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QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Oct 13, 2015 -> 11:54 AM) I don't know, not really enough counter space in that kitchen. That's true, Also, the tub in the bathroom also could use some expansion. I think you could probably only fit about 12 people in it, but overall, with it's location, there aren't many updates that must be done.

QUOTE (Dunt @ Oct 13, 2015 -> 11:51 AM) I think that one is the most realistic of any of the trade proposals on this site so far 2 years ago, everyone would do it in a heartbeat. Now, I would probably do it if the Dodgers were also willing to eat a bad contract or 2. That doesn't seem to have been a problem in the past.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Oct 13, 2015 -> 11:42 AM) His plan is to play one more season if possible. According to Spiegel. That would make sense. Maybe he winds up on radio. Both Farmer and DJ signed one year deals. Maybe DJ goes back to TV.

AJ probably could still make a couple million playing next year, but he is pretty good despite his claims that Kendres Morales is a threat to steal.

It's a sweet house. White Sox pennant in one of the bedrooms http://www.movoto.com/chicago-il/48-e-ceda...1-461_09061752/

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Oct 13, 2015 -> 11:29 AM) I was told that, yes. Mark Yet the articles said Ventura was fighting for Parent not to be fired. I think your source is full of it. It really makes no sense to purposely do your job poorly in order to get a promotion. This was a "firing" of convenience. Parent's contract was up, the other coaches all have another year to go.

QUOTE (Lillian @ Oct 13, 2015 -> 10:02 AM) Well then, I guess there is little hope of turning this team into a contender. Yeah, it's over. This team can't be good until 2030 at the earliest.

QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 12, 2015 -> 08:06 PM) The Ole Ball Coach is retiring per twitter. No idea effective when. That program certainly declined last 2 years, but man, college football is not going to be as fun without Spurrier. His press conferences were hilarious performance art. Sorry to see what happens to the hatin ass spurrier columns. ESPN showed the one when there was a fire at a library at Auburn, in which 20 books were destroyed. He said the tragedy was 15 of them hadn't been colored in yet.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Oct 13, 2015 -> 09:38 AM) What? Bonds hit 8 homers in 17 games in the 2002 playoffs. His OPS was somewhere in the range north of 1.500 Josh Hamilton is something like 0 for his last 32 in the postseason.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Oct 13, 2015 -> 09:23 AM) I'll find the article but I thought he was talking different than being surprised. I thought he was pissed off. Maybe I'm wrong. They aren't trading him. That's the bottom line.

QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Oct 13, 2015 -> 09:15 AM) having him under contract already will help in low-balling him on a manger's salary. The White Sox aren't so cheap. KW just listed a house he bought a couple of years ago for $3.75 million. He bought it for $3.25 million, which, according to Crain's included a low interest loan from the White Sox for $2.15 million. Work for the Sox, Uncle Jerry might buy you a mansion.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Oct 13, 2015 -> 09:04 AM) The Rangers never led in game 3 or game 4, many teams have blown 2-0 or 3-1 leads, so this wouldn't be as big of a deal. Plus, it's hard to top their game 6 collapse in the 2011 WS when they could have clinched. A 2-run lead with 2 outs in the 9th, another 2 run lead in the 10th. All could have been likely avoided if the manager makes a defensive replacement for Nelson Cruz. You blow a 2-0 series lead with the next 2 at home, that's a huge gag. Maybe they win in Toronto, but you have to lose 3 in a row including 2 at home, that would be disappointing. The Astros, if they lose, will be a very similar choke to that of the 2003 Cubs. Those ALDS winner hats and t-shirts were probably already in the dugout yesterday.

QUOTE (Middle Buffalo @ Oct 13, 2015 -> 08:47 AM) I actually said this to a coworker in 2003. She assumed that I would root for the Cubs since I was from Chicago. I told her that I didn't just want them to lose, but I wanted it to be in the most spectacular way possible. Then Bartman happened. What would be a bigger gag, the Cubs in 2003 or the Astros or Rangers this year? I would have to go with the Cubs since it was the NLCS as opposed to a division series. That was one spectacular meltdown, and they got to blame it on a fan. Beyond awesome.

The Sun Times had an article last week with quotes from Sandy. He has talked to the White Sox but nothing is concrete. At least at the time, he wasn't sure he was #1 on their list and he also wasn't sure he wanted to leave the Tribe.

Murphy makes every current White Sox look like a gold glover. He is beyond horrible defensively.

Maybe it has something to do with 0-6 in 6 postseason starts.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Oct 12, 2015 -> 03:49 PM) 59: One definition of insanity is doing the same failing thing over and over again and expecting it to work. You bring in vets to fill holes when you are ready to contend. The Sox in my opinion are not ready to contend, there are still far to many major black holes in this lineup and on the team. Let me ask one simple question, why would you want the Sox to get into the same position again that Hahn was trying to dig them out of in 2013? Signing expensive guys (even assuming someone like Zobrist would even WANT to play for the Sox - which is a mighty big assumption) to deals when they are in their 30's is another recipe for disaster. What you are suggesting is a "Kenny Williams special" and history shows that has worked out SO WELL for this franchise since the start of the 2007 season hasn't it? They need young talent (which is hard to get granted) not going back to the same philosophy that hasn't worked. I repeat, I'd rather lose with kids who maybe...just maybe have an upside then lose with guys who simply are not going to get better and don't solve the major issues on this club. Like Mark Gonzales told me one time, the absolute worst position a team can be in is to have a bunch of declining guys on the roster with big deals who are unmotivated. I'd rather not have the Sox go back to that place...no thank you. But then again obviously as a Sox historian I have no idea what I'm talking about. LOL! Mark Why don't you mention the high priced unmotivated players the White Sox have employed the last 15 years.

QUOTE (Middle Buffalo @ Oct 12, 2015 -> 09:10 AM) "Likely" means he's just guessing. Perhaps, but whenever the Earth's rotation is brought into the discussion about a FG that hit an upright and went through, it's a positive.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Oct 12, 2015 -> 08:54 AM) OK guys, I appreciate the enthusiasm, but come on. They're not beating good teams. And they're doing so on quite a bit of luck. Yes, Cutler made some great throws, but those are throws that connect 1 out of 10 times. And he got two of them in close succession. And they were two, late, come from behind victories. Tanking and getting the best draft pick possible is still the play here. Going 8-8 and getting the 15th pick is not good long term. I think anyone has to be encouraged by the defense. KC isn't the greatest, but the defense only gave up 10 points, which last year, De Lasalle High School seemingly could have scored vs. the Bears. If they had their top 3 receivers, these games they are barely winning vs. not so good teams, probably aren't as close. Getting some of these guys some confidence can go a lot farther than picking 15th vs. picking 3rd. I doubt they finish 8-8, and I'm sure Cutler will be public enemy #1 again at some point, but playing a solid game IMO is better for the future than the potential drop in draft position. Face it, they aren't playing with their top pick this year.

And kudos to Terry Bradshaw for his rant against Greg Hardy and Jerry Jones.

Science. This guy is pretty awesome Neil deGrasse Tyson ✔ ‎@neiltyson Today's @Bengals winning OT field goal was likely enabled by a 1/3-in deflection to the right, caused by Earth’s Rotation. 3:48 PM - 11 Oct 2015 4,666 4,666 Retweets 5,004 5,004 favorites

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Oct 11, 2015 -> 11:10 PM) You ought to do us all a favor and take your own advice and go cheer for another team - a successful one, one that wins enough games to make it into the postseason more than once a decade. That way you'd be able to frequent a fan message board that has the privilege of spending their time talking about and enjoying the success of their team vs. always having to express their frustration over continued failure. Free yourself of all of this "moaning" and "complaining" about the Sox organization's ongoing ineptitude. You'd probably be much happier if you did. Says the guy who said he was going to switch teams but decided to stay so he can whine each day about Jerry Reinsdorf. The team won 1 playoff game between 1960 and 1992, and 2 playoff games between 1960 and 2004, and people are whining that now is the worst stretch ever. The White Sox are the worst organization. Every move they make they should have done the opposite.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Oct 11, 2015 -> 05:44 PM) For those who may not understand the context please allow me to explain. The time period from 2007 through 2015 has netted the Sox six losing seasons in nine years. From that historical standpoint it is the worst stretch of baseball for the franchise since 1968 through 1980. That time period resulted in two winning seasons, one .500 season and nine losing seasons. I trust this will clear up the confusion. The late 80's and the late 90's have nothing on right now as far as sustained poor baseball results. The late 80's had four losing seasons in a row, that's all. The late 90's had four losing seasons in five years, that's all. Both of those stretches also had the Sox then going on some very good periods...something very hard to imagine at this point in time. Mark Actually 5 out of 6, and no postseason games from 1984-1992. 0

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 11, 2015 -> 05:07 PM) They averaged 72.25 wins over those 4 years. Over the last 3, we've averaged 70.666667. "We should continue on the path we're on now. Stay the course, we're right there! After all, if we didn't go all-in, we might wind up with a losing skid as bad as the late 1980s." How many have they averaged over the last 4? A little over 74. Seems like the stretch I mentioned would be worse unless you need more cherry picking for complaining"s sake. You are already on record as saying they will be bad the rest of the decade.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Oct 11, 2015 -> 04:40 PM) We'll see what happens but given the realistic chance season ticket sales are going to drop perhaps dramatically the Sox probably won't have as much money to throw away on guys in their 30's heading downhill. Honestly I don't see how they can go about getting the talent they need other than trying to sign some guys and hope and maybe swing a deal. They still don't have enough young major league ready talent in the minors to either replace the guys they deal or somehow get younger talent who may be ready to play. I think they are between a rock and a hard place and don't really know yet what the plan is, despite Kenny assuring everyone he has one. The proof is in the pudding, we'll see, but the bottom line is the same folks who got the Sox into this mess are supposedly the ones going to get them out of it. Hate being so negative but that's what you get when the franchise is going through their worst period of baseball record wise since 1968-1980. Win games (a lot of them) and everything is solved from attendance to fan reaction to advertising and such. Right now the record shows the Sox seem incapable of doing this. Mark How was 1986-1989?