Dick Allen

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 15, 2017 -> 09:12 AM) Ah yes, the comp pick. That's what it was. This is when comp picks first started right? So Beane traded Adkins for Durham and then got a comp pick (or picks) in the 2003 draft after he walked. I loved me some KW as GM until recent years, but good god did he have some epic fail moments. The Sox were under the impression comp picks were going the way of the Edsel.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 15, 2017 -> 09:03 AM) Dude, I still remember where I was when that trade went down and couldn't believe that's all we got. Did we simply refuse to eat any money on his contract? I forgot why the return was ultimately such garbage. They ate everything left in his contract but the minimum.

QUOTE (soxfan49 @ Jul 15, 2017 -> 08:39 AM) I read an article that said Dunning would be 5-7 team's #1 prospect. Also, I read another that said the Yankees and Sox have the 2 best chances of having a dynasty for the next 10 years. The Nationals, Cubs, Houston, Dodgers, Red Sox, Yankees, Phillies....all called future dynasties at some point. Reality is there are probably no dynasties.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 15, 2017 -> 08:21 AM) Not done but this is legit tradewatch. Reminds me of pre Samarj trade. Seems legit. Makes way too much sense again. Hopefully the hold up is another team jumped in. The Yankees would make sense. I don't think it was as close last night as a few made it. He would have been lifted.

I do like that he is not settling. As far as what to rate it, it's incomplete. Prospects break your heart, lets see who pans out. If the all do, they will be the mid 90s Indians with a top of the line pitching staff. Bit that probably won't happen. You just hope up the middle they all work out, and most of the pitchers. Then supplement with a free agent or two, and it could be tremendous. They still are going to have 2 extremely high draft picks. We won't know, or could go any way. But they did get what they had to get for Sale, and for Q. I wasn't happy with the Eaton guys, but if they work out, great. I am glad they got some bats. You have to hit homers to win where they play. They have only had one decent season since playing there where they didn't hit a lot of homers, and that was before they changed the roof and made even more of a bandbox.

QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 02:41 PM) Wouldn't mind this at all but I think BOS gets Prado...STL should be all over Todd I think the BoSox wind up with Frazier. They don't want Prado's contract next year and the year after.

QUOTE (35thstreetswarm @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 01:53 PM) ...and just like that, the Chicago Cubs are a losing team with a middling farm system. That is funny. Below .500 and only 1 of 2 teams with no top 100 prospects.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 02:04 PM) The number of people who attended the collusion meeting is now up to eight, with three still not identified. https://twitter.com/NickKristof/status/8859...src=twsrc%5Etfw And Agent Orange didn't know. OK. I think I heard it was 2 days after this meeting the DNC was hacked.

QUOTE (KagakuOtoko @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 02:07 PM) Can we really trust CNN though? It's amazing their fake news and the failing NYT reports have forced Jared Kushner to amend his security clearance forms several times. For some reason they reminded him of some meetings he totally forgot about.

I totally forgot Q was facing Zobrist in the What are you doing Wegner? at bat. A Hawk classic. Now they are teammates.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 01:22 PM) Hmph, their opening day payroll was listed as $199 million and they haven't cut money, so yeah there's got to be some weird luxury tax level rules that move how things are calculated around. Yeah, there seems to be a lot of goofball type rules. None of it is straight, but this lines up with another article when they traded Bucholtz, that said it made them about $10 million under after projected arb.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 01:20 PM) It isn't about Sandoval, it is about being creative to get another prospect into the system after the White Sox have used up all of their greatest trade chips. So why do you always say the White Sox won't include money in a deal, especially since they signed Robert? Isn't this the same thing if not worse? At least the Sox guys were already accounted for payroll-wise, so if they picked up their money, it doesn't alter their obligations. Picking up another huge expense surely isn't part of the plan, but if they do, they might as well go after their other problem. Odds are stacked against it, but maybe he can at least play.

BTW, the Red Sox are currently under the luxury tax threshold and according to this, can add about $9 million before going over. http://www.espn.com/blog/boston/red-sox/po...ing-stretch-run If you are eating money with them, forget Panda, he's done. Do it with a guy who still may have a shot and they have no room for Rusney Castillo. But I wouldn't even do that.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 12:44 PM) But in each of those cases you're talking about a price limited by MLB rules/draft slotting. I would certainly pay $12 million for a top 50 prospect. We literally just paid what, 3x that for Robert, and that was under rules with those penalties? The neat thing here is that we could get MLB to chip in about $20 million of the value, give or take what the Red Sox did in future FA years. Is Jay Groome currently a top 50 prospect? That was the trade you proposed.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 12:38 PM) If the cost to the White Sox was $12 million - that's a good but not great signing bonus for an 18 year old if they were FAs. Scott Boras wants your resume. That is more than any slot in the draft, and higher than any teams' total international pool. So, as I wrote, the prospect better be special. 18 years olds aren't getting that money. Robert was the last one.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 12:28 PM) If it were to get them a decent prospect that is a help to the White Sox as well. Prospects that cost 8 figures better be good. Not some 18 year old kid in A ball with a 6 ERA, who may be a stud one day.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 12:28 PM) Robles will not be traded as he is the direct replacement for Harper after next season. The Nationals could dangle Soto/Kieboom/Stephenson/Fedde/Neuse/Luzardo for bullpen help though It might be tempting to fix your bullpen in one move and have it fixed while Harper is around than worry that the guy in A ball will be up to replacing Harper in a couple of years.

Why should the White Sox pick up any of Sandoval's money? That's Boston's problem. No one is going to help them out there.

QUOTE (mac9001 @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 11:39 AM) Given the Nats bullpen woes I wonder what the haul would be if we send them Robertson, Kahnle & Swarzak. If I'm Rick Hahn I'd be calling Rizzo and planting the go big idea over the next few weeks. Robles for their pick of any 4 relievers, with the Sox picking up the rest of Robertson's money this year. Then the OF of the future would be in place, and the Nats are well on their way to a showdown with LA.

QUOTE (Brian @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 09:43 AM) Dennis Smith is gonna be awesome, isn't he? And the Bulls passed. He might be, but I don't blame GarPax for this one. He has a reputation for not playing hard. Maybe he will grow up, but you never know.

QUOTE (ron883 @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 03:54 PM) You and whoever you were talking to just don't understand baseball as much as I do apparently No one understands it quite like you. I never knew teams gave up big pieces for DFA-worthy players who are only going to get worse.

Just about everything about him is so unflashy except his numbers when the game is over. Maybe playing for the high profile Cubs will get him his due.

Trump now says Jr's meeting with the Russians was just standard campaign practice. But they all had nothing to do with Russians. Its all fake.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 01:01 PM) I honestly wonder if the Sox consider promoting both guys like the Cubs were supposedly about to do prior to the deal. They are going to a new team anyway, might as well move them up.

2020 is my guess. When they rebuilt in the late 80s, the goal was to be ready when the new park opened in 1991. They beat it by a year. With a few breaks, maybe they do it again.