Dick Allen

QUOTE (buhbuhburrrrlz @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 06:58 PM) If Bulls match, which Gar Forman has consistently said the Bulls plan to do, guarantees Boozer would be amnestied for 2014-15 season. - KCJohnson How does the cap work on a contract like this? Is it the average or what they make a season? A $15 million expiring contract in 2014-15 would be a pretty decent trade chip if the cap hit the first 2 years is small.

Asik averaged 14.7 minutes a game. Let him go. Those minutes can be covered.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 05:39 PM) I believe the Sox used up all the good Humber already. If the elbow wasn't really bothering him when he went bad, I agree with you. If he truly had an elbow isssue, there is some hope. I'd throw today's numbers out since he hasn't pitched in a while. If his next outing is bad.........next.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 04:13 PM) Well you can ignore me too...but instead you need to argue with everything I post since I'm the person you always wanted to be in life. Wow. I can tell you I'm very happy being me. I really don't want to be someone who posts stuff like this on message boards. It was obviously an effort to get me to do something silly, but it won't happen, and you are now officially ignored.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 03:58 PM) Honestly, DA, you ask one question, which I answer, and you then run with it under a completely different premise. I don't know if you do it purposefully or not, but for someone who runs around digging up posts to quote all the time, it's pretty damn weak. Take Balta's example: If we got Hamels back, he would clearly not play LF for us on days he didn't pitch. Does that mean that is the reason not to make that trade! No one knows what Viciedo's trade value is. Not me, not Balta, not Marty, not you and not KW. He's not going anywhere, KW loves him. So you can say trade him every game thread, he'll never improve, that's fine. But unless you're really hoping that so you can pat yourself on the back in a couple years, its really just a waste of time, and you're going to be doing it forever. He's here for the long haul.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 03:55 PM) 2-2 split............................average 1 run a game last 2. The get some offense in the 1st inning, then nada.

Tank walks. He's improving.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 03:49 PM) How does it logically follow that by desiring to trade a player, I also must believe his replacement is somehow better or different? Give it up. Seriously. Jordan Danks would be playing LF in a pennant race, and you would trade Viciedo to someone who would offer a lot . You don't think he'll ever get better, but you're sure there are teams out there who do. Silly.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 03:47 PM) At no point have I said anything close to that. Except here: Depends what you got back, obviously. Probably Danks.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 03:46 PM) It's not a personal insult. He's just your latest "defend at all costs" player now that Morel is injured. You disregard all your intelligence and logic to defend sone of these guys, for what reason, I don't know. Frankly I think it's more insulting to me that I feel obliged to respond to this horses***. You mention Danks as a replacement and say someone ELSE is disregarding intelligence and logic?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 03:44 PM) So you're actually going to tell me that Viciedo won't ever improve or learn the strike zone and you want him replaced by a guy who has struck out 365 times in 1271 PA's at AAA? And isn't Danks 25 or 26?

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 03:43 PM) Ken Griffey Jr. He's available. They may want to move him to CF. KW thinks that's easier on the legs.

Nate Jones back to looking good after a couple of bad outings.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 03:40 PM) I'm sure there are some teams that see what you see. I'd trade him to them. So the proverbial non answer. Who would then play LF? What would it take getting back for you to trade Viciedo?

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 03:34 PM) Hah...you're saying he's going to be an incredible player but has no trade value. I'm saying he should have trade value, if most of the scouts believe what you and Balta and countless others are saying. I'm not saying that at all. I say don't trade him. He's going to be a nice hitter, quite possibly a monster. Still learning, he's on pace right now for 30 homers. The Sox need all the offense they can get, and he's cost controlled for the foreseeable future. The correct question is what is his trade value if most scouts believe what you think? Or are you just smarter than everyone else?

Lou Pinella was doing the game yesterday for YES. He likes Dunn but thinks he should bat 6th.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 03:33 PM) Again, I'm not saying Dayan isn't going to improve or be a solid player. I'm saying he's not going to ever fulfill the expectations you guys have for him. It's a big distinction that many of you seem too stubborn to accept. Then wouldn't other teams feel the same way and negotiate accordingly?

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 03:30 PM) And why can we not get anything back in trade? Why? Because the result is the same week after week. He's the same player he was 2 years ago, all he does is swings as hard as he f***ing can.......You're saying he's not worth all that much but expect a big return. Talk about nonsense.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 03:26 PM) Who the f*** cares Same results week after week. Didn't show any tendency towards improving. He's 23 but so the f*** what, what does that have anything to do with it? Sorry to be showing you examples of guys who weren't worldbeaters as 23 year olds who became good players. Another you might want to look at is Sammy Sosa, who improved before he started juicing.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 03:26 PM) You guys can keep making up horses*** about how he is showing such a vast improvement...honestly, I hope you're right...but the result is the same week after week after week after week.... It doesn't happen as quickly as we all want it to, but it does happen.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 03:23 PM) Yes, his 11 walks are a real indicator of how selective he has become. Keep in mind no one is saying we should guillotine him. We're saying trade him. Carlos Lee walked 13 times in about 500 plate appearances as a 23 year old.

The Sox looking for an at em ball

Robin has an off day tomorrow. I don't agree with bring Floyd back this inning. The Sox will be lucky to still be in the game after this inning.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 02:59 PM) It's an invalid excuse. Show me that you can f***ing learn and improve. Just like your boy Alex Rios did as a 27 year old in 2009 and a 29 year old in 2011?

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 02:53 PM) One more inning? 109 pitches, you've been playing with fire for several innings. I think you're just asking for GAME OVER trotting him out there one more time.