of their 3b options.

I love that Rockies offer. All players are far enough off that their risk is legitimate for Rockies to consider but talent so huge it's compelling for white sox.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/redsox/2...l?event=event12 I made a joke that it was unlikely the sox backed off divers and then just offered up basabe/diaz, but it looks like that's actually how it happened. Always funny to realize that the front offices have their own way to measure prospects, not looking at the BA top 100. So if Basabe and Diaz have a good year next year, let's remember our scouts.

Yes to bell/jones. Are you asking in a "Q/Jones for glasnow, meadows, bell" type way?

Reed Martes Tucker sounds like the deal that will happen to me. But very nervous re Reed

Shocked JJ Cooper said he wouldn't do that deal if he's the Astros.

That is the exact package I'd want from Yanks, but I think Cashman would get killed for doing it. They gained a lot of goodwill in those trades with their fans.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 10, 2016 -> 08:40 AM) http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/12/2018...ree-agents.html That is the list. It isn't a bad list but I do think except for Harper, Machado, and probably Kershaw, it is a bit overrated. I don't think the Sox have even a slight shot at Harper or Kershaw. JR saving his money until then might be able to shock the world and get Machado, but the odds have to be huge against it. Donaldson will be 33 in 2019, which is almost considered a fossil these days. Compare that class to this year though, lots of help especially Bullpen wise

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 10, 2016 -> 08:01 AM) Nightengale is very confident he gets moved. He thinsk they are determined to trade him but they think as highly of him as they do Sale. He expects up to 7 more players traded. He did mention that White Sox would have the payroll to be very active throughout with the 2018 Free Agent class. Yes this exactly. He also said Hahn wanted a rebuild as early as July ' 15. Also he guessed Astros would trade for Q but wasn't based on actual sources just fit.

Soxtalk, because I care about you, I'm taking a hit for the team and am going to listen to the buster olney podcast for the Nightengale bits on Quintana. I will report back.

Yeah, Peter's scouting report from futuresox looks so much like Saladino's did, except Saladino showed some power and Peter has very little.

The Nation put out a long editors note to that really stupid mtv news article but I'm having trouble getting the images here from the tweet and the nation isn't loading for me

The astros haven't been tied to EE in a week, not sure its worth wondering their contingency plans for something that isn't likely.

That's adorable, guys.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Dec 9, 2016 -> 01:50 PM) I think you need to hold on to Jones and let him close for a while, then try to move him for a return similar to what the Phillies got for Giles. I'm open to that but only after we see what happens after Jansen signs.

I really like the note about how he was striking out looking a lot, seems like a symptom of going through Boston's great system of developing prospects. I hope he takes it with him and learns how to find his pitch.

Was debating making a thread on this subject, but I disagree with premise. But here is Olney on subject: http://www.espn.com/blog/buster-olney/insider/post?id=15322 and Lindbergh on his podcast was saying he thinks sox could stop now and maybe even compete this year. I ... disagree.

Do we see Diaz getting pushed at all or more of a Winston-Salem guy? Would be funny if him and Leyer were together after getting that comp.

I don't think Abreu's market is that good anyway, and he's such a head down put in your work type guy.

It is one of the reasons why I subscribed to WaPo after the election and not NYTimes.

QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Dec 9, 2016 -> 11:33 AM) Not sure if it was posted but baseball tonight suggested a trade: Houston gets: Q Sox get: Martes, Reed, Daz Cameron They went around the table and said who says no and everyone agreed it's was a perfect trade. I know everyone wants Tucker but would you be okay with this? They said Martes is the best prospect so we would get another top prospect plus Reed and Cameron (who's Mike Cameron's son). Ha, I was reading this and I think I assumed Tucker was in it and thought maybe. Hard pass for me.