Chicago White Sox

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 6, 2017 -> 10:10 AM) If you get an offer for a #1 or 2 starter for Rodon, you move him. If not, you move forward with him. Yup, totally agree. Just unlikely to get that offer until he demonstrates that type of ability over a full season.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 6, 2017 -> 08:32 AM) He's a fact of life though...there is not much use in trying to continue to avoid him as we did in the past. One other issue, I wonder if Kendall's stock has risen as a result of his recent play. It's not about avoiding Boras for me, it's about selecting a guy with serious boom-bust potential in the first round who is unlikely to ever agree to an extension. I was 100% for selecting Rodon with the understanding we'd probably only control him for 6 1/2 years. He provided a rare mix of floor & ceiling and was hands down the BPA at his spot. The same can't be said about Kendall, who may have the loudest tools but also has some serious question marks. If he was hands down the BPA or we were talking about a 2nd round pick, I'd be fine with it. But when comparable overall talents should be available at #11, I'd rather avoid the Boras risk if possible.

Is Kendall's agent Boras? If so, that's a big turnoff for me.

A lot of good pitching today. I apologize in advance if Cooper isn't actually starting (the Barons haven't announced starters), but it appears to be his turn in the rotation. Also, we got a couple of morning games with Kannapolis starting at 10:00am & game 1 for Birmingham starting at 11:00am. http://www.milb.com/scoreboard/index.jsp?c...mp;ymd=20170606

QUOTE (spiderman @ Jun 6, 2017 -> 07:21 AM) I'm not writing Quintana off after a very bad 2 months, but he needs an equally strong 2 months to re-emerge as the top pitcher on the market come July else there's no sense in moving him until he has rebounded. Question on Rodon for the larger group. If he comes back to pitch this season (and he is on track too by all reports) and show his top of the rotation type stuff consistently, do the White Sox trade him in the off-season? He's a Boras agent and the clock is ticking. If the White Sox are good in 2-3 years from now, isn't he a free agent after another year or two beyond that? Does it make sense to keep a guy around who has little chance on being here beyond his rookie/arbitration years? I think you have to be open to trading him if he won't consider an extension, but you need to wait until he establishes himself as a legit TOR starter and one capable of being that over the course of the full season. We still have control over him for another four seasons, so there's absolutely no reason to rush into trading him. His value can still expotentially improve with one dominant season.

QUOTE (beautox @ Jun 5, 2017 -> 11:43 PM) hell of a start by Giolito, I stand firmly on the take a step back from the ledge camp. Tall pitchers let alone ones that are being completely rebuilt often take time and Floyd and Halladay are recent examples of this. Giolito's last 5 starts 28IP 2.57 ERA 1.14 WHIP 8.36 K/9 Guerrero has been quietly turning it around once he got out of April. A future staff of Giolito Rodon Kopech Guerrero Hansen with Burdi, Fulmer & Lopez shutting it down out of the pen is something to dream on. Lopez should be the first guy called up this season and I think he sticks as a quality #3 type starter. I've defended Giolito all season, but he needs to keep this up a while longer before I peg him as the guy to lead our future rotation. To me, that guy is no doubt Kopech. He obviously needs more time to build up innings and work on his control, but you can't question his stuff and how incredible he's been so far in his short minor league career. Rodon should hopefully claim the #2 spot (assuming we don't trade him) and slot in between Kopech & Lopez. That leaves two spots long-term that need to be filled between Giolito, Fulmer, Stephens, Adams, Guerrero, Cooper, Dunning, Martinez, Hansen, & Flores. Giolito & Hansen are obviously the guys you want to work out, as they both have TOR upside, but the other guys provide a great blend of floor and ceiling. In particular, I have a lot of confidence in Adams & Dunning becoming major league starters in some capacity down the road. What's going to be interesting is to see how they phase these guys in over time. Come August 1st, we should have at least two openings in the rotation. One spot should go to Lopez, the other is up for grabs if Giolito or Fulmer wants to claim it. Otherwise, you're looking at more fringey guys like Danish or possibly Cooper getting a look. But with a bunch of legit SP prospects in AA plus the aforementioned guys in Fulmer & Giolito, we're going to hit a traffic jam at some point in 2018. By then you can expect another two spots being open and it's going to be extremely competitive to get those spots. At it stands today, our starting pitching depth appears to be in great shape.

It's going to be seven hits soon with the caulfield jinx in play now.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 5, 2017 -> 08:32 PM) Well, I'm not sure how 7 hits in 4 innings is "great/excellent" but if you're actually watching the game and have seen all those balls put into play, I'll have to take your word for it...rather than going by the MILB.com play by play. Seven hits? WTF are you talking about?

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jun 5, 2017 -> 08:28 PM) Infield hit in the first inning is changed to an error. Giolito 4 IP, 7K, 2BB, ER. 64 pitches, 43 strikes. Thanks for posting...was wondering what happened there. I can't believe anyone could find something negative about this start. This is exactly what we've been waiting for the last couple months.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 5, 2017 -> 08:07 PM) Typical mixed results for Giolito so far. 4 k's so far, but also a walk and 4 hits....lots of stolen base attempts (see Hansen), but was fortunately bailed out with two caught stealings/runners picked off. Lots of pitches thrown. And there's another walk, his 2nd. That WHIP number is simply not going to be sustainable at the next level. Somehow, the ERA has lowered to 5.26 but it has been fairly ugly going to get there. How are his numbers mixed tonight? Everything looks great so far to me. 4 IP, 7 K, 2 BB, 3 H, 0 HR, 43/64 strikes (67%) Seriously, what am I missing here?

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 4, 2017 -> 08:55 PM) Chance of being killed by refugee terrorist in United States is one in 3.6 billion Donald Trump expected to issue order suspending immigration from seven Muslim-majority countries despite little evidence to support it. Shouldn't we also be declaring war on junk food and heart attacks? Texting while driving or walking across a busy street? God I hate responses like this. We are literally dealing with organized evil and people like you make light of it because the odds of it ever impacting you directly is small.

Only the White Sox don't score a run there.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 4, 2017 -> 04:04 PM) How about the two batter rule? What's that? Pitcher has to face a minimum of two batters?

QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 4, 2017 -> 03:59 PM) Too much time between pitches. Too many s***ty relievers. Not much you can do about that.

A Frazier bomb + Robertson save would a nice way to end this.

f*** yes! Getting half a season out of him at this point would be a win.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 3, 2017 -> 07:59 PM) Heck of a start for Stephens, who has to be most underrated player in the system Very excited for his return.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 3, 2017 -> 04:57 PM) Just cause I like to try and use stats for my statements, the Sox have not been better than 14th in team ERA since 2009. We play in an incredibly offense-oriented park...

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 3, 2017 -> 05:44 PM) 2 I mean you're right, he's got work to do. But realistically he's probably focusing his efforts on the defensive side of the game like most young catchers do.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 3, 2017 -> 04:31 PM) 0-3 3K for Collins. That hit tool is very underwhelming How many of the K's were on swings?

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jun 3, 2017 -> 01:57 PM) Nice to see that Avi Garcia is his role model already. I think there are 26 million other reasons he picked that number.

Oh s***, this was the infamous Kenny Williams Jr draft. Yeah this one sucked.

Six errors for Charlotte so far tonight and none are from Delmonico! I guess it helps that he's playing LF.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jun 1, 2017 -> 03:10 PM) You're suggesting that we trade 9 mlb players off of our 25 man roster at the deadline? That is definitely not going to happen, we still need to field a team. Keep in mind that teams would have to make corresponding roster moves in order to absorb 3 MLB players in one trade. We probably won't trade nine, but I fully expect at least six by the end of August. All the guys with expiring contracts should go and that includes Frazier, Melky, Holland, Gonzalez, & Swarzak. Robertson will definitely be moved as well. And who knows, maybe a surprise is mixed in there as well. As for fielding a roster, that won't be a problem at all. Moncada, Delmonico, Burdi, & Lopez all deserve callups. And we already have a plethora of major league pitchers on the DL that will be coming back in the near future in Jones, Putnam, Petricka, & Shields. And that doesn't even include Covey.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 1, 2017 -> 09:00 AM) It was good that Frazier hit a bomb off of Sale, and you know Sale will vouch for him as well. It is a virtual certainty in my mind that he ends up with Boston. Yeah, it just seems to make too much sense.