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QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Jan 31, 2005 -> 11:03 PM) It was the #9, 7, 5, 3, and 1 play on the SC top ten. That was ridiculous, absolutely nuts.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2004 @ Jan 31, 2005 -> 10:55 PM) Hopefully it's Burnitz. I think that's who it'll be, I just don't want it to be Huff, I like and respect Aubrey to much for that.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jan 31, 2005 -> 10:06 PM) Still, though... If his pitches were so straight, wouldn't he have gotten lit up in AAA too? I'm not trying to compare the majors to AAA, but would Felix have gotten hit a little harder at Charlotte? I mean -- his K/BB ratio was sick -- and in a good size of starts, too. I'll just say this. I realize his stuff isn't as electric as one would like. But -- he has good control. And I know that didn't show that in the majors, but he's got control. When you're able to spot a 91 MPH fastball where you want it, that's a huge difference. He also has a real good changeup, too. If a guy can spot his low-90s fastball, as well as change speeds good enough on his change (which is what I happen to believe Felix did at Charlotte), he can start... And Jim, I know you said he doesn't like to throw inside. I know this isn't going to really represent my argument well, because I'm basically picking-and-choosing what backs up my argument -- but -- I was the Oakland game sometime in late August, early September. IIRC, Felix got hit pretty hard the first three innings. And then -- for God-knows what happened, but something clicked. I commented to my brother about it, but he was throwing up and in, backing the hitters off the plate, throwing low and away, and hitters started looking silly up there. I saw a totally different pitcher up there, one throwing with confidence, one throwing really, really well. And, I was in the LF/CF bleachers, so I had a real good look at his pitch location. I'm not saying Felix is going to end up amounting to an ace or even a two in this league, but honest to God, I believe the kid can be a good three/four -- and I'd tell you that if I was looking you straight in the eyes, believe it or not... Keith, you make some very good points, I'll say I agree with some and I disagree with some. Like I said the thing that bothers me the most about Felix is how straight his pitches are. You brought up how good is changeup was, he hung that pitch a lot while up in the bigs--maybe because of nerves, maybe he was just overthrowing causing him to hang it a bit more then he normally does. Felix obviously has good control although he didn't display it in the majors. His fastball is so straight that he's going to have to be absolute pin point to be successful in this thing and you know what he's proven in the minors that he could be. I think eventually he'll turn into a decent number 5 pitcher once he relaxes a bit and gets that control back that he displayed in the minor leagues, jmo.

QUOTE(JimH @ Jan 31, 2005 -> 07:41 PM) They have 10 days from what, last Thursday to do something with him. So I'd expect to hear something late this week or early next. I am in the big time minority here but I hope they can get him signed to a minor league deal. He was not that good (wild) for much of the year and at the beginning he wasn't healthy, did not have his velo. Even his wife said he wasn't all the way back, met her in Tucson. That game he threw vs. Detroit really stuck in my mind, I watched him very closely. I realize one game is not the be all end all. But this guy is not afraid, he is a bulldog. Granted it was Detroit but they couldn't touch him, his fastball was live, the slider nasty and the offspeed stuff did the job. Big plus ... he throws inside. Sox need more guys like that. Grilli doesn't give in. I know most here hate this guy but I hope they work out a deal to keep him. He is starting pitching insurance. I am 100 percent with you. I like Grilli's stuff and as of right now I think he's a better starting pitcher then Felix is and I've been saying that for quite a while. As you mentioned he hasn't been completely healthy and that allows for some loss of velocity, however when you're not fully healthy sometimes you don't have the control you'd normally have. Jason's fastball has some life to it and if he can locate a bit better I don't think he's that bad, either way he'd provide some depth as a starting pitcher, imo.

QUOTE(ChiSoxyGirl @ Jan 31, 2005 -> 05:46 PM) Sorry to bump such a sad thread, but I thought I would add to its list of thoughts/prayers/concerns. My best friend from highschool just found out the tumor on her heart, previously diagnosed as benign is actually a form of stage 3 or 4 lymphoma. It came as a huge shock to all of use, she's only 22. So, if you could please keep in your thoughts and/or prayers and send her some healthy vibes that would be much appreciated... Definitely, I wish her the best and hopefully everything turns out for the best.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Jan 31, 2005 -> 05:45 PM) You see the trade someone came up with on bbb? BULLS TRADE: Chris Duhon, Adrian Griffin. UTAH TRADES: Raja Bell, 2nd round pick. TRADE ACCEPTED We would need him if we faced the celtics in the first round. Pssh, dukies=untouchable, seriously though I think Duhon is Skiles type of guy, I don't think Chris is going anywhere.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Jan 31, 2005 -> 05:44 PM) Thing is...what can we trade. Read my first post Honestly, I think they stay put.

QUOTE(Goldmember @ Jan 31, 2005 -> 05:37 PM) agreed. unless the get an offer they can't refuse, than they might, but highly doubtful. Frank Williams for KG????

QUOTE(whitesoxin' @ Jan 31, 2005 -> 04:56 PM) I sent Rob a little piece of my mind. I'll post his response if I get one. Hopefully I do because I titled the e-mail "I really liked your Least Improved Teams List" just so he would open it. What did you say in the email???

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Jan 31, 2005 -> 04:36 PM) Let's assume Maggs signs with Detroit. Let's also assume (and I know some of you think his leg will fall off the second he takes the field, so just humor me here) that he plays 155 games and puts up Maggs type numbers for them. How much better does he make the Tigers? A 2nd place team, a division winner, no difference? I'd say a healthy maggs possibly gets them past the Indians but no where near the sox or twins, imo.

LOL, in his little thing about the a's he calls dye a "pretty good everyday player" but fails to mention his signing with the sox :headshake

QUOTE(AnthraxFan93 @ Jan 31, 2005 -> 04:27 PM) Watched Carla play in 03, watched as balls Rowand was camoping under and making a Fire roasted marshmellows Everett was not even close to getting. My tix were in RCF, got to see that sad excuse for a OF play almsot everyday in 03 (during the 2nd half) Didn't need him then and don't need him now. You fail to mention that Carl was the only guy on our team that year who hit down the stretch in those series against the twins. Carl was our most productive hitter down the stretch that year. I'm sure you won't get an argument from anyone here that Carl should never, ever play centerfield but a healthy Carl is still a very good player.

QUOTE(AnthraxFan93 @ Jan 31, 2005 -> 04:22 PM) How about taking a pay cut and being the Hot Dog Vendor.. Thats about as close to a White Sox team I want him to be.. Your "theory" is saying that Harold baines would be a OF in his hayday with this team.. May I ask what you have against Carl, I assume you just don't like him because Kenny traded for him.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Jan 31, 2005 -> 04:21 PM) If brewers fans do not like his fielding i do not like his fielding. They say he gets really really s***ty reads. I've heard that too from some people but there were a lot of people who said that about Aaron in his first few seasons, like I said I want to watch him play defensively before I make a judgement on his ability in the field.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Jan 31, 2005 -> 04:11 PM) What intangibles? He is not a very good fielder and is not that great of bunter. To be honest with you I don't recall his fielding ability very much, there seems to be different sets of opinions about his fielding though, I want to see him play the outfield before I make that judgement. He can bunt, maybe he's not the greatest bunter in the world but he can do it. He can also score from first on a double, him stealing bases obviously helps a great deal because a ton of times when he gets on he'll be in scoring position, knowing how to leadoff in general, making pitchers think about him when he's on base and not the batter, Scott brings a ton to the table, I know you're not a huge fan of him but I think you'll like him much more as the season goes on but that's jmo. EDIT: By the way I think we're just going to have to agree to disagree on this one, I know where you stand and vice versa

QUOTE(AnthraxFan93 @ Jan 31, 2005 -> 04:06 PM) Rowand I agree with you in regards to Gwety comparing apples and oranges.. That is like comparing who will have a better year Crede or Feilds.. I don't think Frank gets replaced by Carla, Frank comes back healthy Carla is on a one way trip out of a Sox uni , and that my friends is a happy day in soxland. I don't mean Frank necessarily but I wouldn't be surprised if Ozzie keeps the hot bat in the lineup between Carl and Jermaine.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Jan 31, 2005 -> 04:05 PM) Still love the low expectations for a lead-off hitter now a days. .340 obp for a lead-off hitter is garbage. I know, it is all his steals that make up for it right? The stolen bases help...yes, also some of the intangibles he brings plus the fact when he's on base he's going to score a lot of runs just because of his speed. Scott brings a lot to the table and not all of what he brings can be seen statistically.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Jan 31, 2005 -> 03:59 PM) He will have a better year than podesednik. You will see. What do you mean by better year?? It's kind of hard to compare those two but if Scott gets on base at a .340 clip he's going to really help this team. Anyways I believe when Frank comes back Ozzie will keep the hot bat in the lineup he said as much at soxfest, if Carl is swinging the bat well I'm sure he'll find his way in the lineup.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jan 31, 2005 -> 03:54 PM) s***, I'm tempted to take a day of school and come on down. Too bad my spring break is the week before that one. But who needs school anyway. Ditto with spring break being the week before, I miss how they had the season start a week earlier a couple years back when I had spring break.

QUOTE(Steff @ Jan 31, 2005 -> 03:37 PM) Sooooooo.. is Maggs going to Detroit or not..? You're the one with the sources I think this is much further apart then some people are making it out to be but that's jmo.

QUOTE(AnthraxFan93 @ Jan 31, 2005 -> 11:31 AM) Nobody, I would see have the best man from our prospects come up and sit on the bench and fill in for some time, then DH paulie and have Gload play 1b. It might not be the best laid plan but come July time and beyond we have some money to spend and also prospects that can be used past 2006. Beck I do like the idea of having Carl on this team till Frank comes back, and we might get more for him.. I just don't want Carla on this team by AUgust Sept time, esp if we are out of it. Why the heck would you want to hinder the development of our prospects by sitting them on the bench?? Just doesn't make sense.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2004 @ Jan 31, 2005 -> 12:01 AM) lol@rowand, Remember how everybody in here had the Slubs in the series and we were the only two that said they would eventually choke? I believe everybody said we needed to take off our white sox colored glasses and get out of denial. Last years cubs team just reminded me to much of sox teams in the past. Josh, you think 90-95 wins is to many wins to expect from this team. I really believe this team is capable of 95 victories if they can stay healthy.

QUOTE(Man Of Steel @ Jan 31, 2005 -> 11:56 AM) everything i heard on Uribe was that he looked good, not overweight Yup, Juan looked fine at soxfest I don't know where those rumors came from.

QUOTE(Steff @ Jan 30, 2005 -> 10:43 PM) Bad, bad boy... LOL.. Just messin with ya Rowand. Somethings are just more important then school

QUOTE(ihatethecubs @ Jan 30, 2005 -> 10:38 PM) hhaha justin, im missin the whole day, lol. Like I told you I haven't even told my parents yet I have tix for opening day, they're not going to be happy with me missing any school but oh well......