Chicago White Sox

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 4, 2016 -> 01:39 PM) I'd hear stuff out but you're going to have to pay me Sale prices (with a cap S deliberately) to get Eaton away. Well yeah, I pretty much agree. Have to get a haul a for him, which is possible the way GMs are valuing defense nowadays.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 4, 2016 -> 01:27 PM) Eaton is under contract for SO LONG it only makes sense to move him if a team blows you away. There's no reason why Adam Eaton can't be a contributor on the next competitive White Sox team even after a rebuild. Eaton is where Sale was 2 years ago - if you don't screw up the next 2 years, you still have Adam Eaton under team control after a couple years of repair. He definitely can be, but he's also one of our three elite trade pieces. We have to hear out offers on him.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Nov 4, 2016 -> 01:23 PM) But not Eaton? All depends on what's offered for him. By no means am I giving him away, but I am open to moving him if I receive fair value. The reason I don't want to move the other guys I mentioned is because I think they'll all be worth more 4 to 6 months from now.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Nov 4, 2016 -> 12:38 PM) You mean if they dealt: Sale, Quintana, Abreu, Eaton, Melky, Lawrie, Frazier, Gonzalez, 2 or 3 of: Robertson, Jones, Petrick, Putnam, Jennings? They would definitely need to re-sign a lot of stop gaps. Whatever is left would probably lead us to the #1 overall draft pick in the 2018 draft haha I'm open to trading pretty much anyone. Only "core" guys I would be hesitant on moving are Rodon, Anderson, Saladino, & Jones. If we go full rebuild, I think you keep Jones and let him be the closer for four months and then deal him at the deadline. I definitely don't expect a full rebuild though.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Nov 4, 2016 -> 10:23 AM) Who out there would be considered young catcher of the future? I can't imagine many teams wanting to give up one of those. I'd be looking at guys like Kevin Plawecki, players who have struggled in the majors but have strong minor league track records and possess a signicant amount of upside. One of the benefits of rebuilding is you can give someone like Plawecki 450 plate appearances and not bat an eye.

QUOTE (shipps @ Nov 3, 2016 -> 08:52 AM) Dont you feel just a little bit happy for them? I actually feel a weight lifted that they finally got their WS win and this whole thing is over with. It may change the relationship between the fanbases for the good but I am probably just naive to think that is a possibility. What do you mean by "change the relationship between the fanbases" and why would you want this?

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Nov 3, 2016 -> 01:22 AM) It's going to be that way for some time. They kept the same non productive scouts, minor league director, coaches, everything that is not productive. They can't scout at all. I may go into Sox fan exile. There are other teams so there is no reason to lose interest in a sport you love dearly. I do admire what Ricketts has done. This is such a dream come true for him. I wish some other organization was interested in Kenny Williams. I hate the Ricketts, but they did everything right from an ownership perspective. Jerry Reinsdorf and his partners should be absolutely embarrassed that a new ownership group was able to come in, blow everything up, and win a championship so quickly. And yes, I'm aware the Cubs are a completely different animal than the White Sox, but the point here is that Tom hired the smartest baseball guy he could and gave him complete control of the organization. He didn't meddle in the club's direction and say rebuildings are off limit and he didn't force Theo to keep a bunch of people in the organization because of loyalty. I'm not a classic Reinsdorf hater by any means, but he is the single biggest culprit for our recent struggles. His will to win but refusal to back it up with the financial means necessary is a huge problem, resulting in half-ass offseasons that find us routinely coming up short of the underlying goal. More troubling is his unwavering loyalty, which has created an organization filled with group think and a complete lack of accountability. I say this all the time, but the fact that Buddy Bell is still around, let alone has been promoted to assistant GM position is clear evidence of this problem. Unfortunately, it's hard to be optimistic of this organization at the moment. It definitely feels like it's time for a new ownergroup come in and completely clean house. Short of that, hopefully Reinsdorf sees what the Cubs accomplished and finally allows for a rebuild. I know it will be painful for all of us, but I don't think there's an alternative. Another half-ass offseason without clear direction and execution could have grave consequences for us.

QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Nov 3, 2016 -> 12:49 AM) This God forsaken baseball season is finally over. I can't remember there ever being a worse ending to such a bad season. I'll always be a White Sox fan though... I'll never EVER switch over to that other team up north who I still refuse to name. Our FO really needs to get their s*** together. I'm sick of being bad. I'm sick of losing. I'm REALLY sick of being ignored. Same here, I'd never switch my allegiances, but if this front office and ownership group continues f*** up on a regular basis, I'm simply going to lose interest in a sport I love dearly. These guys really make it hard to be a White Sox fan right now and they have no one to blame but themselves.

The only way this Cubs championship will help our organization is if it leads to significant changes. And by that a mean a full rebuild. No more half-ass "going for it" offseasons. Take advantage of these next two offseasons, which should both be sellers' markets, and bring in an influx of talent into the organization.

Unf***ing real, even Miller is flopping tonight.

Are the Cubs going to go Lester in the 6th & 7th and then Chapman in the 8th & 9th?

QUOTE (buhbuhburrrrlz @ Nov 2, 2016 -> 08:59 PM) 5-3 SO YOU'RE TELLING ME THERE'S A CHANCEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Had to get a couple to build some momentum and get back into the game!!

QUOTE (fathom @ Nov 2, 2016 -> 08:48 PM) J4L is harmless All internet trolls are harmless, unfortunately they're also annoying as f***.

QUOTE (SpankyEaton @ Nov 2, 2016 -> 08:45 PM) It's unfortunate too. I bet the Northsiders go on a Bulls dynasty run and we will be almost nonexistent. Hopefully Hahn's plan is a good one. You mean his token "half-ass plan"? It's bound to work one of these years!

QUOTE (JUSTgottaBELIEVE @ Nov 2, 2016 -> 08:45 PM) You mean J4L? He's going to be especially unbearable on here after this game. That's actually the worse part about this. I can deal with Cubs fans, but little f***ing b****es that stir up s*** from behind a keyboard are another story.

The Indians need to come back and get at least one in the bottom half of this inning if they want any chance of winning. Have to start chipping away soon.

QUOTE (iWin4Ron @ Nov 2, 2016 -> 08:30 PM) Look at the bright side guys... this is all setting up for the perpetual doom that will be laid upon the wife beater... grand slam walk off! That's the dream scenario, but about as likely as James Shields winning the Cy Young next year.

QUOTE (fathom @ Nov 2, 2016 -> 08:29 PM) Why in the f*** is he still in? What a choke by Francona It's beyond ridiculous.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Nov 2, 2016 -> 08:27 PM) Don't give up hope yet Mike, have some faith in the baseball gods. Never mind, Francona is just handing the Cubs a World Series. What a f***ing idiot.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Nov 2, 2016 -> 08:26 PM) I can't believe this is happening. This is my absolute worst nightmare. Don't give up hope yet Mike, have some faith in the baseball gods.

What score did the start-o-matic pick for tonight?

QUOTE (fathom @ Nov 2, 2016 -> 08:20 PM) Agree they were tight and was kinda shocked to hear some of Francona's comments What comments?

Indians could use Miller, Shaw, & Allen 6 to 7 inngings tonight, not sure why they didn't pull Kluber at the first sign of trouble.

QUOTE (Baron @ Nov 2, 2016 -> 08:14 PM) Raja Davis have yourself a day QUOTE (fathom @ Nov 2, 2016 -> 08:14 PM) Indians defense is a joke What happened? Watching on GameDay right now?

Why the f*** did he keep Kluber in there?