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QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 16, 2005 -> 12:03 AM) And with my 3,000th post I have decided to become the Roberto Clemente of Soxtalk. Farewell forever, for this is my final post. You will be missed. I'm setting the over/under at 6 days. Place your bets*. *entertainment value only. No actual goods, services, or cash will be exchanged. Offer void where outlawed. Not valid in Honduras, Antigua, or Wigglyville. Winner need not be present to win. Offer void before midnight tonight. Do not fold, spindle, or mutilate. No peeing in my pool. All chewers must spit in approved sanitation devices.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Jun 15, 2005 -> 05:57 PM) I totally agree which is why forcing people off welfare after a certain time limit has expired is such a good idea. Additionally it's for the very reason you mentioned that "social programs" are curse words to me. Of course Nuke we have a different thought on how they should end their dependence on any government program. Either death like in Social Security, or increasing their income via better jobs. Just kicking them off doesn't help society. Desperate people, those perhaps without food, are more likely to commit crimes. Then we pay via victim programs, prosecuting them, and ultimately housing them in correctional facilities. Each program should have at it's core, the desired outcome of lifting the person to the next level. This of course does not pertain to certain programs like the generous retirement programs we give to our public servants. I love how 40 year old guys can "retire" from the military at full benefits. Why the hell does a healthy 40 year old guy need "retirement" benefits? While people suggest delaying social security benefits until later and later in life, we have people who take a full pension, and start working in new careers, sometimes also for the government.

QUOTE(ChiSoxyGirl @ Jun 15, 2005 -> 08:28 AM) Well if And every one of them words rang true and glowed like burnin' coal; pourin' off of every page like it was written in my soul from me to you, then I suppose that cliche would be okay.... I do look like the silent type . . .

QUOTE(skidoochic @ Jun 15, 2005 -> 08:23 AM) LOL! You know how they know it's bedtime in Neverland? When the big hand touches the little hand!

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Jun 15, 2005 -> 09:57 AM) Accountability is a curse word to the left when it comes to social programs. Not to this liberal, I for one think that accountability is very important. Especially if you are making certain the program is actually accomplishing it's goal. Without some checking, these programs take on a life of their own, self replicate, and lose sight of what the goal was. The ultimate goal of these programs should be to get people off them. When we see second and third generations on public aid it tells me there are serious problems in accountability. Now I could be my usual smart ass and point out that social programs are curse words to the right.

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jun 15, 2005 -> 05:22 PM) Outdoor Life Network RAWKS! I liked it better when they had more hiking/backpacking information. A little too much rodeo and skiing for me.

they should be licking the crumbs from the crushed, empty packages of the middle-class kids. Dammit DJ, when will you wake up? Those kids need a strong lesson that they are inferior because their parents are raising them on public aid. Thenmaybe that cycle can be broken. The McAllen school district stopped charging for lunches a few years back. It was costing more to collect money from the few kids that did not qualify than the amount they were collecting. So Evil, there are kids living in very expensive homes, whose parents drive Lexus and Hummers, vacation in expensive locations, have memberships at the Country Club, and receiving free school lunches.

With the exception of when the whole black and silver fashion statement was hot, the White Sox have never been near the top of merchandise sales. If I ran the network, I'd be dreaming of a Red Sox - Cubs WS after a Mets-Cubs and Yankees-Red Sox League Championship series. Some teams are better draws. I'd bet the networks would also salivate over the Nationals getting in.

They should replace Jay with press releases from JR's office. Then Sox fans could safely read that page.

y'all's man-crush on Jay is soooo funny.

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Jun 14, 2005 -> 09:11 AM) Ain't the two party system a grand thing? QUOTE(YASNY @ Jun 14, 2005 -> 09:31 AM) Yes. For the Democrats and the Republicans. Which is why the American public never allows one party too much power for very long. However introducing a third strong party would make things worse. Imagine the grid lock with a third party wanting a taste :headshake

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...5061400342.html More at Link.

Come on Eye, you have to admit this one is funny . . .

QUOTE(ChiSoxyGirl @ Jun 13, 2005 -> 12:24 PM) Or a hold on while I throw up. Cliches are soooooo not erotic. How about something from an Italian Poet from the 13th Century?

If someone wants to trash the entire system as being abused by people who can afford big screen TVs and living on public aid, I am certain there are many examples. However, I'll bet there are many, many more who are not abusing the system and just trying to survive. I spent two years working on a program to identify job skills in a group of displaced textile workers. Their jobs headed further south to Honduras and other points south. Many of these workers had spent over 15 years working for the same employer, yet they really only had one year of experience, repeated 15 times. Their only skill was showing up every day and running a sewing machine. They were 40-60 year old entry level workers without HS diplomas. Needless to say, their job outlook in 2001 was zero. It is also difficult for someone that age to complete a GED before their benefits ran out. We could blame them for not predicting that global outsourcing was coming to blue jeans and they needed to upgrade and update their job skills. Silly people thought if they worked hard everyday, produced a good product, and didn't complain, they would have jobs for life. So my experience was largely positive and I saw how various government programs at least gave some people a fighting chance at saving their lifestyles. And Evil, obviously these people are heading to bankruptcy. Care to share with us how these people passed Rent-A-Centers Credit check? How many of these people defaulted on their payments and had to be repossessed?

I'm guessing that at this point adding payroll is not an option. I am guessing again that as long as we are in first place, JR isn't going to be too quick to increase dollars.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jun 14, 2005 -> 07:40 AM) Jesus his ankle is still swelling up? That can't be good. He's retaining fluid. Maybe a little Midol will help

Without reviewing all the managers and actually sitting down and ranking them, I consider Ozzie a middle of the pack coach who still makes rookie mistakes both on the field and off. I didn't think Manuel deserved that much blame for the Sox failures and certainly don't believe that Ozzie deserves to be higher up because the team is winning. Just telling the team to turn up the music when they loosse, isn't enough. I was happy when they picked him and agree he is going to be a top 5 someday if he can learn from his mistakes.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Jun 14, 2005 -> 06:33 AM) I didn't sit here and read through 18 pages, but I will say this. The jury was right. Those people knew he was guilty. Listen to them. But they followed the law. Proving the case BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT was the job of the prosecution and they failed, quite miserably I might add. You may not like the jury decision, but they did the right thing by following the law. If you want to be pissed off, blame the prosecution for the way they tried the case, and blame them for centering their witness testimony around a someone who appears to be a psychopath b**** (the accuser's mother). Isn't reasonable in the eyes of the beholder? Anyway, I was hoping that with all the publicity, at least he would run out of future victims. Then I saw the morons holding signs and praying for his release, and realize that their are idiot parents lining up to have their children play at Neverland Ranch and it just sickens me beyond belief.

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Jun 13, 2005 -> 11:09 PM) There weren't enough steryotypes in that post... LOL

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Jun 14, 2005 -> 07:18 AM) What is most troubling is that at the same time the government is making it easier for big busines to default on their promises in bankruptcy scenarios, they are making it much harder for individuals to seek bankruptcy protection. This will be an incredibly painful irony for all the individuals whose retirement savings are wiped out by irresponsible big businesses that are given a free pass when the restrictions are tightened up and the individuals can't file for protection. Why the country is not up in arms about this double standard I can't even fathom. I guess individuals just need to make bigger contributions to politcial campaigns.

Hey Kip, you missed this one

The problem we have here is a lack of public transportation to get to the grocery store. Most recipients have to walk to the food stores and suffer with poor choices, inflated prices, etc. Imagine doing all your grocery shopping at a White Hen (7-11, Circle K, Stop & Rob). And as Evil so nicely put it, there are also some poor consumer choices. They never learned how to stretch a food budget. Most of these people are not on public aid because NASA already had all the rocket scientists they needed. When the government proposed shopping classes back in the 1980s they were voted down as too costly. Many of the recipients cannot do the math to see if 4 for $1 is better than .29 each. They didn't know they could just buy a couple bananas, not the whole bunch. Things like that. Although it is easier to just think these people are trying to rip you off and are the smartest people on the block living in luxury. A few years back a study I read opened my eyes to a couple things. Based just on numbers, not percentages of the population, the largest group on public aid was rural, white, single mothers under the age of 25. Think Appalachian backwoods. Before someone states the obvious, there are more white females than any other category in our population. So it stands to reason they would make up the largest group on public aid.