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QUOTE(White Sox Fan For Life @ Apr 20, 2006 -> 07:35 PM) So everyone is agreeing that I should cut off the Buckner part to my paper. his move to Idaho has nothing to do with the curse. It had to do with the asshole fans

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Apr 20, 2006 -> 07:25 PM) How about Gload for Pie? Silvy was talking about trading for Gload this morning, now that you mention it.

QUOTE(White Sox Fan For Life @ Apr 20, 2006 -> 07:08 PM) We are going to get into another long debate like my last thread were we don't really understand one another. So I will be the bigger one and not get into this arguement all over again but I will ask you in your opinion: if you were writing this exact thesis statement paper what would be your 3 main points on how to support curses don't exist in baseball? Well, first off I wouldnt completely discount the other side of the argument, as you are right now. You dont have to believe in curses, but you also have to try to understand why people do believe in curses. And the toughest thing about your paper is that there is no concrete evidence either way. Some people will say "they were just bad" and others will say "That team is cursed". The only "evidence" I can offer you is 3 teams who are 2 of the 3 biggest markets in baseball, failing to win a championship for over 85 years each. I wouldnt write this paper. There are too many intangibles, there is no concrete proof, it is based on belief, which you dont have. Its easy to say "I dont believe", but it isnt easy to say "Even though I dont believe, I am going to try to understand". I understand what you are saying. But I dont think you understand how this plays into the history of this sport, and that is the tough part about this argument.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Apr 20, 2006 -> 07:08 PM) Didn't Nomar get hurt for them on April 20th of last year? So he did! Good memory! http://cubsfansunite.blogspot.com/2005/04/nomar-update.html

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Apr 20, 2006 -> 07:01 PM) Ouch! Maybe they really are cursed? Dont tell Whitesox Fan For Life that!

QUOTE(White Sox Fan For Life @ Apr 20, 2006 -> 06:53 PM) I never said I do believe in a curse, and I totally agree with you that this is a reason why the media and the teams just go along with it. First, the media to create some kind of suspense to grab people's attention. Second, the team just use that excuse to be a scapegoat for their own failure/mistakes. Yeah, you have reiterated that many times. But that doesnt change the fact that your arguments are based on random things, such as lack of evidence in the scorecard and Bill Buckner moving to Idaho.

LMAO. Dirty old man. Well, at least it wasnt a kid.

QUOTE(White Sox Fan For Life @ Apr 20, 2006 -> 06:40 PM) Well I thought that since I quoted a definition of a curse from answers.com which mentions something about the supernatural. I thought I would mention that if the curse did have something to do with game 6 then there would be some kind of evidence that something out of the ordinary had to happened. evidence? Do you think a witch flew out of the sky, cackled, waved her arms and said "You are cursed!"? There is no evidence of curses in anything but results. People feel the need to explain the lack of a championship in Boston and Chicago, and they cannot find any real reason why these teams sucked for so long, so they attributed it to a curse.

QUOTE(fathom @ Apr 20, 2006 -> 06:39 PM) Are you sure it's not cause "Will and Grace" is going off the air after this season? It could be that....

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Apr 20, 2006 -> 06:37 PM) Bruce Levine is reporting it's two franctures. 6 weeks in a cast plus whatever rehab time after that. I hear this great sobbing noise coming from the direction of Wrigleyville. Strange.

QUOTE(fathom @ Apr 20, 2006 -> 06:07 PM) Maybe they can make a trade for Carlos Pena now? Maybe my vision was skewed with the wrong Chicago team? So now you think you are a Cubs visionary?

QUOTE(KipWellsFan @ Apr 20, 2006 -> 05:23 PM) Seems like it could have been edited after it was sent. easily. I have a hard time believing an elected official would do something like that nowadays.

Oh yeah, I believe that is authentic :rolly

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Apr 20, 2006 -> 04:03 PM) O's now up 9-4. You know, for all the talk about our bullpen woes, there's is just as suspect--if not moreso. Things like this dont help the Tribe out much in the bullpen dept.

QUOTE(Cuck the Fubs @ Apr 20, 2006 -> 01:57 PM) OKay. I guess the Marlins get the parking and concessions, but I know for a fact that the Twins have to give what they get to the Vikings. Do you have a link for that? I would like to read that article

Nothing but barn-burners in Baltimore anymore. I remember Mussina, Jimmy Key, David Wells, Ben MacDonald, Armado Benitez, even Arthur Rhodes as a starter. They just dont have the pitching anymore.

There is a video on Cnn.com that has some evidence that Seiligmann wasnt at the party when the rape occurred. Pretty interesting stuff, he was in a cab at 12:19 AM and brought to a bank to withdraw money, and he was then dropped off at his dorm at 12:41, which is confirmed by his security card swipe. This seems interesting. edit: did I say it was getting interesting?

QUOTE(Cuck the Fubs @ Apr 20, 2006 -> 10:21 AM) Well what about ballparks that the teams are using under lease, like the Marlins or using from another team, like the Twins who have to give their money from parking and concessions to the Vikings? Yeah, you are talking about one team(the Marlins) who were supposed to get thier own stadium multiple times only to have the owners screw them and abandon the team. And another team(the Twins) whose taxpayers refuse to pay for the whole thing. Both of those teams are pretty much stuck with what they have, but I bet they still make revenue on concessions and parking.

QUOTE(Cuck the Fubs @ Apr 20, 2006 -> 01:28 PM) LOL. Pete Rose didn't bet on games he played in. He gambled after he retired He gambled on games he was coaching, so he wasnt retired from the sport. And who knows if he did or did not gamble while he was playing? He was a player coach, and that gives him even more room to control the games.

QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Apr 20, 2006 -> 01:24 PM) Ah well what more do you expect from the most knowledgeable man in sports. Come on now, when does Mariotti have time to do research with all of his ESPN appearances. He has to wake up and go to makeup for ATH, he has to read what he is supposed to say on ATH, he has to be (muted) on ATH, then he has to write these articles for the Suntimes. Research-Smesearch, Jay doesnt need the truth. The truth needs him!

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Apr 20, 2006 -> 10:32 AM) Can this be real? Watch it til the very end, there are two collisions. Warning, graphic. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2...7&q=fatal+crash I dont know what the safety regulations are in races like that, I have never been to one. But it seems to me that common sense would indicate that the race get stopped ASAP after that first collision until it could have been cleaned up. What is it in NASCAR, a green checkered flag? Something like that should have been used, those motorcyclists had no idea what was around that corner and something even worse happened because of it. That was bigtime negligence.

QUOTE(Cuck the Fubs @ Apr 20, 2006 -> 08:29 AM) If Tribune sold the Cubs, would they still own Wrigley Field? B/c that would mean they still get the money from parking and concessions I dont think a prospective owner is just going to want the team. The park comes with the team usually

Do game threads get deleted after games now? Or are they archived elsewhere?

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Apr 19, 2006 -> 11:11 PM) Whoa, whoa, whoa, if beans don't belong in chilli, then wtf goes into it? Just spicy ground beef? That's called 'picadillo'. exactly what I was thinking. If Chili with beans=Hot Dog with Ketchup, then Chili with no beans=Plain Hot Dog.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Apr 20, 2006 -> 01:32 AM) Even Wirtz wouldn't be that stupid. All the games are sold out so he wouldn't do anything. However if things ever got bad, he could definately run that franchise into the ground. Wirtz had plenty of sellouts in the 90's and he still managed to bury the blackhawks in fine fashion. Wirtz never had a problem making money, it was spending money that he always had a problem with. Does this mean that Cubs home games will be blacked out on WGN and Comcast?