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QUOTE (ptatc @ Jun 19, 2014 -> 10:22 AM) The Sox already have a depleted pitching staff, why would you trade the #2 pitcher on the staff? The Sox will need pitching over the next couple of years. You are getting two pitchers in return, but I'm not entirely sold on the trade either. It's an idea.

QUOTE (southside hitman @ Jun 19, 2014 -> 09:37 AM) I'd probably do that deal actually. You take on a bit of risk, but Walker's upside is considerable. Alexei Ramirez and Jose Quintana for Taijuan Walker, Nick Franklin, and Erasmo Ramirez.

QUOTE (southside hitman @ Jun 19, 2014 -> 09:32 AM) I'd have a hard time believing we could pry Walker from Seattle for anyone on our roster not named Chris or Jose. I think if they are trading him, it's for Price. I agree, just saying that if he's available, you try and make it work. That is one pitcher I'd consider moving Quintana for.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 19, 2014 -> 09:20 AM) Unless he has moved positions, he's still a 2B, right? An Adam Dunn bat that can play even semi-competent 2B is a BIG value player. 3B right now, but that comes with a career .920 fielding percentage (though that's been improving) I thought he played 1B, so that's my bad. I think the thought is that he'll eventually have to move to 1B, or at least that's what I've read. If he can stick at 3B, then he can strike out like that so long as he continues to hit with that much power.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 18, 2014 -> 10:13 PM) The real question is now "Is Verlander an ace?" The answer is "Of course not." I know people get mad at my talk radio host type absolutes but I will say this as an absolute: Any team that signs a pitcher to a long-term deal is foolish. In fact, all owners should FORBID their GMs for signing guys more than 3 year deals. Look at Verlander's deal. Let's say he keeps this up. It will be SUCH a waste of money. Pitcher's today get hurt; pitchers not named Buehrle today are not durable for the most part. Long term deals are ridiculous for pitchers. There has been a physical change in Verlander's talent. His 96 MPH fastball with movement is now either a 90-93 MPH fastball with movement or a straight 96 MPH fastball. He has stuck with the straight 96 and gotten beat for it. If he makes the adjustment and goes to a fastball with less velocity and more movement, I have no doubt he'll be back, but he has to make the adjustment first. I don't give a f*** about Verlander though. You dodged my question: is Stephen Strasburg an ace?

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 19, 2014 -> 12:33 AM) Kershaw has been erratic (compared to past seasons) this year but he's still unquestionably one of the top 3 pitchers in the game today. And the Giants are going to mess around and let the Dodgers inch back into the race, breathe some life back into them. 10 GS, 2.52 ERA, 0.92 WHIP, 64.1 IP, 12 K/9, 1.1 BB/9, 10.75 K/BB (which may be the best ever). He's had 1 bad start. Saying he's been erratic is like saying Chris Sale has been erratic. I mean, I just don't understand how you can say he's been erratic even compared to previous years. He's been dialed all year long.

I'd find out if Walker is available at all. If they're willing to even discuss him, even if you have to work to get him, you have to try and find a combination that will get that move made.

QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Jun 18, 2014 -> 08:22 PM) Future grades are supposed to have at least some level of realism. I listen to a decent amount of scouting podcasts and when they're extremely excited about a pitch, one they think could be elite, they'll hang a 70 on it. 80 is basically seen as generational. I haven't heard anyone get close to a 70 on Rodon's fastball, never mind an 80. Yeah, I agree. In his prime, Pedro probably had close to an 80 fastball, 80 changeup, 70 slider, and 65-70 command.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Jun 19, 2014 -> 01:01 AM) Can we talk about Joey Gallo for a second? Between A+ and AA, he is hitting .320 with 25 HR with 60 BB in 58 games this season. His OBP is .463. His OPS is 1.198. He just got promoted to AA, has only played 9 games there, and has 4 HR and 10 RBI. I mean, this guy is homering every 8.6 AB. I know everyone is riding Kris Bryant's dick, and Bryant has done his dirty work in AA the entire year, but s*** man, Gallo is nearly 2 full years younger. He is going to be a top 10 prospect in baseball next year. The primary concern with Gallo is a 32.3% K% thus far in the minors with no real signs of slowing down. Just looking at the numbers, I think his game compares favorably to Adam Dunn, which is not a bad thing at all, just that I'm not sure he's a top 10 prospect.

QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Jun 18, 2014 -> 10:31 PM) Can't believe we traded Juan Silverio for organizational depth...look at him now, great move KW/Hahn, kid will make it to the show and be successful before we know, while our return is outta baseball wat

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 18, 2014 -> 09:17 PM) The numbers haven't caught up with his last five outings. This is something for the eye test. Last 5 starts - 35.1 IP, 24 H, 9 BB, 21 K, 2 HR, 1.51 ERA, 0.93 WHIP, .188/.262/.297/.559, .210 BABIP There is a lot of noise in those numbers, but there's also a lot of luck. However, worth mentioning far more - and an alarming number - are the LD%/GB%/FB% (respectively listed below) numbers in those starts NYY - 8.3%/50.0%/41.7% SD - 18.2%/54.5%/27.3% LAD - 12.5%/50.0%/37.5% DET - 23.8%/19.0%/57.1% SF - 23.8%/23.8%/52.4% He has been giving up a ton of line drives and fly balls. That doesn't need an eye test to tell you that those will turn into a blow up sooner rather than later. The first 3, yes, it's completely understandable why he pitched so well, especially against New York, but Detroit and San Francisco hit him around pretty good and he needs to start throwing more ground balls.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 18, 2014 -> 09:02 PM) I tell u. Ozzie certainly has been humbled by all this. I bet if he gets a job in baseball again he'll finally shut up with the media. Everybody knows he's a great baseball mind. If he gets a second chance, my bet is he tones down the ego. I bet he doesn't. You may as well pay me now.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jun 18, 2014 -> 06:28 PM) He's baaaaaaaaaaaack And he's moist.

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QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jun 18, 2014 -> 05:08 PM) I still want to know why every girl I know absolutely despises this word. There are a lot of people I know that hate the word too. Maybe it's because I use it in bed.

QUOTE (Baron @ Jun 18, 2014 -> 04:40 PM) So we get swept by KC but sweep the Giants....interesting To be fair, KC is sweeping pretty much everyone they're playing right now.

I hope he signs with Minnesota or Sacramento or something stupid like that.

If the price were Micah Johnson, Erik Johnson, and Chris Beck, I'd drive down from ND to take them to the airport, I'd wait there, and I'd take David Price to USCF for his introductory news conference.

QUOTE (PlaySumFnJurny @ Jun 18, 2014 -> 03:25 PM) I don't think it matters one bit how a term was "first used." Language is fluid, and what matters is how it's understood today. "f**" used to refer to a cigarette. Queer used to mean eccentric too.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Jun 18, 2014 -> 03:25 PM) What do Moderaters do? Moderate stuff

It's not the worst argument I've ever heard, but that's assuming they have different contractual obligations. If I can sign either David Price or Jeff Samardzija for 3 years, there's no question it's going to be Price.

QUOTE (chisoxfan310 @ Jun 18, 2014 -> 01:41 PM) Danks was hitting around .160 in the minors and when he was up here under .200 so no they don't already have that. For all intents and purposes, Danks is a .200 hitting defensive minded outfielder. The comparison works just fine.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jun 18, 2014 -> 11:40 AM) Then I guess someone needs to tell De Aza and his .200 average that. Splits Alejandro De Aza 2012 - .281/.349/.410/.760, 585 PAs 2013 - .264/.323/.405/.728, 675 PAs Grady Sizemore 2012 - .000/.000/.000/.000, 0 PAs 2013 - .000/.000/.000/.000, 0 PAs At least De Aza has recent history of success.

QUOTE (glangon @ Jun 18, 2014 -> 11:03 AM) I never checked the stats but whenever I've payed attention to him pitching its usually between 6 and 6.2 innings pitched. It's nice too see he has 2 complete games. This is an example of the eye test failing.