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...I was being sarcastic (which, to be fair, is hard to read on the internet and I should have done greentext) The Baltimore package I proposed early in the thread was Kjerstad, Bradfield, Povich, Nunez. That was before a dozen teams reportedly started checking in on Cease and Rosenthal began talking of a "monster haul," cause now I've got stars in my eyes (what are the weird odds we could swap Hall for Povich?)

Suggesting Teel or Bradfield in Red Sox or Orioles packages would be completely silly. I'd never do that. Never ever. (I don't care if Teel got taken, still counts)

To be fair, Bowden's was a hypothetical.

Getting the D-Backs #4 prospect (per MLB, #18 on Fangraphs mid-season rank) as the top guy would be borderline baseball malpractice.

In retrospect (or at the time), the Bogaerts deal was just insanity without Soto or Snell locked up.

Bowden's Winter Meetings wishlist, cause we're starved for anything Cease to Rangers for Leodys Taveras, Cody Bradford, and Josh Stephan Eloy to Marlins for Jacob Amaya, Karson Milbrandt, and Jacob Miller

Elbow inflammation It's not the worst idea to package him with Cease if it drastically ups the return. I'm also not furious if they keep him since they have him for five more years.

I mean, his best pitch was getting batters to chase outside of the zone? Do we think the Braves are stupid acquiring him? Edit: Just checked fangraphs and he's had remarkably consist pitching types throughout his career, batters made even less contact in the strike zone and he through more first pitch strikes last year. Throw in a drastically lower FIP than his ERA and you basically come to the conclusion: He had s%*# fielding behind him. https://www.fangraphs.com/players/aaron-bummer/16258/stats?position=P

The fact that the Sox are burning payroll to the ground and can't get in the sweepstakes is disgraceful. Like we all knew it and there's no way Ohtani would have ever come here, but goddamnit Jerry.

Man, Oops! All shortstops does not look great in retrospect unless Preller extracts a bounty here.

Ironically, the players Getz has acquired so far (DeJong, Lopez) would make Bummer a better pitcher.

Last season was the perfect time to blow it up, especially to try and keep their pick, but man, "continuity."

No DeMar or Zach and the Bulls beat Milwaukee with 8 guys in double figures, P-Will animated, Vuc going off, and 32 assists (they average 22). Man, they should have traded those two when they still high value.

That's former 2018 #7 overall draft pick Adam Haseley and assassin of Danny Mendick, mind you.

Unless the Rangers give up Carter, such a deal would kill @SoCalChiSox

To keep us from spinning in circles, who are some teams we'd like to see jump in if things go poorly for them at the Winter Meetings? Padres, Red Sox?

Let's make it fun and have it happen during the draft lottery for no discernable reason.

There's also a pretty decent chance that if Romy gets cut the Sox can re-sign him to a minor league deal once you bring his health issues into consideration. On the other hand, players may attempt to flee the org.

My man.

Double Kjerstad, fwiw

Cause if you a set a price and a team pays it, you take it. Just make sure it's a good price.

Packaging bad deals with Robert while already slashing payroll would actually be the death knell for the franchise.

I don't think any team that can afford Robert's price would want to pay that price

Imagine the savings we could get with Danny Duffy and Brad Keller!

Ok, ignore my above post because I definitely misread you after prior posters arguing that Cease isn't even that.