Harry Chappas

This should be green right? He makes Harry's last couple of years look vintage.

Francona was thought as highly as Wally Backman a few years back with the Sox. Buddy Bell as failed elsewhere not sure why we think he would succeed here.

Makes even more sense always get the pub out there.

He is the mayor of the city. He has to root for both teams as they both benefit the city. I see your point but this is life and business not the fun we get out of it. For PC sake at the highest level he has to back both. Why was he in Atlanta to begin with?

They did that with Harden and they won. Stupidity was the most prominent trait of the 2003 White Sox.

Ozzie Guillen had no patience at the plate and I do not recall him being all that great of a fundamental player, just what we need. His persona may be cute but I think this would be a tragic hiring.

It is majestic. I do not know what that word means but it seems to soud like it fits in the spirit of this thread. Except for the bikini paint ball portion.

Funny thing about that play was the first thing that went through my head was would Konerko, Lee, Ordonez, Thomas, Crede or Valentin have tried that to win the game????? Winning should always be everything.

I agree that our advance scouting could be blamed if the nature of team was to adjust to the pitcher but we use the same philosophy every at-bat. I really think this team does not discuss tendencies and strategy, they appear to just go at it and see what happens.

I understand the not seeing a guy but a good hitter should be able to adjust and although not go 4-4 with 3 homers, they should be able to get an idea. These new guys are not inventing new pitches. i thin it is the approach of the hitters adn their mentality. This needs to be dealt with before any good is to come from this team. Pop outs are way to common for it to never be addressed. I didn't see any in the game last evening. You know we would have had at least three in the 8th and 9th.

Freddy for Carlos wouldn't be bad if we didn't get Colon back. If we did get Colon back, Ordonez for Freddy and a couple of prospects. I like good pitching.

Pedro Martinez has stated point blank that he will pitch for the Yankees in 2005. Do the Yanks want both of these guys? As awesome a rotation as that would be, the Yanks need to look at position players and bullpen; and trim some fat, goo may be the casualty. The Red Sox on the other hand are looking to trim some payroll and goo may not fit in there either. $36M is a-lot to pass up when the turmoil exists as it does in baseball today. Could Robbie explain that NY is not as good as it sounds. And Carl the same for Boston? The more I think of this offer the more I think Bart has something to think about. Remember Wood and Martinez may be available next year as well as Loiaza. I think the manager being named is important and could have a little chat with Colon and get him to see things in a different light.

IMO the Twins are not that good and took advantage of a good situation (weak divison.) Radke and Santana were unhittable after the break. Lohse was hot and cold but as I stated they have a bullpen that was unhittable, like ours in 2000. If your not going to spend on a bullpen or starting pitching you are going to be done by the end of August. For a prime example see today's Twins game and the last five times they played us. Look no further than the cubs, they have bad defense so their starters strike out an inordiante numebr of guys.

That is the price of good pitching. I do not think it is to high. Teams get to the playoffs with proven starting pitching. In the end that was what carried the Twins and why the Yanks win over 90 games a year, as well as the Red Sox and A's. We won't spend it elsewhere either. The Reds (pre-fire sale,) Astros, and Rangers can hit with anyone and where are they. You combine good starting pitching with good defense and you have something. If your starters are not that strong you need a really good pen but can get by with a mediocore pen with top flight starters. Other than the Angels last year everyone that wins does it with pitching, not offense. This goes back to the beginning of time. All things being equal, the pitcher has the easy part under pressure in the playoffs.

There is an off day tomorrow. Use them all, when was the last time they played a meaningful game, courtesy of the Chicago White Sox. Hawkins and Guardado two innings each and they go home. I do agree with leaving Reed in there though.

I think he meant last year. Increased prices and increased sales should equal increased payroll.

The biggest move and most discussed did not come until today, 4 months too late.

Wegmen and Cuzzi are both working the cub series on different crews who did they have problems with? I think these were guys that were bad for us.

Yanks 3 Twins 1 Boston 3 A's 2 Yanks 4 Boston 2 cub 3 Atlanta 1 SF 3 Fla 1 SF 4 cub 2 Yanks 4 SF 2

Who is out there that is proven??? I agree with you but winners are a rare commodity.

This works if done properly. I assume Magglio will be traded for youth if Colon is signed. I think this is a good direction.

Yankees have already told Kenny, we ae going to offer 5 years $60M so look good on paper and offer him this. This deal makes sense as Loiza can leave after next season, buerhle the next and Colon the third.

Budget is set at $55M. Maggs is set at $14M, Buerhle will get at least $2M in arbitration and Schoenweis and Garland will get at least $1M in arbitration. Remove Colon, Cabrarea, and Castillo and you may be correct although I do not think they will give Konerko and Koch away as they both could turn it around. Sorry but I think they will lose all their free agents and pick-up a jouryman pitcher and sell us on the growth of players. Next year I think they will be the same as this with more hitting and less pitching.

This team always states this s*** and it never pans out. They know somebody will sign Colon to big money so by saying this they get to do the old, we couldn't afford him compared to the Orioles, Yankees, Red Sox s***. This team does not spend money on pitching so why start now. My guess 4 years $37M, the Yankees will offer 5yr, $60M. Then we can say we tried as feeble as it might be and then complain when we can't sign a free agent because they went hard after Colon. Colon is 30 years old, he will want at least 5 years. Nice try KW, offers mean s***.

The Sox threw beer on the fans in Minnesota and showered the fans on the ooponents field. Where is Jimmy Piersal at to complain about this now?