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Back to that phrase “nationally renowned” which goes along with demand and ratings/views. Benetti was one of the few anything “national” about the Sox since the return of TLR which was not negative or embarrassing. Well, I guess he was too embarrassing for elites, aka the likes of JR Hahn and Boyer. Say whatever you want about the weaknesses of Bill Veeck and his under-resourced teams, but he always identified with the common fan more than the C-Suite types and always would fight on the side of those who loved the White Sox more than money or profit…like Benetti when he first debuted with all the idealism, wonder and awe of a newly-recalled rookie later round draft pick. Appreciate Sox Machine for having the vision and foresight to invest (the new stadium project has sucked many back in it seems) during one of those really dark times in team history. And Josh Nelson needs to update his approach to be less like the written version of grumpy Hawk Harrelson. Don’t be a homer all the time, but also be fair when the front office has done something well. Obviously a much higher standard than mere everyday message board commentary from the cheap seats. Challenge/scope of task in front of them is certainly a daunting one.

The activity got started Monday morning, when the Dodgers put some final touches on their bullpen. First, the club finalized a trade that sent left-hander Caleb Ferguson to the Yankees for left-hander Matt Gage and righty pitching prospect Christian Zazueta Jr. With Ferguson off to New York, the Dodgers had an open bullpen spot, which they quickly filled by agreeing to terms with veteran right-hander Ryan Brasier on a two-year, $9 million deal, sources told MLB.com. Incentives could push the total value of Brasier’s contract to $13 million. The club has not confirmed Brasier’s deal. https://www.mlb.com/news/ryan-brasier-dodgers-contract

“The White Sox have reportedly signed Cuban right-handed pitcher Yosimar Cousín to a two-year, $2 million MLB contract, pending physical. Source: Cuban RHP Yosimar Cousin (25) and the Chicago White Sox are in agreement on a two-year MLB deal, 2 million contract, pending physical. Cousin left Cuba in January 2022.” Let’s not forget this little tidbit. Lambert feels a player that could be gone entirely or the first closer candidate attempted before Leasure or Berroa (assuming they don’t start him at Charlotte).

Mazara had a 786 ops in 2019 with the Rangers. 800+ seems like a dream right now.

Royals FA contract: Alex Gordon, OF (4/$72M, 2016) Extension: Salvador Perez (4/$82M, 2021) FA contract: Andrew Benintendi, OF (5/$75M, 2022) Extension: Yoán Moncada, 3B (5/$70M, 2020 Athletics FA contract: Billy Butler, 1B/DH (3/$30M, 2015) Extension: Eric Chavez, 3B (6/$66M, 2004 Pirates FA contract: Francisco Liriano, LHP (3/$39M, 2015) Extension: Bryan Reynolds, OF (8/$106.75M, 2023) Also gave KeBryan Hayes a significant extension. Interestingly, Cubs have Carlos Zambrano at $91.5 million still as their biggest internal extension. https://www.mlb.com/news/every-team-s-largest-contracts

Embarrassing for the Sox Twins Guardians. It's like the Correa deal going sideways has now frozen their vision for the future. Greg775 will flip out about a rising in parking and concession prices in KC. Fits the positive vibes there with all the new stadium talk. Let's not forget they lost 106 games last year...but are still acting like a team planning to contend this season.

Like the Micker Adolfo hand wringing...as if the next Yordan Alvarez had gotten away.

Or the Dodgers in 2025...

How long will that realistically last? He will never be able to go on back to back days in 2024, so might as well go to a bullpen by VOMmittee approach ...

Second playoff run has a lot of value. One year you end up with Burnes offers, especially with Boras as agent unwilling to look at extension possibilities.

And you think the feeling of everyone who was around in 2002 was complimentary to the Sox? They must have felt a sense of revenge in how that season played out for Wells, Frank Thomas and their season long battle just to get back to .500 after a 14-29 start?

Thus the onset of the Keith Law Grudge against KW and all things White Sox.

https://www.mlb.com/news/most-improved-players-mlb-projections-2024-season

Don't forget Liam.

Eaton and Avi both had good to great individual seasons. You have to go all the way back to Dye for someone who could hit and throw...just really lost a lot of range when he broke his leg. He was always a really big guy, but he moved much better with the Braves and Royals. We got the second half of his career.

We would just end up with Sheets there lol...is that more promising?

This makes a lotta sense if they all collectively decided Getz price was unacceptable...and to look for more realistic options.

Who would take the ENTIRE 2024 White Sox organizational roster of minor league pitchers as of today over: Kopech Giolito Dunning Cease Victor Diaz their FV’s aggregated on the day/s they were traded for? Nobody. Not one person on this board. Which goes to show how long and far the road is with only Cease and Robert left to trade and no Top 5 picks either.

Why don’t you also provide this superb service for SSHM, lol? Apparently you would likely agree we have enough quality young pitching, since 22 wasn’t even enough? Kevin Beirne makes it 23. It would take Loiaza/Contreras, Freddy Garcia, McCarthy and El Duque to push them over the top five years later.

Getz can’t afford to be stubborn NOR get a net return of zero…they will never be able to get to the point of contention without enough younger cost-controlled prospects.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/219091-white-sox-top-10-bust-prospects-of-the-last-20-years This list is ridiculous, but the 1998-2001 seasons had AT LEAST 10-12 pitchers ranked at 45+ FV and above. We’re not ANYWHERE close to this group or the 2017-2019 pitching ranks. 2000 system was consensus #1 in the game, also headlined by Joe Borchard and Crede Look at the bust rate. Matt Ginter, Aaron Myette, Barcelo, Jason Stumm, Kris Honel, Snyder, Brian West, Purvis, Karchner made it to an extent but fell apart/traded Jason Bere, Wright, Baldwin, Biddle, Parque, Rauch, Guerrier guys who actually made it Josh Fogg, Kip Wells, Buehrle, Garland There was another fringe top ten guy who ended up with CLE whose name is eluding me…

Rudy Law and Tom Paciorek and LeFlore worked in the old stadium…definitely will require lots of winning ugly like 1983. Still need power guys like Kittle Baines Fisk Luzinski though.

Reminiscent of 2012 under rookie manager Ventura feel…hopefully…but even that team had Sale and Q, a bundle of rookies with Reed closing, and then the last vestiges of the 2005 team holding on for dear life. Of course we also managed to overlook Marcus Semien being in that mix somehow.

Quality >>> Quantity

Jake Paul or Burger? Did the same thing coming up with Hector Mendoza instead of Santiago in another thread. As far as results with other teams, it’s because so few Sox prospects ever hit the ground running…yet seem to make bigger impacts across the majors on other teams. Then when guys like Beckham or Viciedo had decent rookie years, the sophomore slump got them. Nearly every young hitter but TA, Robert and possibly Burger.. That and the almost total dearth of prospects the last 2-3 years to look forward to.