Dick Allen

QUOTE (shysocks @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 01:48 PM) Boston sports fans are, very literally, the worst in the country. It's not up for debate. I went to Fenway I think in 2003. It was before they won, and they were fine. They even gave crap to people leaving and coming during an inning and arriving late. Now they are nothing but glorified Cubs fans. Down 2 with nobody on, they are booing when Papi is 3 and 0. Like who cares if they win, Papi needs to hit a homer.

JB serves no purpose Shuck comes through.

First pitch ball to everyone this inning.

Nice comeback there. I was assuming the worst.

Ball, rocket, ball, ball

Nice job.

Melky should have bunted. I'm kidding.

QUOTE (Elgin Slim @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 12:17 PM) What do you do if you're Ventura IF Shields gets shelled in the 1st again? Do you go get him before it gets out of hand, or do you throw away the game, and save the Pen? Leave him in up to a point. It's not like Purke and Beck have a good shot at shutting them down for 7 or 8 innings. If it got way out of hand like 10 runs or something, you have to pull him.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 11:00 AM) If Shields still has it then this is the game we see it. If not Beck makes his season debut and has to such up innings. Purke too I suppose. I want to be positive about Shields and think because he is a great competitor he will have figured it out Everything is lined up against him here. Awful for 4 starts, usually awful at Fenway. Maybe things are so lined up to go wrong, it will be the opposite.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 04:06 PM) http://m.mlb.com/news/article/98066142/jam...oyals-clubhouse For those down on the deal, maybe this will help. Leadership/intangibles/chemistry doesn't sell like FIP or "peripherals," but it might be equally valuable to a team with a wavering belief in itself. That would bring to at least 7 the "new" White Sox attitude, being added to Latos, Gonzalez (who definitely was known for being a nice guy with an unfortunate streak of ind. losses and ND's, like Q has gotten that same "hard luck" label), Avila, Navarro, Rollins and Frazier. Has definitely been a "mixed" bag with those acquisitions so far, although an argument can be made we wouldn't be where we are without Latos' hot start and Frazier's power bat and mostly very solid defense. Things that make you go hmmmmmmmm.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 10:19 AM) Where did I claim to have the FULL picture on Tim Anderson? There are obviously some concerns still...less on the defensive side than offensively. I simply asked what is a REASONABLE goal for our Latin American program? When should we expect to start seeing some positive results at the big league level? Nobody can answer that, apparently. Why don't you answer it? You seem to think you have all the answers.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 09:51 AM) It's just a GENERAL rule, DJ and Farmer bring it up nearly every week. Michael Morse started out as a SS, Thome played SS and 3B, etc. Tyler mostly played LF. Everyone said Peralta couldn't play SS for Detroit almost a decade ago. Read your post. You didn't state it as a general rule.

Buddy Bell said when these kids are signed, they have hardly played in actual games. It isn't like US players. They go to these camps where they work on their speed, running straight ahead, not the bases, their arms, etc. A lot of them have to be taught the basics of playing the game. This is a very slow process, and the White Sox don't have the advantages teams like the Dodgers and Red Sox and Cubs have where they can throw mountains of money at players and if they don't work out, fine. Rusney Castillo is in the minor leagues for Boston working on what would be the biggest contract in White Sox history if they were paying him.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 09:04 AM) Fine, you tell us. What's a realistic goal for when we will have received 5 total WAR out of all our Latin American investments? 2019? 2020? 2021? There was an expose on the Dominican players on 60 Minutes or some program like it, the average developmental time for these kids is 8 years from what they said. It's not just the White Sox. So expecting the Sox to sign a 16 year old and have him dominating the minor leagues in 2 years is really not realistic.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 09:03 AM) Have you seen their stats this year? Have you seen Anderson's walk rate and struggles with breaking stuff? Anderson's OPS is somewhere in the low 700's for now, but he's going to have to up that OBP. Defensively, he has been better than many expected. The thing about Cabrera/Desmond is that they can play multiple positions and DH. Desmond's not playing SS in Texas, neither is Jurickson Profar, yet both of those guys are natural SS's. The more athletic ability you have on the diamond, the better off you are. Remember when Alexei Ramirez played 2B and CF in 2008 early in the year? If you can play SS, you can play ANYWHERE on the field. Hanley Ramirez Also see Tyler Saladino's attempt to play the OF in AAA. Also don't think Cal Ripken would have made much of a CF. Peralta would have been pretty bad out there as well.

AAA success is nothing new to Renaudo. He is the right handed Eric Surkamp.

Yes.

.80 is .800 Stoney

Ynoa.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 22, 2016 -> 09:06 PM) No, I want the team to have a plan/strategy/vision. Like GreenSox said, Saladino and some random player will be traded for another large veteran salary...and we'll have no options for replacing 2B, which will lead to more fruitless veteran acquisitions. I'm surprised they haven't made you a moderator yet so you could be the ultimate arbiter of what constitutes "good fans." How about you send out PM's to all the posters in the database who didn't post at all...or were in the game thread earlier and gave up already? That will make them all better fans, I'm sure. If only they had someone to educate them. Here is a bet. I bet Saladino is still a White Sox after the trade deadline. You bet he gets traded. Loser has to log off Soxtalk forever.

Horrible managing by Farrell.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 22, 2016 -> 08:58 PM) Who'd have thought that Junior Guerra would be 4-1 as a starter with a 3.67 ERA? Thompson is finally fading a bit with the Dodgers and Puig is back again, so his PT will decrease, but it's crazy how a change of environment will work wonders for some players and everything will click. Also helps when the organization you play for has 100% confidence (and patience) in you...where you can't lose your position after a week or two of bad at-bats. Others, like Erik Johnson, he gone. Tie Game again. We're bad fans for being in the thread, though, because the White Sox WERE losing and now it's tied again. No, you're a bad fan because you want the team to lose. You are probably really cranky right now.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 22, 2016 -> 08:33 PM) Be safe out there, weather is blowing up Direct Tv it gone.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 22, 2016 -> 08:31 PM) I started listening to the game, fell asleep, the Sox were leading...when I woke up it was already 4-2 and then Frazier tied it. So did I cause these two runs to be scored? LOL. It is amazing how you always have something else going On when they are winning, yet if they are getting killed or lose a lead, your posting like crazy. It is just a fact.

QUOTE (Insp @ Jun 22, 2016 -> 08:26 PM) Now that the team is doing poorly, there is a lot more posting here. Of course. There are a couple of guys here who take great joy when the White Sox are trailing.