Harry Chappas

The Sox haven't played a winning team since May 10th, possibly even May 6th.

It depends on the job, that is his point. When I drove a fork lift, it was a whole different atmosphere than white collar work. Sports are as blue collar a mentality as there is. F** was a nice word compared to the other things you could be called. Also how many jobs require 25 men about the same age to esentially live with one another for 9 months. The point is sports figures are not role models and do nothing to help socity other than what society chooses to take from them. They are combative by nature that is what makes them successful. Jay and the rest want them to be passive, that is not an option. There needs to be a middle ground and it will find itself as the Pac Man Jones and Elijah Dukes should find out. To think AJ and Buerhle can not handle their situation or Guillen shouldn't swear is silly to me and not very newsworthy.

This thread will not go away and neither will the Greg Walker ripfest. The reason the White Sox will struggle with this lineup is because they can not make a pitcher work. As good as Gaudin may be, there is no way he should have had under 80 pitches through 7 innings. The guy faced 18 batters through 6 innings. They simply do not make a pitcher work. If there isn't a homerun hit, this team will struggle. A pitcher only needs to be near the zone and they will swing. Cintron, Ozuna, Mackowiak, Erstad and to a degree AJ, Uribe and Crede are not pure power hitters. Yet the appraoch that they all have is to swing at everything close. Sometimes it works out but most of the time it doesn't. The ysit on pitches and can get away with it sometimes other times they look stupid. In a two inning span yesterday there were 3 strike-outs, foul out to the catcher, pop up on the infield and 5 hooper to second. Some balls were hit hard early but that passed after the third and did not come back until the 8th. I think they will hit Boonser and whoever they face Saturday. I would think the thing to do when facing Tampa would be to work the starter and get him out of there to get to the bullpen. The White Sox can not do this at all. A pitcher that is on is guaranteed to go 7 innings. I will use Gaudin, De Los Santos, Colon, Durbin, Elarton, Oldalis Perez as an example. These guys were able to put it cruise control against the White Sox because their appraoch was not good once the starter established himself. Look at the appraoch Oakland took. They hardly swung early in the count and took a ton of strikes. The White Sox may take strike one but then that is it, time to swing away. Good pitches are not taken for strike two or fouled off with two strikes. They are put in play, usually as a seven hopper or pop up on the infield. This is not Walker's fault these are the Chicago White Sox and what they all have always been in their careers.

I read the Spoliers and knew it was the future. What I thought would happen was that Jack was all f***ed up because he let Sayid, Jin and the dentist (forget his name) die and Ben was right. When they were alive I was really fired up. My main problem is the stupidity of Jack to not listen to Locke and always believe he is right. I am not sure if this is intentional though. I felt good for Rousseau and Hugo. The van thing was kind of corny but you gotta like Hugo. I forgot I was watching tv during the episode. I am not sure we are suppossed to even know who the dead guy is right now and it will be interesting to see how it plays out. Awesome show.

The guy is ususally on the money and not an over the top writer. The Downey article the other day is the stuff that is just stupid.

QUOTE(bmags @ May 24, 2007 -> 01:53 AM) so, I went to this game. My bro (damen) kindly paid for me. This is the second game I've seen this season before I'm off to mizzou for the summer. In 2 games, 18 innings, I've seen the sox score 1 run. That one run was walked in. These pitchers? No, not Santana or Sabathia or Bonderman, De Los Santos and Gaudin. On top of that we were sitting in the bleachers, next to the most obnoxious idiot fans I've ever sat next to, and behind us the most benign chatter about childrens movies nonstop for the entire game, and when the entire bleachers were yelling to throw the home run ball back, I just put my head down and thought "I just may have decided to go to the worst white sox game ever"/ I gotta agree with you on the atmosphere in the outfield. Monday was the preoccupation of the wave and then last night was just irritating. It being some sort of Country Music night may ahve helped. Garland struggled all night and with the offense not hitting, there was no way Garland shoud have come out in the 7th. Also Hall should have hit and AJ should have scored that was terrible. Ozzie will not ph his back-up catcher for fear of losing him later in the game. If it is a walk-off situation he will use him. Real bad loss and with three (I do not think Boof is good) good pitcher s coming up may be a rought few days here on Soxtalk. The Indians have beat Santana twic ethis year. The Sox need to figure something out fast aginst leftie's.

Should be good. I find the spoilers help you understand what is going on much better. Need to decide if I hit the Cell or watch Lost...............

ESPN as a whole has gone downhill. The programming in general blows. I am not sure if there was a shift in focus or what but it has become more tabloid across the board in recent years. It began when they had the original programming which was good (Earnhart, Knight, Alabama football) but the football series was a wreck. How about the Bonds reality series. The Dice-K and Clemens coverage are well over the top. When Clemens was returning to Houston this not nearly as publicized. I see the Boston and New York match-up coverage to a degree as they are worth watching but the coverage outside of the game can get outrageous. The thing that irritates me is the coverage that they force for their programming. The NHL had the coverage on ESPN like the NBA does now. The NBA is covered on ESPN and ABC so the inundate the programming with NBA coverage and the NHL gets minimal coverage at best. Also if there is a program that they force on one network they put crap on the other (i.e. Figure Skating or Poker). The personalities that they are giving more air time to on their shows are also geared toward the tabloid point of view. Mariotti, Michael Irvin, Steve Phillips, etc. I actually like the NBA analysis, Stephem Smith included. With ideas that are put out there to garner controversy rather than fact. Case in point Phillips stating Cliff was the best leftie in baseball at the start of last year. Kruk shakes his head and says Johan Santana, next subject. Phillips is a complete moron with a point of view that should not be allowed to be expressed. Charles Barley is incredibly entertaining and that is what ESPN is looking for, yet Barkley makes good sense. I watch Comcast but they seem to be geared toward the cubs. I am not sure if that is the negative media thoughts I posess toward cub coverage or reality. Putiing it best. After the cubs had struggled earlier this season and then rolled off 2 in a row, Linda Cohan states, "cubs back to their usual winning ways." Say what. ESPN creates thoughts about reality that they feel will get people to watch as oppossed to the reality of the situation.

I really think the mindset of a good number of people in the organization is to f*** with the media and the media in some areas is figuring it out. The players that like the pub are getting it. Ozzie/Mariotti/ White Sox thing and poof old issues are forgotten.

QUOTE(Jenks Heat @ May 22, 2007 -> 09:00 PM) Tiggers and Ingins lose and I get to watch Peavy pitch nice evening. Rich Hill getting hit hard this night keeps getting better.

Tiggers and Ingins lose and I get to watch Peavy pitch nice evening.

Danks is now 3-4 with a 3.78. That is good, real good.

Blew an opportunity to lower the ERA. Acording to Hawk and DJ DiNardo is Koufax Terraro has incredible power Stewart is the right handed Tony Gwynn/Wade Boggs Lob it over the f***ing plate asshole!

Throw a f***ing fastball down the god damn middle.

Carmona out after 70 pitches 47 for strikes through 6 innings.

Why take Aardesma out he was looking good......against leftie too. Great play by Iguchi hang a star on that one.

Grienke in for KC if he does what he did against the Sox I like the Royals chances.

Thought AJ couldn't hit a leftie? I think Hall was a nice wake up call for him.

Nice inning after the first batter. Send him down to AAA right now. QUOTE(Brian @ May 22, 2007 -> 08:07 PM) You trying to tell me Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball? Only if it's a strike or a hanger.

This is where the bullpen has to face nine guys and end this thing. How long before Hawk gives the old these guys never give up speech ala the Kansas City Royals. Throw f***ing strikes that is all.

I will not be comfortable until this inning is over. With the off day Thursday and the extra rest day from last week using Masset. He needs to go at least 7. Man he is getting out of jams.

QUOTE(Steff @ May 22, 2007 -> 02:27 PM) The more things change.. the more they stay the same. Where the hell have you been? Reagrding Mariotti though. I stopped reading the ST because of him and Couch two years ago. The negative and purly fictitious crap they write about everything is not worth the effort. Marketing 101 will tell you that you want to sell what the consumer is willing to buy, The thing with Mariotti is that cub fans will read this crap and then Sox fans will read when he bashes the cubs. He can sit atop the fence and bash everyone regarding baseball. When things are going bad for a team he piles on and then hops on the bandwagon when things start going right. The eternal windsock. The fact the Sox call him out forces him to a degree to defend his position. Too much negative publicity will be the downfall of anything. The good writers at the ST will pay the price of being associated with the stigma of a rag which the ST Sports section has become regarding their columnists. Because there are not threads about Telander, does that mean the ST will fire him? Negative pub is sometimes not a good thing.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ May 22, 2007 -> 02:31 PM) An interesting note from the "For the love of statistics" category. The Sox are actually rated #7 in the ESPN RPI category, 4 spots ahead of their latest power-ranking. Their 22-19 record is actually three better than the Pythagarin expected record of 19-22. Their .517 strength of schedule is good for 3rd in all of baseball, and #1 in the AL. Look at the upcoming schedules of the Tigers and Indians and look at who they have played. Then evaluate the White Sox situation.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ May 21, 2007 -> 10:57 PM) Well, half of the garbage exchanged in that deal is where it belongs now.....the ironic thing is the only arm of value in that deal is Vasquez, who is looking really good for us in AAA. It's pretty amazing how long Cotts and Aardsma pitched really well though, they each kept that fraud alive for a solid month. If Vasquez comes up and walks the first guy you will be calling for KW's head for not acquiring Rocky Cherry in the deal. Go read Mike Downey's article this morning in the Trib. I love how every media guy can GM and spend other people's money. To keep Lee and Ordonez the payroll would be $140M.

Houston and the White Sox could make tremendous bed fellows as they both are in the thick of it and a bold move could help them greatly. If Houston wanted Crede which I doubt, what would they do with Ensberg? I could see Lidge for McDougal (prior to his last couple of outings that is) and another prospect, maybe Logan.