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QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 10:17 AM) Thanks for scanning your book, Jim.

I cannot speak for the other mods and admins but some posters have earned a level of respect and perhaps preferential treatment. Just like the NBA, a known commodity and superstar gets the calls. My thought process a lot of times works like this. Man, that's weird that XYZ poster jumped all over that guy, he's never been like that in the past 12 months. This new guy has been here one week and already he's in a flame war with someone. One flame in 12 months is probably no big deal. One flame the first week you are here, it gets attention. As a mod I feel that Jason (ChiSoxfn) has entrusted me to help in a small way. In turn we trust posters to act like adults and behave at this party. I'd give my best friend the keys to my truck without hesitation, I wouldn't to someone I met a month ago. I trust long term posters to act responsibly and when they get a little out of line, I politely as possible ask them to edit, modify, reword, delete, etc. I can say in the time I have been a mod, every poster who has been here more than a year has complied. The b****ing has always been from someone who has only been here a short time. What does that say?

So are you blaming the agent or the team? It would seem that the pressure is on the other agents to perform for their players as well Boras could ask for $60,000,000 for Crede but no team is going to pay it. Nothing really happens until some owner ponies up the cash.

he looks plastic . . .

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 07:46 AM) Went missing? Heck with the corruption up there, they probably sold them. I think they are in Syria, let's invade them and find out

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Vincent (Starry Starry Nights) The Killing of Georgie (one of my all-time fav Rod Stewert songs)

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 07:19 AM) I really didn't think so during the trial, but supposedly the longer the jury is out, the worse it is for Jackson... Now where is my sticker? It should have turned your finger purple . . .

Wild thing You make my heart sing You make everything Come on, wild thing Wild thing, I think you move me But I gotta know for sure Come on and hold me tight Oh you move me

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 07:18 AM) Well we ended up having the exact same problem. Imagine that, my kid not cooperating. Heck some doc somewhere is probably ready to label the baby and put it on a drug... Anyways after much maniputation and coaxing, it looks like we are going to have a girl. It is still on the earliest possible time period to make a judgement, but it didn't look like any equiptment was present, and the start of a labia was. It was very cool, and everything looks to be healthy and developing A-OK. Or *he* could be hung like his daddy Before y'all get pissy on me, I know y'all were thinking it And congrats again SS

Counts 2 to 5: Molestation. The charge is that between February 20, 2003 and March 12, 2003, "Jackson willfully, unlawfully and lewdly committed a lewd and lascivious act upon the accuser with the intent of arousing, appealing to, and ratifying the lust, passions, and sexual desires of himself and the accuser." This refers to two counts of the boy himself saying "Michael Jackson molested me, and two counts of his brother saying, "I saw Michael Jackson molesting him." Sentence: For each count, Michael Jackson could face up to eight years in prison.

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QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 12:08 AM) The Scrabble tournaments ESPN shows are fun to watch too! I love top level scrabble.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jun 8, 2005 -> 06:27 PM) Who said a player should settle for less money? That is a completely different question. You asked if the teams were getting hurt. I think for everyone except the upper echelon teams, they benefit by not signing Borass guys as they are able to sign comparable players for less money, and then have the ability to build around those players moreso than if they wasted that money on one player. But not all Boras clients are upper echelon players earning multi-year, multiple-million dollar paychecks. Definition time: Boras Player, any player he represents. Boras Player, A-Rod etc. earning multiples of tens of millions of dollars. Or are you extending Boras' negotiations to include a guy near the minimum who may make an extra $100,000 because he had Boras representing him? I hesitate to throw this example on the fire, but doesn't Boras represent Crede? I doubt Crede's contract prevented us from signing any free agent. I think we are in total agreement that committing a huge chuck of your payroll to one or two stars is not a path to the post season. Baseball requires too many players, and any one individual will not have enough AB or defensive chances to make a big enough impact. So yes the Rangers are now the poster child for payroll management. I think YAS brings up an excellent point. In a sense Boras is also helping his clients to winning teams based on some of the smaller market teams passing. I understand the business side of baseball, I just worry when alongside height weight position played is the agent's name as an important tool in evaluating talent. Soon, players will be able to almost hand select what team they are going to based on who their agent is.

QUOTE(ChiSoxyGirl @ Jun 8, 2005 -> 03:44 PM) Lol, my sister and I were both supposed to boys. Hopefully SS's turns out to be correct or he might have a little boy sleeping in a pink room. How do we know you aren't a guy pretending to be a Soxy?

Sometimes our absolute desire to protect the innocent makes us look stupid. :headshake

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jun 8, 2005 -> 08:12 AM) But money shouldn't be the ONLY factor in negotiations is what I'm trying to get at. Teams have budgets, Bora$$ has an idea that teams have a big revenue stream that they should be throwing at his clients. Sure you could be getting some extra money, but would you prefer to be happy and winning, or would you prefer to be miserable? Look at Alex Rodriguez. Perfect scenario. The player and his agent should not be negotiating for the team, any more than the team should be negotiating for the player. Agent "I'm sorry Mr. TeamOwner, but I don't see how you can be competitive and pay my player $10,000,000. Let's make it $8,500,000? Does that sound fair to you? TeamOwner "No, I insist. He's batting .329 and we need a left handed bat. He's worth at least $10,000,000 that's only fair. Agent "Well if you can convince me you can spend it *and* be competitive, I guess we will take the money." QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jun 8, 2005 -> 08:17 AM) Look at the Sox of 2005 and 2004 and think about that question. You need more parts than 2 studs if you are going to win. You have to be deep. Unless you are the Yankees and Red Sox, it doesn't make sense to spend that much money on one or two great players, when you can get 5 good players for the same price. Teams are hurting themselves wasting so much money one so few players. I'm not arguing that a top heavy payroll is the answer. I agree that a balanced payroll, is probably a better path to the playoffs. What I cannot see is a player settling for less money on some hope the team will use the money to sign other players, who also would be signing for less, in hopes of getting other players who will sign for less dollars. That's a nice socialist system, but not a free enterprise, American dream way. And just having the extra money doesn't mean you will win anything. The Yankees have an almost unlimited payroll. If players started signing contracts based on lower wages so the team could sign more free agents, like the Yankees, there is no guarantee of winning. But my original question. Are teams hurting themselves when they refuse to sign a player based on his agent?

QUOTE(winodj @ Jun 8, 2005 -> 03:57 PM) Love grows where my Rosemary goes and nobody knows but me. Another great sing along song, but Rosemary!!? You work your side of the street and stay off my side. Bi is too damn greedy

QUOTE(YASNY @ Mar 26, 2005 -> 02:22 AM) I don't know. I detect a resemblance to the postman. Sorry Mr. Dean, but I'm a white Christian and I voted for Kerry. Does he want me to switch parties? I dislike all reference to races, religions, sexes, etc. and how they all must somehow support the same candidate or party. I'm a anti-Union Dem. I'm a pro-gun Dem. I am at times a pro-media GOPernaut. Unlike some GOPernauts who want to believe we can cut taxes and increase spending, I would rather see a tax and spend, then a spend and borrow. If McCain runs, I would be greatly tempted to campaign for him, regardless of the Dem candidate. Bottom line, any absolute statement would be wrong in describing me.

Small load, doing it by hand . . .

QUOTE(Queen Prawn @ Jun 8, 2005 -> 01:00 PM) Yes it does. We had ME on our last computer and I swore I was gonna kick Bill Gate's ass for letting that POS OS out the door. We have XP on this 'puter and so far so good. QP, looking at your ava, when did Nascar add hills? Are they *still* trying to make it a sport

QUOTE(winodj @ Jun 8, 2005 -> 10:28 AM) Every time I want my ants to leave, I just start playing my rock n roll music loudly. They just gather up my uncles and head out. Works every time. You are so not going to be the Exterminator on Queer Eye

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jun 8, 2005 -> 07:58 AM) But the thing is nowadays teams aren't going to be that stupid. Look at Colorado with Todd Helton. Bora$$ thinks it's ok for the a team to pay at least an extra half of what he would probably get with another agent. He FORCES his clients to go into the FA market, and things like loyalty, family and comfort etc. just don't come into play with his negotiations. If the Tampa Bay Devil Rays offered Mr. X $25 million over 2 years, while say the Yankees offered $17.5 million over 2 years (if he played for the Yankees originally, and enjoyed playing there), Bora$$ would advise his client to take the D-Rays offer, even if the teams sucks and has no chance of making the playoffs. Jeff Weaver and Stephen Drew did the right thing though, even though Bora$$ was desperate for them to stay in the draft, for an extra $2 million. That's how this guy works, plain and simple. Too bad his clients are too dumb to see this. Those that think an agent has an obligation to the team to make certain the team doesn't do something stupid, do you also believe the team has an obligation to make certain the player doesn't do something stupid like sign for millions less than the player is worth? How many people here asked their employer, when an offer was made, if the company could gain market share by paying them less? How many would take a cut in pay to help their company gain market share?