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QUOTE (scs787 @ May 31, 2015 -> 05:13 PM) Dream scenario if that last post I made was possible.... Sign Green. Use the MLE on Jason Smith. Draft Tyus Jones. Rose/Jones/Moore Green/Snell Butler/McBuckets Pau/Niko Noah/Smith If guys like Snell and Dougie turn into good shooters that team would have range for days. Hinrich will certainly grab his player option.

gasol is obviously awesome and an upgrade but what a ridiculous team structure to have pau noah marc and niko. Not sure why he was even mentioned.

QUOTE (raBBit @ May 31, 2015 -> 03:57 PM) How is any lineup sustainable? There's always turnover. I don't think young impact players are some new market inefficiency. They've always been important. The Sox just suck at doing it consistently so it gets magnified around here. If you are bad at something that's important you better be excellent the other important things. The sox had a great run with free agents, now they have not. The sox had a good run of acquiring pro ready prospects and plugging them in, they have still done pretty well here. The problem with relying on FA is obvious, when you are already paying players full value you get much less when you try to trade them. Drafting and developing players just makes everything easier, and the sox who are good at pitching but horrendous at hitting, are seeing what happens.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ May 31, 2015 -> 02:36 PM) Chuck is a great pro. I'm liking him more and more . Swirsky is in his 50's but compared to Hawk he's a spring chicken. Nice to see some youthful energy in the booth. Also, I frankly like the "I don't know what I'm talking about STeve, so why don't you explain this a bit more" schtick. I liked when he challenged STone on the Batting Average, it was an interesting exchange.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ May 31, 2015 -> 02:33 PM) This is Otano's third go around in the DSL and the first two were pretty terrible. I would keep my expectations low with him despite his toolset. I feel like it's easy to keep expectations low with international signings.

QUOTE (kev211 @ May 31, 2015 -> 02:32 PM) Chuck and stone are very enjoyable to listen to. This is our glimpse into post-hawk, and I have to say, having a true play by play guy is making these games so much better.

If gibson is back, this is the small lineup we are talking about. Rose/Snell/Butler/Miro would be really interesting here.

I'd be shocked if that's possible with BUtler coming up. http://www.todaysfastbreak.com/nba-east/ce...egy-head-coach/ some good reading. Re: J4L

Here we go

Wow, this looks like real baseball.

Nice play/ base running by avi and laroche

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 31, 2015 -> 01:49 PM) He's always been like that. Wow not sure how I missed that this is carmona. Never ran across that story.

This pitcher is real slow

http://www.baseballamerica.com/online/pros...13/2614702.html Interesting article to review. Will follow Otano this year, yeah 3 ks first game.

QUOTE (Butter Parque @ May 31, 2015 -> 12:29 PM) Wouldn't he be almost 20 by now? I don't think he's there. www.milb.com/player/index.jsp?sid=milb&player_id=642278#/career/R/hitting/2013/ALL He's 19 in July.

Would be shocked if sox went over amount. JR does not seem to like exploiting rules like that.

QUOTE (raBBit @ May 31, 2015 -> 11:43 AM) I know you're just saying you'd like that but I think we can safely limit the Sox to college pitchers. Stephenson's swing is vicious though. Unfortunately, it seems like Harris is their backup plan which sucks for me. Not to throw out a lazy, convenient comparison but he's more of a Broadway/McCulloch type than someone we could get really excited about. Both Kiley McDaniel have alluded to Harris being the back up if Jay/Fulmer (probably were't considering Tate sliding which I still see as remote) there at #8. Law also amped up the Sox-Jay connection last week. Even insinuated that Colorado could craft their offer to Jay around the Sox slot value plus a kicker. This is very real scenario. All depends on what Texas is doing in my mind. They've been hush-hush and could go with any of Bregman/Cameron/Tate. Nothing is ever set in the draft but it seems like your first three picks, with Swanson/Rodgers being interchangeable, are close to consensus at this point. Would be interesting to know how accurate those backup rumors are. It was around this time last year Nola to the sox was all over the place, especially that we'd draft Nola over Kolek. Had Rodon not been there, would be interesting to know if that were true.

QUOTE (scs787 @ May 31, 2015 -> 12:58 PM) A lot of people want Jo gone, but in your opinion wouldn't he fit the bill as that point forward perfectly? Watching highlights, looks like Niko could be similar to Niang. Though Niangs post game looks better. All I know is I really hope they can somehow grab Wes Matthews or Danny Green in FA. If hoiberg is a great coach I'd like him to creat an offense that works best for this personnel, not for his offense.

QUOTE (raBBit @ May 31, 2015 -> 12:34 PM) Channeling my inner Dick Allen, the Sox lineup in the 2008 playoffs featured zero players the White Sox drafted. Alexei was the only player that had played only for the Sox. The value of prospects seems to have changed. I used to feel confident that we could find a CQ, Uribe, etc ( worse examples being Jimenez, Harris), but they are so expensive. This is the formula Hahn used but avisail, eaton and Davidson took some legit talent to acquire, so... It all goes back to drafting.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ May 31, 2015 -> 10:39 AM) While I know it's not just offense, the Sox have six regulars and two bench players with negative WAR. And pretty much everyone else but Avi & Beckham is underperforming as well. What we're seeing is unsustainable and eventually these guys will regress to the mean. The question is how much that mean has dropped this year, as guys like Alexei & Flowers may not be able to replicate their prior numbers. Regardless, I've never seen the entire lineup underperform like this in my time as a Sox fan. Remember when the sox had near 200 home runs annually? I am wondering if well even finish with more than 100

Agreed that this team will never be able to get into the playoffs until we can start developing position players. I could not articulate it well enough, but throughout the offseason one reason I was so excited for this year is it felt like it would define whether Hahns new tenure was working. At the time I was confident it was and would... But now we are staring in the face a team with slumping pitching that I'm confident will turn, but a bad defensive and offensive team with a woeful lack of power. At the same time this is year 3 of a GM that put added resources into turning our farm system around. This is a big year for these prospects, and it is a bit scary to see the results. Up and down the system, over and over, same story. Our future players continue to struggle with contact, have high k rates and can't walk. No one has failed, but they are just fine. And no one ever seems to come out of nowhere and develop on hitting side. So I don't know where he goes from here. But buddy bells stranglehold on player development is terrifying. My only hope is he leaves voluntarily.

Wow. Just seeing Biden news.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ May 31, 2015 -> 12:25 AM) ISU wasn't a Final Four team. NBA Championship >>> NCAA Championship. Being a legend in Chicago >>> Legend in a college town. That's probably his thought process. Coaching at highest level too.

Was at a wedding. During the fathers speech downloaded nbc sports app and turned on game and a geico ad auto plays at full volume. Not a good look.

QUOTE (DBAHO @ May 29, 2015 -> 08:46 PM) Scott Skiles gets hired by Orlando. I don't know if Hennigan really even wanted him, it was more so from the owners the Devos Family that Skiles had to come in as the new coach (being a former favourite and all). Now the interesting part will be to see what happens with Tobias Harris here, those 2 did not get along whatsoever during their time in Milwaukee. One thing to look forward to is Skiles is hilarious.