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QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Oct 19, 2011 -> 01:27 PM) go eat some boo berry or count chocula you fascist movie critic QUOTE (PlaySumFnJurny @ Oct 19, 2011 -> 02:13 PM) Miller's Crossing is a great, great film. Look into your heart.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 19, 2011 -> 12:05 PM) http://www.southsideasylum.com/2011/10/mar...on-hunting.html The part about choking a bear had me rolling.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 19, 2011 -> 01:24 PM) Notice the change just since yesterday? http://www.csnchicago.com/blog/whitesox-ta...tm_medium=email It's disappointing that Ozzie thinks people are foolish enough to believe his obvious spin and lies. It's even more disappointing that there are actually people who believe it. QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Oct 19, 2011 -> 01:38 PM) I can only imagine this crazy clubhouse where spies are needed. Rios doing lines off a strippers boobs. AJ and MB playing beer pong. Sale and Beckham pulling 6 ft bongs. Ramirez and Viciedo sacrificing a goat next to their Santeria shrine. JFP riding around naked on a painted pony with a bottle of Wild Turkey in an Indian headdress. And Sergio carrying a little cooler screaming "tamale! tamale!." Oh, the insanity. I can get past the mild racism, as that was hilarious.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Oct 19, 2011 -> 11:34 AM) I took a film class in college that made me appreciate Raising Arizona a lot more for all of the unique things they did with their camerawork. IIRC, they "invented" like 4 different camera shots that had never been done before. Plus, I love Nic Cages character in that movie, such an idiot. Brad Pitt and John Malkovich crack me up in Burn after Reading Pitt was the main reason I hated it.

I'm sorry, but I'm confused. Are these two separate stories?

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 19, 2011 -> 10:47 AM) Even elrockin isn't really defending Ozzie, he's just generally loyal and positive about the team. The only ones defending Ozzie are marty and greg. He's not as blatant, so that's why I used "occasionally" when I referred to him.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 19, 2011 -> 09:34 AM) No, that isn't his job, unless Ozzie has him on the payroll. His job is to report on the White Sox. As he is no longer the manager of the White Sox, Ozzie's name should only appear occasionally. And if he IS going to talk about the tumult that went on between Ozzie, Kenny, Jerry, Coop and whomever else, then his job is to paint a picture - not tell one man's side alone. He is utterly failing at his job, and it is obvious that Ozzie was the only guy who would talk to him, so he knows he is screwed now. ^All of this^ Seriously, why is this even being discussed anymore? It's the board vs. Marty, greg, and occasionally elrockinMT, and they cannot be swayed from their opinion which the rest of the board finds moronic. That's all.

Yes, the branch definitely broke and you could also hear him falling to the ground. EDIT: As much as I dislike cliffhangers, I'd have left all of that until the next episode. Let people think he actually succeeded. And I guess it's not enough to force Gemma on us constantly. Now they have her singing.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Oct 19, 2011 -> 09:12 AM) My order of favorites after the Big Lebowski is Hudsucker Proxy Fargo Raising Arizona True Grit O Brother Where art Thou No country for old men Burn after reading I have seen some of the rest, but those are my tops I hated Burn After Reading, and I'd have to say that Raising Arizona didn't quite do it for me.

I love Miller's Crossing by far the most.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 08:29 PM) Twenty over two years or twenty a year? The latter wouldn't make sense. I envision him getting about 12 a year. I want to see Stewart get a shot. I apparently only saw him when he didn't suck, though. You can't be serious about that question.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 01:19 PM) Ozzie.Guillen.Quit. Ignoring this truth is now an art, apparently. QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 01:32 PM) Good Lord... just become a Marlins fan. Please.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 05:12 PM) Oh, so Kenny didnt know that until Coop told him? If you(not just you Marty, anyone. Ozzie, Cowley, etc) are going to label Coop a rat/snitch, lets talk here about what Coop actually said that could have affected Ozzie in any way. As far as we all know, Ozzie was welcome to come back and coach for his last year of the contract, and he didnt want to do that because he wanted guaranteed money. He spoke to JR about it(which was, in effect, going over his immediate boss to negotiate, which somehow seems ok here), and Jerry, from all accounts, told him he had to play out his final year. Ozzie didnt like that, and went ahead and greased the wheels for the move to Florida. So how exactly does Coop become a rat/snitch here? What exactly could he have told kenny that would have made the above situation happen? What could Coop have possibly said worse than anything Ozzie or Oney have said or tweeted in the past two years? Its as if you think that Coop gave KW some revelation that Ozzie is a verbally irresponsible person and a mediocre manager. We all could see it. KW/Coop isnt the one running around spreading rumors about Ozzie stepping out on his wife, or stories about what happened in the clubhouse. then you add on top of that the Sox having barely .500 years the past 3 seasons, what the hell could coop have possible said or done that Ozzie hasnt said or done himself? Beautiful!

QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 05:07 PM) Why shouldn't KW know everything that goes on in the clubhouse? It's his f***in team. He's the boss. He put of together. If he wants to sit on Konerko's lap in the dugout for every game, he can. Spies? Get the f*** outta here. Ozzie thought he was bigger than the Chicago White Sox. f*** him. Seriously, this. The way Ozzie talks about it, it was an open war between himself and KW and he wanted to be sure that KW had no knowledge about his own team. There's an Ozzie defense in there?

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 02:36 PM) What are we, in high school? "The Chicago White Sox were unable to sign a single FA pitcher because their pitching coach has been deemed a tattletale." Haha, the funny thing is that is almost what he said, verbatim.

QUOTE (Tex @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 05:09 PM) I think "paying their dues" is being overrated here. In politics it's what got Dole and McCain nominations. I don't want them hiring someone from within because he stuck around long enough to "earn it" because he "paid his dues". I believe "paying their dues" is different than having someone with experience and a track record. Paying their dues smacks of me as he's been here ten years, patiently waiting for his chance, so we ought to give it to him. That's why I said "and"

QUOTE (Tex @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 05:05 PM) I'm seeing Marks' next contract in the $20 range. That would be a hometown discount *and* a more than the club would have offered to an equivelent player not named Mark Buerhle. Kind of a meeting in the middle. That's about where I'd see it, too.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 01:39 PM) Stewart needs to start the season at AAA. He's never had a full season above AA and only had about 6 AAA innings before we called him up. He's raw, and not unexpectedly so, since he was only recently converted from relieving to starting by the Blue Jays. He's a good candidate to be the "6th starter" next year, the guy we stash at AAA as a starter to use if Peavy gets hurt or to give Sale some time off in late July when the innings load comes back to hurt him. He has a better set of offspeed stuff than I expected but he doesn't have good control on it yet, that means sometimes he has games like the one against the Twins where he's locating it, and some days he gets shelled because no one swings at anything other than his fastball. I wasn't really impressed with the sink on his 2 seamer just yet either. I'd really like to see that ball become "Heavier" in the forcing ground balls sense. Altogether though, the stuff is possibly there long term but needs some improvement. Philip Humber...I'm genuinely excited about. He might pull a 2004 Loaiza on me, but this is a classic Coop Fixed him case. Suddenly goes from having no confidence in his stuff to throwing strikes, making people look silly, and winning ballgames. His 2nd half was entirely predictable and any manager who wasn't drunk off his tail for the first half could have seen his problem...he never threw more than 140 innings and wasn't stretched out at all, so he'd get past 4-5 innings and his arm would tire out. Then, later in the season, he was genuinely tired until the Sox gave him a rest, then he came back and threw some solid games afterwards. Intelligent use of Humber and realizing where he could/coudln't have been pushed would have made his season look a lot better. But otherwise, there's reason to be excited about him especially since we pushed him to 163 big league innings this year. Let's also not forget that Humber came back in September (after finally being used more sparsely in August due to throwing more innings than he was accustomed to) with a very respectable 4.26 ERA. But he didn't pitch for the 2005 club, so some posters will continue to tear him down.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 11:38 AM) I can see the possibility of a pitcher being traded. I am not sold on considering Quentin and Floyd/Danks as overkill on the roster as the esteemed Balta has posted. I also do not believe that Stewart is ready and what he did with pitching that one-hit masterpeice is just tease us. He was not that good otherwise. He needs time. Fans are to quick to annoint someone like Viciedo, Stewart, Axelrod, et al, the new starter at their respective positions based on a very small sample size. I remind you that as good as we all want to believe Viciedo is or can be he hit only one homer and drove in five runs in his time with the Sox. Many thought he woud power us to the top in no time at all in 2011. I would hope we keep our best performers and not rely on Rios for example of count on Jake Peavy to rebound and be the Cy Young winner he once was. I am not convinved that trading our better players, or our strength if you will, for someone elses possible prospects is going to do it for us. Possibly signing some mid level or role players that are free agents might make more sense. Of course the argument will be that we don't have the money. I just don't buy into the argument that we need wholesale change. Seems that if we do that it is a more a panic move or knee jerk reaction to one bad season for a number of players. I prefer to keep our own better players instead of trading them of and starting over again. Intentionally ignorant and obtuse statements like that make me absolutely fume.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 10:11 AM) 2 things 1) I hope Buehrle is back. 2) I do not like modern nicknames. Why's that? Not original enough for you, W-Fan?

QUOTE (Tex @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 05:01 PM) They seem to be looking at guys with stronger work ethics, and some character, and by character I don't mean the Oz kind. I am liking the direction they are going. This will definitly not be Oz II. They shouldn't just go in the opposite direction, though. This reminds me of the Democrats running Kerry in 2004. Basically their entire campaign was "he's not Bush". Finding someone with differing qualities is a great idea, but make sure there is also some substance to the person.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 02:38 PM) Another inexperienced coach? And one who is a natural hitter anyway? Please no. I love Thome, but we already hired a green Manager, we need to surround him with some experience of some kind. Like Parent? Ugh...

Knowing full well that this would be a "perfect" White Sox hire, I'm going to again say that this job should go to a person who has both experience in teaching players how to hit/fix their mechanics and has paid his dues. With the emergence of some of the younger hitters due seemingly to the work of Laker and/or Manto, one of those guys deserves the chance at the job. I'm sure they won't even be interviewed, though.

Anyone who considers poker to be a sport should be punched in the face. There should be some semblance of physical skill to be considered a sport.