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Is he? Well then f*** him! Have them give us Jerry Hairston or Melvin Mora too then.

On the arrival of Alomar, I believe Jimenez said something to the extent of "I do not want to be here, because I want to start, so I would like to be traded." He would not have learned a damn thing from Alomar. Harris, on the other hand, was more welcome of Alomar, saying something like "Hopefully, he can start, and I can learn a few things from him. I am looking forward to this." You apparently never watched him play. He had no range defensively(ala Royce Clayton), his arm was weak(ala Royce Clayton), his average in June had to have been about .150(somewhat like Royce Clayton), he had a s***ty attitude(ala Royce Clayton) and he was a lazy-ass on the field(which Royce Clayton was not). Maybe everyone will hear it here first, but I'll say it. I would rather have Royce Clayton on my team then D'Angelo Jimenez.

Didn't we slaughter Traber the other day? I know we atleast beat him.

If they want Crede, then they give us Kerry LIghtenberg and BJ Ryan.

I'd have to agree. Didn't Evans try to lure Frank to LA in the offseason? Frank's somewhat cheaper too. What's hard about trading Frank is the fact that he can go on a tear and carry a team for a good period of time(much like he did in 2000). He did that in June to an extent, and that was one reason we won quite a bit in June. PK, though he is clutch, just can't do that. He puts up solid numbers(like last year when he hit .300 30 100 or so), but he can never do it over a full season. He and Lee are terrible about that. I'd atleast like to see Frank get his 400th homer in a Sox uni, and then if we need pen help, I'd ask Evans for Shuey and Mota, and see if he gives in.

What could we get in value for PK? Absolutely nothing. Carlos is the first traded, because he still has value. If a team like LA wants to take a risk on PK, we could defiantely take on half of his salary and get a solid relief pitcher(do a package of Ginter and Konerko for Mota or Shuey). LA and Baltimore are about the only two teams who have had interest in PK, and they're the only two who will.

and doesn't Toronto have the best offense in baseball? Why would they trade away their only weakness(pitching) for more offense? Are they reeling in the lose of Shannon Stewart? Have you seen what Kielty has done since going to Toronto? If I remember correctly, he went 3-4 in his debut, with a big homer to left, had a solid second game, and made an incredible catch in game 3 to rob Trot Nixon of a homer. They aren't reeling. Kielty is just helping them get back into contention. The reason they'd trade their pitching is because they're looking towards next year. I personally don't see that happening. Not yet anyways

SUCK UP ............. ummmm now ya got me thinking lol yeah well dont think too hard.. its the only suckin youll get out of her...enjoy it while it lasts.... Are you saying Heather is all talk and no walk? That she is a tease? Why doesn't that surprise me?

I think the first one you are thinking of from DMX has got to be "X gonna give it to ya." I can't think of any other song that would be.

That was stinky

Why would we do that? Trade Lee if we trade anyone.

How so? He's been ejected like 7-10 times this year defending his players and arguing possible bad calls. That's not mellow to me. Mellow to me is Tom Kelly, who got ejected I believe 4 of 5 times in like 15 years with Minnesota. That's mellow. You're right, if you look at it that way. I mean, at the very best, a guy is going to get a hit 1 out of 3 times against a guy, and that's usually at the very best. However, there are exceptions, and on both sides of the coin. For instance, Frank Thomas is like 6 for 10 or 7 for 11 career against Eddie Guardado...he almost always kills him, or so it seems. Then again, it's kind of hard to explain how Maggs is like a career .200 hitter off of Joe Mays. Fact is, JM does go for the matchups and he does manage by the book most of the time....he just does it too much. Duh. That's his plan. I bet tomorrow you'll see Frank DHing and Kong playing 1B, with Maggs in RF, and it wouldn't surprise me if Rowand was in too. Why would you want to stick with something that doesn't work consistently? I mean, you never really did see a lineup with different people in it during the stretch against the Scrubs and Twinks. You may have seen a different lineup, but for the most part, the same people were in it each day. The fact remains that this is a team that is well-known to be inconsistent but potent. It seems one day we score 2 runs, the next we score 8, the next we score 1, and the next we score 10. You try to figure this lineup out. Like I said above, he's been ejected 7-10 times this year. He's been far from laid-back. I'm not a backer of JM, but accuse him fairly. A consistent lineup would be nice, but it is hard for him to do that, because not only has our offense not been consistent, but we have too many guys that like need to start, and not enough guys that can handle a utility/backup role. According to me, we have 3 of those types of players - Sandy Alomar, Tony G, and Harris(and I put Harris in this category because he can do numerous things well because he has good speed). It's like I've said before....we need to trade 2 guys to create more room for role-players. My vote goes for Konerko and Lee....Lee I know we can trade, because he is affordable and has shown that he has hit some this year, and Konerko, hell, I'd do a Benetiz-type trade for him(get little in return if the team that trades for him takes on some of his contract). I'd also like a set bullpen, a bullpen where guys know what they are going to do. The only guys who know what they do are Gordon and Marte.

Shake your booty

He's hitting 55 homers a year. I'd have to imagine he is swinging for the fences. You don't just happen to hit 55 homers because you are trying to hit the ball hard. I can only think of one guy that tried to hit the ball hard a lot of the time, and that's Thomas. And even now a days, it appears he's trying to hit more homers too. There are way too many home run hitters in today's game. I kind of applaud the Red Sox, because they really only have one real big-time power hitter on that team, Manny Ramirez. You look at that team, and most of them are .300 type hitters....I think their team average was like .290 something.

Yeah yeah, I know. I'll eat my crow

Maybe other teams will realize he is back and we can trade him! God I hope so.

we win?

Trade Lee and Konerko, and we win. I've said it quite a few times, but IMO, it is the thing that is keeping us back. We have too many .270 25 80 type guys on this team(and some put up worse numbers than that). You trade Lee, that opens up a spot in LF for Everett, and you can then put Rowand and Harris in CF. Trade Konerko, and you free up $8 mill a year, and you free up a spot for Dauber to get into the lineup consistently. If we do trade those two, I'll say yes, they do win. If not, I say no, they don't.

CW.....just read this now....so sorry to hear about this. No one was hurt right? It is small town America, but sometimes that's where stuff like this happens. I mean, in our town, a couple of my sisters friends blew up a porta-potty with a sparkler bomb. Let's just say they're lucky as hell no one was hurt. Blowing up a porta-potty could hurt someone severly, with all the shrapnel flying around. Hey, I hope insurance covers this, and let me just hope for the guy that did this that he doesn't meet you in a dark alley some night.....or maybe I don't hope that

f*** Jimenez. He's a piece of s***. :fyou

Overrated? Overhyped? Hardly. When this guy wants to be a great pitcher, he can be. I just think that he's become part of the problem in the clubhouse. When you get your ass handed to you Detroit, you obviously didn't try that hard. That has to be the first time Detroit scored 10 runs in a game this year. We have 4 guys in the rotation that want to win every time out, no matter what. Garland has given us like 12 or so quality starts this year, and that's after having a s***ty April. MB has rebounded very nicely from his early struggles, and now he's almost at .500. And ELo has been dominant all year long, minus two mediocre outings. Whoever has been our #5 has pitched well, they have just flat out sucked....and then there's Colon. When he wants to, he can flat out make hitters look foolish. He just hasn't been himself this year.

I really don't wanna think about that....but I guess that could be "fun," if that's what you wanna call it.

He's a better hitter this year then anyone on the White Sox, so does that mean everyone on the White Sox licks balls as well?

Two things First of all, we have too many power hitting guys for our own good. Getting rid of one or two of them will not hurt and the lineup could become more consistent. Second, we have a very big weakness in the bullpen and our #5 starter. We'd be killing two birds with one stone. By getting a guy such as Ponson, that would push Wright(who'd come back up from AAA) to the pen, where quite a few people think he may be more successful, and it solidifies the rotation.

So that way your bullpen can blow it in innings 8 and 9?