Chicago White Sox

QUOTE (Sleepy Harold @ Dec 3, 2017 -> 05:04 PM) Brendan Kuty @BrendanKutyNJ Ohtani has told #yankees they won’t sign with them, Cashman says The rumors are true, he’s totally signing with the Sox!

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 2, 2017 -> 09:04 PM) The biggest problem for me remains - everyone said he couldn't do his first 2 months again on June 1. They said the same thing about his first 3 months on July 1. They said the same thing on August 1. He somehow then kept doing it. I don't know about .390, but there are levels of bat control and skill that can let guys have high BABIP. Derek Jeter's career BABIP was .350 and that is weighed down by his last 5 seasons when he started getting old. I'd be far more convinced if Avi had hit 35 HR this year, but Avi's career number is .340 and he was driving the ball better last year. He has always had strong bat control, he just never drove the ball until this year. Here's the basic trade off. This year, there are only a tiny handful of outfielders on the FA market. You've got JD Martinez at big money, a big trade price for Stanton, or the huge dropoffs to Bruce and Cargo. If you are needing to fill an outfield spot on a competing team and you can't afford the dollar amounts for Stanton or Martinez, Avi is a risk but he looks like as good of an option as Bruce, and maybe better. Read the article I mentioned. His BABIP was driven by an unusually high batting average on ground balls. If it were driven by him actualling hitting more line drives that would be one thing, but a big chunk of those grounders will likely turn into outs next year. His BABIP will almost certainly fall by a good 40+ points next year and that’s going to radically impact his offensive production. If he doesn’t learn to get more loft, he’s suddenly a 2ish WAR OF and that assumes his defensive & baserunning improvements stick.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Dec 2, 2017 -> 08:57 PM) It's sort of funny how a guy who hit .330 with near 20 HR's and 80 RBI improved his defense , his speed, his base running , cut down on his K's , had career highs in doubles , triples, HR, WAR, OBP, wRC+, OPS, OPS+, Total bases and was an All Star is treated with such disdain ,as if all those things just magically appeared without dedication and hard work to actually improve himself. Will he ever have such a high BABIP again ? Probably not but give the guy some credit. Hitting.330 and the rest of it is not just some result of the stars aligning right or making a deal with the devil . He no doubt improved last year in all facets of the game. However, his batting average was definitely fueled by some serious luck and when his BABIP comes back down to earth he’s not going to be a 4 WAR player again unless the power finally materializes. That could happen but I’m not banking on it and I’m not passing on actual value via trade to find out.

The Athletic has a great article on Avi by Eno Sarris and I highly recommend anyone with access read it. It might convince the guys who voted for Abreu in this poll to reconsider.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Dec 2, 2017 -> 05:37 PM) yolmer sanchez? Yolmer sanchez is quite possibly a 24 year old 2-3 WAR 3B that can play a solid SS and an excellent 2B as well. That dude would probably be worth a B prospect in a trade. So, I guess the joke falls flat? Now why they are keeping someone like May around is anybody's guess. Lip suggested that maybe we should non-tender Sanchez. The board got pretty pissed as a result. I take it you missed all this.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 2, 2017 -> 02:05 PM) Do you not remember the fan beating up the first base coach? Hardly forgettable or boring, it still gets mentioned by opposing fans. Don’t forget about the fan beating up the umpire!

QUOTE (Quin @ Dec 2, 2017 -> 12:40 PM) I'm sure he does. Keep the intellect of posters out of this. How is that a crack at his intellect? I have no idea how I could possibly have been disingenuous with my post, maybe if he actually provided some support I wouldn’t have had to ask the question. But whatever, apparently he can rip my character and I’m not allowed to fight back.

QUOTE (KagakuOtoko @ Dec 2, 2017 -> 09:36 AM) Man I can't help to think you're being disingenuous af right now. I have no idea what the f*** you’re getting at here. Maybe you don’t know what the word “disingenuous” actually means.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 2, 2017 -> 08:23 AM) White Sox only have 7 guys on their 40 man roster that are legitimate bullpen options for next year: Aaron Bummer, Jace Fry, Dylan Covey, Danny Farquhar, Nate Jones, Juan Minaya, and Gregory Infante. They will be adding a ton of pitching You forgot Vieira, but the point remains the same. And I didn’t realize Jones could be ready by spring training, thought he was going to be out longer. Glad to see I was wrong on that one.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Dec 2, 2017 -> 01:04 AM) Why do you think he's a "total fraud?" Just looking through his twitter history and the way he’s trolling the national writers on getting this one right. And the fact he has almost no followers yet he’s been dropping rumors across multiple sports for a long period of time. If he had sources, people would have caught on by now and started following him. I’ve seen other “insiders” exhibit the same behavior before and they were quickly proven to be frauds. I’m just speculating though.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 2, 2017 -> 12:44 AM) I'm open to a different transcript if one exists. The video sure looked like he went from one statement defending Moore to one condemning Franken. You have more? Did I miss something? Except for the fact Cruz is defending the people’s right to vote for Moore since the accusations are public knowledge, but he’s also not defending the underlying actions he’s been accused of. Obviously he’s a scumbag and I don’t agree with his thought process whatsoever, but there is definitely more logic to his comments than StrangeSox led on. As for the Franken stuff, his focus was on the hypocrisy on Democrats looking the other way on Franken. Again, there is some underlying truth to what he’s saying even if his motive is 100% partisan bulls***. There is simply no reason to spin his comments, they’re bad enough as is.

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Dec 2, 2017 -> 12:02 AM) Did anybody see this? Brett Moccia‏ @brettm1319 Following Following @brettm1319 More Sources: Wellington Castillo will sign with the #WhiteSoxs for 2 years 15 million 8:44 PM - 23 Nov 2017 Guy tweeted that over a week ago. No idea if that was an extraordinary guess, or if his source is legit, but he also tweeted out today that his source says Arrieta's camp believes they have a deal in place with Cardinals, but could take 1-2 weeks before it goes official. So I guess we shall see if he's 2 for 2 or just 1 for 2. Dude is a total fraud IMO and got lucky on this one. My guess is he deletes the tweets where he can be proven wrong.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 1, 2017 -> 11:22 PM) Or ... this could mean we will merely trade him this winter for more pieces. I wish I could respond honestly to this comment without getting banned, but instead I’ll just say WTF...

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 2, 2017 -> 12:35 AM) Please continue, governor. Are you disagreeing with me that StrangeSox didn’t quite accurately depict what Cruz said?

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Dec 1, 2017 -> 07:14 AM) FOX NEWS HOST TO @tedcruz: You cool working with alleged child molester Roy Moore if he's elected? CRUZ: Sure, no problem, that's up to the voters. FOX NEWS HOST: And what about alleged groper Al Franken? CRUZ: Now that's a very serious problem. I'm extremely concerned. Not that I agree with what he said, but could you actually take his comments out of context any further?

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Dec 1, 2017 -> 09:35 PM) How could it not be Abreu? Stanton's contact is a nightmare. Definitely could be, but it will be interesting to see what the Marlins get for him and how much money they’ll have to eat. Will give us some directional indication of Abrue’s value.

Interesting take from Jeff Sullivan from a Fangraphs chat today:

Great recap of the signing. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.yahoo.com/...-194952787.html

QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 1, 2017 -> 05:46 PM) Things that won’t happen: 1. Ohtani signing with the Sox 2. Machado signing with the Sox in a year 3. WBWSF saying something nice about Reinsdorf Why #2?

The Sox only have seven guys on the 40 man roster that could be considered bullpen options (assuming Fulmer starts the year in the rotation in place of Rodon) and Fry & Covey probably need more seasoning. So I think it’s safe to assume we add at least three more reliever candidates plus a veteran 5th starter. That alone could bring the roster up to 40. Having said that, at a minimum I’d rather have protected Guerrero over May. He’s so far down the depth chart that I don’t see what purpose he serves and I can’t see him having trade value.

QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 1, 2017 -> 06:54 PM) Supposedly it was down to Boone and Meulens, and Bam Bam is staying with the Giants. Aaron- don’t hire your brother. Lol, I was thinking the same thing.

Petricka non-tendered per Cotillo.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Dec 1, 2017 -> 06:16 PM) I think the guy is a stiff. No future. Rather give some kids a shot since they are still rebuilding next year. Some of them may prove useful when the team is actually good. What kids? Have you seen our AAA depth chart? It’s not exactly overflowing major league ready bullpen talent.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 1, 2017 -> 05:04 PM) Anyone think that we could get someone to take a trade flier on Kevan Smith? Give us back a reliever candidate or something like that? I don’t see Kevan Smith having much value, but I’d happily take a upper level relief prospect back for him.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Dec 1, 2017 -> 04:17 PM) Bleh! You sure like complaining about odd things. $1M for a guy like Farquhar to fill a spot in a rebuilding team’s depleted bullpen is normal course of business. We need someone to pitch innings and you’re not going to get anything much better for the price. It may be a boring move, but I don’t see how it warrants complaints.