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QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Nov 2, 2005 -> 09:39 PM) I assume we're talking Chad Tracy here. The answer is quite simple. You bring Frank back, and he's 100% from day one, Tracy then becomes a super utility player, playing atleast 4, perhaps 5 positions for the Sox. His bat is that good. Thomas doesn't come back 100%, and you have a stud LHB for anywhere high in the order. I like Dye hitting 5th, for some reason...I think Tracy-PK-Dye would be just f***in ridiculously solid. You add Thomas anywhere in that order, be it 2nd or 6th or 3rd or 4th or 5th...wherever...and you are unbelievably good and deep offensively. LOL, Frank hitting 2nd?? I remember when Manuel did that for a few games, good times.

I guess I should be happy I dont get this in carbondale, huh?

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Nov 2, 2005 -> 09:35 PM) I wasn't arguing about 2007 results Neither was I.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Nov 2, 2005 -> 09:29 PM) Jon Garland - career best in wins, career best in ERA, career best in WHIP, career best in IP. Jose Cotnreras - ditto Garland Dustin Hermanson - career best ERA out of the pen, career best WHIP out of the pen Neal Cotts - career best ERA, career best WHIP, career best damn near everything. I don't view his as much as a career year as much as I do a huge step in the right direction. Cliff Politte - career best ERA and career best WHIP Offensively...no one had a career year. That doesn't mean players didn't have career years Arthur Rhodes, making about $4 mill a year, coming off a horrible year, in his mid to late 30s, was part of a package for one of the more underrated catchers in the game, and was then traded for Roids Lawton, who was one of the best leadoff hitters in the NL for the first 4 months of the season, regardless of steroid use or not. Never heard of that Cotnreras dude but he'll even be better next season imo. I think Jon regresses a bit but still has an era under 4. If dustin is healthy he'll still be damn good, cliff scares me a bit going into next season so we'll have to see how that works out. Neal is a stud, period. Plus we're going to get a run or more off the era of our 5th starter this year, have Bobby Jenks for a full season, we WILL upgrade from Damaso, el duque is probably going to the pen where he proved he can be very effective. Even without any major changes if we sign Paul I think we can be better, no doubt in my mind.

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Nov 2, 2005 -> 09:20 PM) I think Dye and Konerko were good in the 3 and 4 spot. (when that's how they were aligned, which wasn't until the end of the season when we caught fire.) Too bad they weren't there all year. I think Dye will have another great year if he hits in front of Paul. This OBP stuff kills me. Sabermetrics nor stats don't win. Remember, only one stat matters: W I agree, but if we can find a guy with a .800 obp then I'm all for it.

Here's the thing though Kap: When you can throw JC, Buehrle, Garland, and Garcia out there..hell Bmac might crack these top 4 next year, anyways when you have those starting pitchers you're going to have a legit shot to win it all every year.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Nov 2, 2005 -> 08:10 PM) Minnesota will be better, and you know Cleveland is only going to improve (especially if they re-sign Millwood). They gotta resign Millwood, Fatass, and Howry. If we could re-sign Paul, get rid of Damaso, add Myers or Eyre I'll take our team over theirs or Minny's, again.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Nov 2, 2005 -> 08:10 PM) But I think everyone here knows me and you ahve been talking him up for the past year or so. Maybe you but not dbaho.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Nov 2, 2005 -> 07:52 PM) I believe this was the thinking that got the Angels into trouble in 2003. Not to say it won't work for us, but something to think about. As long as we add a #3 hitter, preferably (IMO) one wearing #35, we'll have upgraded. This seems to be the popular opinion but we're not the Angels, that team didnt have near the starting pitching this team does. If you guys want some changes that's absolutely fine but don't have the 03 Angels be the reason.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Nov 2, 2005 -> 07:36 PM) Because, frankly, they won't catch lightning in a bottle twice without a solid #3. They know this. And for the first time in years and years, they have payroll flexibility. I'll take my chances with this pitching staff instead of trading one of our pitchers away for a 3 hitter.

QUOTE(wilmot825 @ Nov 2, 2005 -> 07:27 PM) Marte-Not here El Duque-Bullpen Frank-dh Willie Harris-GROUP FOUR LOL Manny-In the monster

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Nov 2, 2005 -> 07:20 PM) You have to give up something to get something. And this year's free agent market SUCKS. I agree. None of our starting pitchers are going anywhere I'll guarantee you that. The only regular I see as possible trade bait is Aaron but we shall see.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Nov 2, 2005 -> 07:09 PM) I'd imagine that a couple of "favorites" will most likely move to get that OBP guy we all wanted on July 31. I really doubt that.

I don't think there is a site I hate more then BP. Nice of you to post that stuff for others though.

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Nov 2, 2005 -> 05:35 PM) Raw talent I'd put Gio up against McCarthy. Look at his filthy numbers. Plus he is a lefty. My main concern is health. This season overall: 13-6, 2.82 era, 131 innings, 163 K's, 8 HR, 47 walks, .205 avg against, 97 hits allowed, 4 wild pitches Health is going to be the main concern with Gio forever.

QUOTE(joeynach @ Nov 2, 2005 -> 05:44 PM) Umm Geoff Blum hes a FA. I want him back ask the ultimate utility man. Other than that maybe Scott Hatteberg or Erubiel Durazo to fill in at DH, but i want paulie as my 1B. From Trades I would love one of these types,; Huff, Overbay, Hillenbrand, Tracy. They are all young with a hell of a lot of positive.

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Nov 2, 2005 -> 05:30 PM) no Just making sure.

QUOTE(iWiN4PreP @ Nov 2, 2005 -> 05:27 PM) wtf? lawton? he wasnt in the playoffs and lmao @ this, cubbies just get owned again Yankees.

I want Mike Myers real bad...does he count??

Lawton has been suspended for the first 10 games of the 06 season.

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Nov 2, 2005 -> 04:19 PM) After Gio Gonzalez dominates at Birmingham the first half of next year, he'll be the surefire No. 1 pitching prospect in the Sox organization, if he's not already. I've got him No. 1 on my overall prospect list. You still counting Brandon as a prospect or no?

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Nov 2, 2005 -> 04:22 PM) Had to say that just for you... In all seriousness, wasn't there talk that Frank needed some cash after his last divorce? Certainly not his main motivation for playing, but some guys do hold on too long just to continue making money. If he can't stay healthy consistently, why shouldn't he retire? Some guys do actually love the game.

Hell ya.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Nov 2, 2005 -> 04:07 PM) Brian Anderson. Put him in the Carl Everett role from this year - spelling Frank every 2nd day, and spelling an outfielder every 3rd day. He'll pick up somehting like 400 at bats, plus or minus 100, improve our bench, improve our outfield defense, and improve our team speed. That's way to much jerking around of a young player. Anderson is either going to be starting in chicago in cf or some other major league team imo. The Frank situation is interesting and really hard for me to come to a strict conclusion. If he's brought back we need to have a backup plan to be ready to step in if and when Frank goes down again. I mean it was just in 04 that Frank was hitting the ball pretty damn well before going down. On the other hand, there's a good chance he's going to get injured again so it's really not a smart move to bring him back. I guess if I'm kenny I try to get a younger number 3 hitter that can dh, if not then bring back Frank only if there is a good backup in place. Tough decision here for Kenny.

QUOTE(Greg Hibbard @ Nov 2, 2005 -> 02:51 PM) "who f***ing cares" ^