Dick Allen

Good. That means if they are playing well, they get a lot of easy games the second half.

Ozney and Oney were openly rooting against the White Sox at a game I was at a year or two after Ozzie left. I was sitting right behind them. I think the classy one is Ozzie Jr.

One nice thing to see yesterday was Robin Ventura was there for the Harold ceremony and he got one of the biggest hands when introduced.

Home runs is what wins games these days and the White Sox have been outhomered at home by more than 30. Jon Jay types don’t move the needle, he is the MLB version of a 7 foot post player in the NBA and a first round running back in the NFL. The game has changed, and passed bythese types . Hahn needs to pick up power,and hope the guys he has hit more homers. I think Moncada and Eloy should hit more. You figure so will TA. Robert and Vaughn obviously have some. Collins. Guys like Rutherford and Basabe are trade currency. They are baseball dinosaurs. They may develop into decent players but not the kind you win with in your line up every day.

But he is also playing some 1B and could DH.

The other thing that makes me curious, why does Skole get a better shot, all things considered than Collins?

Guys like Shark and Vazquez show that WAR has its flaws. You wouldn’t want either pitching a game with the season on the line, yet they out WAR most you would.

One thing really made me wonder today. The Sox get the lead off man on in the 8th down 2. Engel is next, and he is staring down the 3rd base coach like he expects a bunt. I know as Stone likes to say , no one likes a bunt more tha Ricky, but even Ricky isn’t going to bunt there. Baseball IQ not high.

Last year we were lead to believe the Sox actually had enough payroll flexibility to sign Nachado AND Harper. They both signed for right ar or less than projections, and the team basically said it couldn't afford either o one in regards to what they signed for. It is nice to dream the Sox will sign ayer X, but until they do, it isn't reasonable to think they will or even might based on previous results. In fact, Hahn emphasized patience for the next free agent class. What are most teams looking for when they sign free agents late? Bargains. The Sox need a better plan than bargain bin shopping.

I do think they are going to have to have an off-season that shows they are about done with the rebuild this winter. The typical half assed measures, window opening delayed again moves, are not going to be well received even by most of RH walks on water crowd. Expecting the team to make the playoffs in 2020 is not realistic, but expecting management to put them in position to be competitive and at least have a shot is not. It’s a very small expectation considering this group believes it is capable of building a team that wins multiple championships.

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/white-sox/white-sox-talk-podcast-gm-rick-hahn-talks-luis-robert-zack-collins-and-impact-social-media

He has, for the first time that I am aware, now put rebuilds at a 5-7 year process. He also seems to think all of his injured players will return without a hint of diminished skills. On top of that, it appears he really isn’t thinking any of his top guys will ever suffer a significant injury again. Another thing I took from the podcast, the chances Rodon gets non tendered are close to zero. Paying him to rehab is fine, but if he shows anything when he returns, he will be signing somewhere else. I would also like to know where he gets the White Sox are becoming a top destination for free agents . Did Jon Jay tell him this whe his family thanked RH for the $4 million gift?

Apparently the White Sox were thrilled just for a seat at the table. I agree, Hahn saying nothing last year would have saved him a lot of the twitter grief he hates. But he is great at talking out of both sides of his mouth. On one hand it’s great the Sox came in second, put a feather in their cap because, I don’t know why, but on the other hand he says it’s binary, you either sign him or you don’t. Trying to get cute then losing out and spinning we made the better offer, but we cannot afford the one he picked is just telling the fan base how dumb they think they are. i will believe it when I see it. That goes from them actually closing the deal on franchise altering players, and actually putting together winning teams. Hahn and his multiple championships line is silly. How is he qualified to know what “multi championship players” look like? He would be done as a GM by now if he was with any other team. I listened to a lot of the podcast and his answer about the Nate Jones trade was telling. Blah, blah, blah Paddy doesn’t like any more prospects...this is going to be big for us. Saving $3 million in today’s game is big for a mom and pop operation, not some team with unprecedented payroll flexibility who will soon be competing for multiple championships.

A lot can be overcome if you are willing to be the high bidder. That is what Hahn can do. Supposedly Harper hated Philly, and Machado liked the east coast. Funny how offering the most money usually gets things done.

Pretty easy. Plus click on your name, it will show posts. Nothing much baseball related, just complaining about other posts unless you are praising Rick Hahn.

The internet is weird. Probably have posted that 100 times. b**** and moan about other posts countless times. Tell everyone how they are supposed to feel. Mock yourself, you are as big of a complainer as there is. And there you go, cesspool. Yet here you are.

You probably complain about the internet more than anyone. Why do you continue to post? Seems you're a pot calling the kettle black. I find gamethreads a bit over the top, so I don't look at them much. Yet everything is weird, everything is crazy, but you keep looking at it. Do you get a badge for being an internet cop?

Everyone knows twitter and the rest of social media is rather toxic when you are not perfect. Maybe Rick needs to stop reading twitter. Why is that not an option?

Yes, but Rick Hahn hasn't done much to make people who get happy when the White Sox win, happy. He has contributed to the misery in a huge way. I have complained about people complaining, but at some point, they have a point. Rick needs to show people, not tell them. They need to get off of the 2005 gives them a lifetime pass BS. I just got an email from my rep concerning 2020 ticket renewal. Now bat flipping is excitement #1. On behalf of the White Sox, I want to thank you for your support so far this season. You have witnessed some exciting moments like TA's bat flip, Giolito's All-Star performance, and Eloy's major-league debut. Although 2019 isn't over yet, we are already excited about 2020!

It;s not turning on the rebuild per se. It's everything that goes with it. Kopech is throwing a lighter ball 110 mph during an offseason and he winds up needing TJS. Gee, who would have guessed that. Give Ricky boy another year. A couple more injuries, that doesn't happen to other teams, give him until at least 2021. Trevor Rosenthal had TJ, he can still throw 100, but can't throw a strike. Does every expect Dunning, Kopech, Rodon, to come back like nothing happened? 30% of pitchers in MLB have had TJS. So it happening to White Sox pitchers shouldn't be a pity party. I still see a team that actually bats Jon Jay clean up. Sorry, I expected the rebuild to be a little farther along at this point, especially considering they traded 3 guys for a bunch of prospects, many that were considered major league ready at the time. We are still at a point where a ton has to go right. A ton. Eventually, they will get to the point they were earlier in Hahn's reign of terror, and will have to add major league pieces. Sorry if I am more than skeptical, but I am using past results as an indication of future results.

The guy has been the GM for 7 years, they have never been .500. never finished closer than 16 1/2 games out of first place, are collectively almost 150 games under .500, and he's talking about twitter. He's a bright guy. There is a way to shut twitter up.

We will see. To say Collins is a bust based on infrequent ABs many vs. LHP and saying other oranganizations would have changed his swing is silly. And I pointed out 2 guys who didn't change their swings with a team you mentioned and were let go for nothing. One did change his swing and became a huge force.

Like Houton did with JD Martinez and AJ Reed. C'mon man.

Considering the rosters this group has put together, it is appropriate they play a game in a makeshift minor league park. I feel for people going to the game. When it ends, 99% of the traffic is going to be going in the same direction.

That place even with only 8k, is going to be a traffic nightmare.