southsider2k5

You heard it here first, 13 ABs is enough to take a victory lap.

Getz WAS the smoking crater of Hahn/Williams.

By the stories being told, Getz undermined the existing management to get that job.

I thought the package was basically fair, though it would have been nice to do better on the back end of the deal. But that being said, measuring this trade two weeks into the season based on MLB stats only is absurd. It will be years before we REALLY know what we got back.

There are a billion relievers cycled through the DFA turnstyles they could have brought in. They also could have ran out there any of our AAA failed starters, or a guy like Addison Coffey that they don't seem to have interest in, but who has had MiLB success. There were plenty of cheap options.

Former White Sox winning with other teams.

McCaskey made it to 102, which 8s 15 years older than Jerry.

The party's are too lame.

Look, for 25 of the 26 players on the White Sox roster, I would love to see them succeed, despitethe odds. The 26th gives me joy to see him fail. Also

Except for the whole pitchers arms falling off thing.

Likely? Uh, sure.

Because when I look at this roster I think, damn why don't we have enough 30 something's who won't be around when we have a chance of being good to block the guys who should be getting opportunities. Thank god He Getz Us.

It's also very scary that the company line seems to be their player development can only develop a very narrow focus of players, and doesn't seem to have the ability to do anything with most, even very highly talented and thought of players. We are talking about multiple consensus first round draft picks, but somehow this organization isn't able to do anything with them. That's a big red flag to me.

And it isn't even just the actual prospects. It is how they are being used (or neglected). It is who is playing at the major league level, and who isn't. This franchise has a weird older utility player fetish that seems to have survived both Kenny and Rick, and still exists for Chris. Hell maybe that is some weird Jerry thing for it to still be going.

No they don't. They see what is actually in the system, and how it translates into nothing even close to covering all of the major league holes we have.

And it quite literally playing from the exact same playbook again 35 years later, but somehow this is different. It is so completely absurd.

You do realize that when a franchise is worth $2 billion, that any owner, by definition, will be a greedy billionaire owner, right?

Again, we can TALK about results all they want, but I want to SEE results. A great place to start would be our minor leaguers showing any amount of baseball IQ, or looking like they belong when they get here.

He should have been last year.

Yeah, look, things were going to be bad, we all saw that far ahead, but no one planned for the worst ever. That shouldn't be where the line is.

To be fair, ownership/management told the fan base that this was to prevent a rebuild, and that because we are in the AL Central, this would be easier. But sure. It's the fans. And if they were intentionally lying to us, this is the same group that is now telling us how great everyone they hired is, and that everything will be just fine, so you can see how we don't really believe them.

We just did that for 30's something middle relievers.

It is Jerry's unwillingness to hire someone who will challenge him and the status quo that stopped us from hiring an outside candidate, and not a potential change in ownership at some unknown point in time that prevented it causing them to settle for Getz. That is glaringly obvious to me.

So how did we get the guys below Getz to come here, if talent isn't willing to do so? Are they not talented?