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Go to whitesoxr/whitesox15 hr. agoby maicunni Join Chris Getz Boycott "If the Sox name Chris Getz the new VP or GM, I am going to boycott the White Sox as hard as possible. I am not going to any more home or away games. I am not watching them on TV. I am going to unfollow and unsubscribe from every White Sox podcast and social media feed. The last 10 years have been a complete joke. The entire time we were told they knew what they were doing when it was obvious they did not. I am tired of being told tier 3 free agents who sign for $75m or less are a big deal. I am tired of being told it’s a culture thing. I am tired of being told young guys who have never proven anything are stars. Stars do things like hit 40 plus bombs, win 20 games, drive in 100 runs, win gold gloves, bat over 300. The Sox cannot compete in the worst division in baseball where no other franchise is trying to win. My expectations are not that high. They need to bring in a proven baseball mind from a winning organization and let him or her clean house. Rant over."

See article above. He has been around the Sox and Royals...basically the two teams in baseball mired in the worst possible situations that don't even know who to blame or how to fire someone from their staffs due to misguided notions of loyalty and the good 'ol boys club...looking out for each other. I swear they're going to end up bringing Buddy Bell or Dayton Moore into the fold as Getz's mentor even though he theoretically has to be prepared to hit the ground running...with little else to learn from managing the very worst farm system in the game up until two months ago.

This sounds incredibly familiar... "But you cannot look me in the eye and tell me that the front office, as currently constructed, is the best version of the Royals front office. If it was frustrating to watch the Moore baseball ops administration fail to change with the times, it was equally frustrating to watch, in a golden opportunity, the Royals decline to bring on new talent into key positions in the front office. Instead, the Royals have elected to promote from within and maintain the same group of individuals who presided over the awful situation the club occupies. The result is this list of names of the vice presidents and/or assistant general managers on the baseball operations side of the department and, importantly, when they first joined the front office: Jin Wong, VP & AGM: 2000 JJ Picollo, EVP & GM: 2006 Scott Sharp, SVP & AGM: 2006 Gene Watson, VP & AGM: 2006 Rene Francisco, SVP & AGM: 2006 Lonnie Goldberg, VP: 2011 Daniel Mack, VP & AGM: 2013 All this losing, and yet you can see that the core leaders in the front office are entirely unchanged from the Moore administration. Indeed, four of them—Picollo, Sharp, Watson, and Francisco—were some of Moore’s very first hires. Goldberg was an old college buddy of Moore and Picollo. This is not to say that every member of that list deserves to have been fired yesterday. Rather, it’s a snapshot of an organization whose core decision-makers have stayed consistent even after the team’s performance has cratered following a collection of poor baseball decisions made, at least partially, by this group of leaders. See, it’s not enough to modernize operations and incorporate analytics into a decision-making process. To credit Picollo, he has done just that—the Royals are in a better spot than they were before. Unfortunately, this is a zero sum game: every other team in baseball is trying to do the same. For the Royals to succeed, they need to change processes and improve organizationally faster than other organizations. Let’s say that Picollo has the correct, optimal vision for the team, which itself is not a given. How are the Royals supposed to be better than other teams with the same people that got them into this mess in the first place? Without any new blood? This is a results-oriented business. The results suck. They suck up and down the organization, objectively, in the kind of way that makes it depressing to look at the next three to five years. And you’re telling me that every member of the baseball operations team right now is doing great at their job? That no other outside talent might do a better job or, God forbid, have a clearer and more objective view of the team?" https://www.royalsreview.com/2023/8/29/23849863/after-a-season-this-bad-the-front-office-still-needs-shaking-up

Magic answer to everything: emulate the 2014-15 Royals, including Sal Perez and letting Grifol have another year to prove he wasn't a terrible choice.

Davidson? Vaughn is as good as gone.

Boyer? Merkin? Reifert? No way JR could be bothered.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/wander-franco-reportedly-facing-third-accuser-in-dominican-republic-223040582.html

Grifol and LaRussa...both Hispanic origin.

Exciting new partnership with Bud Light coming right up...

Well, an MS in Sports Admin is closer than law and business degrees, lol. And I was the former Director of Stadium Operations and Public Relations for the Augusta GreenJackets in 1994 and 1995. I could even throw out the massive success of our new stadium and transition to an exciting new hat logo that led the entire country (at least MiLB) in New Era hat sales during that sales cycle. Finally, I'm not sure what attendant advantage Jeremy Haber has other than Stanford vs. the University of Iowa.

In 2019, when the Sox let go of Vizquel at Double-A Birmingham, Getz told MLB.com that Vizquel was an “ultra-talented player, very good instructor, created a good environment for our players. We just felt with where things are at, our player development system, that it was time to go separate ways.” Chicago Tribune So that means someone like Boyer, Merkin or Reifert was involved in the quietest possible parting of the ways. The problem is obviously with the underlined section

lead baseball decision maker tomorrow... the biggest question remaining is what his actual title is going to be? and how can they possibly sell it without bringing up the Royals, when that was supposed to be a BIG PART of the same reason that Pedro Grifol was hired, the 2014-15 KC WS teams?

Did you ask for permission first before outsourcing this critical task?

Moore Getz Grifol Hostetler Haber Buddy Bell

Cease for Kelenic and MiLB pitching headed our way this offseason...

You called her a Chinese woman, lol. Even if she was born there (which I'm 99% isn't correct)...she's currently not Chinese, she's American. Personal attacks and/or references to The Bozo Show are not allowed/tolerated by SoxTalk moderators.

Yeah, we just don't have the horses or the injury records to play that Guardians/Orioles style of baseball. 2014-15 Royals. Vince Coleman, McGee, Herr, Jack Clark 1980's Cardinals' aggressive style as well as the Wilson/Brett/Frank White Royals. Of course playing on AstroTurf or domed stadiums made a huge difference, thinking back to the 00's Twins and early 90's Blue Jays team. Now it's the Rays as well.

Kimberly J. Ng is an American executive in Major League Baseball. Chinese-American, ABCD or East Asian American.

At least we're not the Angels? https://sports.yahoo.com/shohei-ohtani-mike-trout-hurt-110005051.html Talks among other things about possibility the Big A was built on ancient Native American burial grounds and it was covered up. Also about a witches' coven that cursed Bobby Bonds. "Jane Newell, the city of Anaheim’s local history curator, couldn't verify a Native American village, let alone a burial ground, under the stadium when interviewed by Dufresne. Newell remains on the job and still has no definitive information on the subject. "I do remember directing Chris to the local tribal leader," she said. Dufresne learned that the Juaneños tribe lived for 10,000 years in hamlets along the Santa Ana River bed that runs adjacent to what is now Angel Stadium. Juaneños remaining in Orange County cannot verify whether the stadium was built on sacred ground because laws protecting Juaneño land from developers were not enacted until the 1970s. “A lot of that stuff was ‘hurry up and bulldoze the area before anybody knows,’ ” Juaneño tribal chief David Belardes told Dufresne. “They could have hit something and kept it very quiet.”

Still have Benetti/Stone for another year or two before Beckham/McKnight/Monaco. Obviously others like AJ, Pods, Big Hurt and Ozzie might throw their hat in the ring as well. Just feels 90-95% like Gordon with the Getz Connection.

Still not an 800 hitter even after today's 4/5.

Never thought the Chicago White Sox would force me to become a tOSU fan...but they're actually managing the feat quite well.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/news/2002/0921/1434838.html Nothing about Ligues drinking at Wrigley. Seems that it was clearly premeditated and telated to problems in his personal life and not merely "the White Sox losing."

See Rusty Kuntz See Ron Washington See Tom Emanski Who was that new age coaching guru we brought in for just one year...and it blew up spectacularly? About 2-3 seasons ago?

So we can't exactly spin that into a win for Getz...go Ashlyn I guess?