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Yeah, that would be truly the bottom, I don't even want to think about it.

Man, I've been trying to remain positive with this franchise at least in the sense of "how could it get any worse?" "it's always darkest before the dawn" type mindset. This is truly the bottom and least hopeful I've been in my 40 years on this planet. Now to the point of apathy, which is quite sad. Ugh.

Yeah not good, not good at all.

Do we have any indication on if it's hip flexor, forearm flexor? Forearm injuries are often a precursor to TJS.

well this clears things up

Only 44 more games until he qualifies for managerial records, Sox should fire him that night and he will be the all time leader in worst win % in baseball history. Would be difficult to believe he would ever get another job to unburden himself of such an honor. Edit, I was mistaken, the Sox would have to go 9 and 44 the rest of the way for Pedro to drop below Doc Prothro to have the worst winning % of all time.

Did I just manifest this?!?!

Probably right, I just see a hard path to improving the team by trading away a 25 year old that might be a top 5 pitcher in the sport for a couple guys under the age of 20 struggling in A ball. If the return wasn't there you walk away until it is, you're not obligated to give the guy away just because your current squad is abysmal.

Maybe in all of the 4 majors.

I plan on pouring myself 2 or 3 fingers of fine scotch the evening this assclown is fired. What an unbelievable leader of men, I can't imagine why the majority of the organization seems to be going through the motions.

Outside of the Orioles who seem to be done, there was really no logical partner for me. I need a top 20 guy back if I'm trading Crochet, he's too good and has too much potential. Unless Boston wants to try to make a run and hand over some combination of a Mayer/Anthony headliner plus lower level guys, I'm fine keeping Crochet.

Did you also hit the pipe and forget you already posted this an hour ago?

The Dodgers farm system is the best in the game? News to everyone in baseball including the Dodgers.

Is "Smith" Noah Schultz?

I wouldn't say zero, Sox might have to add Fedde in to get a return like that. Baltimore have more young studs on the IF than they have positions to play, something has to give there for Baltimore. Oh, is this guy one of the O's fan infiltrators?

I agree unless it's Basallo with a co-headliner of Mayo. Quero/Basallo splitting time at DH/C/1B would be just fine with me. I don't love how the Dodgers match up for Crochet, we need high end bats back for him.

Just when I thought I was out for the year, they pull me back in.

Other guys remember to pull out.

Yep, hope he keeps it up!

This, he went from a Baseball Savant +8 run value in '21 vs 4 seamers to a -9 in '22. There were signs the age was catching up.

I got a lot of grief on here for claiming AV could put up similar numbers for (essentially) free and letting Jose walk was the right move. I'll pat myself on the back even though AV ain't what I thought he would be.

Hahaha, I had a similar experience with Pedro on July 1st last year in Oakland, was sitting 2nd row behind Sox dugout, felt like 110 degrees on the field that day, not a cloud in the sky. Dylan was shaky all day and clearly exhausted by the end of the 5th, Pedro sends him back out there for the 6th so I started chirpin at him to get an arm up. Cease promptly gives up a triple followed by a double to cut the lead in half, gave him a little "what'd I tell ya!" Sox blew it in the 10th and I wasn't happy with Pedro's pen mgmt so I gave him a "THIS ONE'S ON YOU PEDRO! THIS ONE'S ON YOU!" I have a pretty booming voice anyway but from that close he actually jumped a bit, he turns around and stares right at me, gave him the most angry thumbs up I could muster and I turned for the concourse steps. I got to the top and turned around, dude was still staring daggers at me, he def wanted to take me to the wood shed. If only he had half the brains he does ego he might be able to hold down a job. Edit: Not my proudest moment, but it makes me laugh to think about him turning around and seeing my big dumb face giving him a thumbs up

You mean I should stop comparing rookie pitchers to HOFers after one start?!?! ? Totally agree, was just a fun start to watch a guy with an elite pitch like that right out of the shoot. Hope he sticks and has some success here.

If my memory serves Maddux sat around 90-93. Of course he had insane movement and a ridiculous curveball, but velo is not the be all end all if you can have elite control.

100% Pretty refreshing to see a young guy come up that isn't just trying to beat you with velo and throwing a ball through a wall, but actually pitch.