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MLB Pipeline hasn't ranked systems yet but Fangraphs released their top 100 today with 6 White Sox and Grant Taylor checking in at #94. https://blogs.fangraphs.com/2025-top-100-prospects/

Been talking about these changes all year on the FutureSox podcast. The article from Fegan was really informative today. Highly recommend for all. Come on, man. You know Chris Getz sucks, the White Sox are doomed and everything is fucked.

They weren't planning on going 41-121 but they definitely planned on finishing in last place Right but it wouldn't have been enough at the time and I'm not even sure they would've gotten what I proposed. I just don't think trading with Robert that first winter with four years of control after the season he had was even a realistic possibility. I'd love to know what the offers were though.

I’m legitimately stunned by the discourse on this. It’s all hindsight. There’s no reason that a team would’ve seen that deal as a two year with two options. He looked like a total bargain after 2023. The Sox would’ve needed two top 50 prospects in baseball, another org top ten and another good prospect and it probably would’ve been seen as light in December 2023.

100%.

They weren't going to get value for Luis Robert on his contract with four years left though. Not everything has to be someone's fault.

It’s not this easy. They gambled that Robert would be good in 2024 so they could more realistically get a trade return with 3.5 years of control. Now they have 3 years of control. What type of package would you have needed in the winter of 2023 to trade Robert with 4 years of control?

I just think this was very unrealistic in hindsight. The offers for 4 years of Luis Robert coming off a 38 homer season would’ve needed to be astronomical. They would’ve gotten more than they’d get now but nobody expected the 2024 he had. Getz would’ve been crucified for trading Robert during his first winter in charge because regardless of the return, it wouldn’t have been enough for 4 years of a superstar.

Right. I'm pretty confident that they'll be able to go out and grab a first baseman or a left fielder or a mid-rotation starter or even a great closer. The other players probably need to be in your org already though.

The bottom line is that 5/75 in the largest contract in franchise history. They’ve offered other players over $100 million but that doesn’t really matter. They’ll offer players over $100 million again and I’d bet that Chris Getz is the GM who signs multiple $100 million contracts. They have no money on the books going forward. They’ll use free agency again. The biggest issue is that he’ll need to build a team of homegrown players at premium positions because ownership will never spend at the top of the market for star players. There are ways around that but you have to be really good at scouting and development.

It wasn’t even leaked by the White Sox initially though, it was leaked by the agent. The Sox signed Grandal and then they offered Wheeler 5/125. The agent reportedly told Hahn that they had a deal. Wheeler’s wife preferred the East coast and Wheeler took 5/118 from Philly instead. The agent leaked to media that Sox had highest offer because of future clients and a good relationship with Sox. s%*# happens. The pivot to Keuchel and Encarnacion didn’t work out obviously.

I actually do think velocity was a significant issue last season.

I think it's scary but I'd rather do that then trade him for pennies I never thought Cincinnati talks for that serious. As soon as names start to leak, talks are dead.

Good

Charlotte rotation likely has: Mason Adams, Jake Eder, Nick Natsrini and Jairo Iriarte. I'd rather just give those guys starts unless they signed a real guy like Quintana

I think the Nick Pivetta signing for Boston moving here. They lose pick #54 for Bregman but they receive #75 for Pivetta. They also forfeit $500K of international space. The Cubs otoh, would’ve forfeited 2nd, 5th and $1 million in international space.

We agree on this. I think it’s a terrible idea. Go to Charlotte and earn the promotion

Wilfred Veras has never been on the 40-man before

I'm in favor of making the actual prospects force the issue and earn the playing time. None of these veterans will be standing in anyone's way.

How would they be stunting the rebuild?

I think the Giants are just a terrible match prospect wise though for the White Sox unfortunately

No that's not really how it works. They wouldn't have burned an option year late last year if they knew he was hurt. These guys try to avoid surgery at all costs.

Thorpe has no structural damage currently. Tommy John right now would be a very surprising outcome.

I think Brandon Drury will be on the team as well. Curious to see about an out of options Lenyn Sosa.