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QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Apr 14, 2013 -> 09:22 AM) After listening to the score this morning, it made me wonder about the current direction of this team. If the Sox continue to tank and are 7 to 8 games back by July 1st, would should Hahn do? KW said last season that the White Sox are in the process of a modified rebuild. This meant that the Sox would insert young guys into the every day roster in an attempt to still compete in the process. Last year it worked. In fact, it almost worked too well. They were about a week away from clinching the American League Central before falling short. They let AJ go and inserted Flowers but they signed Keppinger and Peavy. They are bringing in veterans but yet involving younger talent. They traded away Quentin last year but kept guys like Rios and Dunn. Is this because they could not move their contracts or because they truly think they will be pivotal components to a winning team? The direction of this team is just flat out confusing. Quite honestly, if this team falters in 2013, (And I'm not saying they well!, its only April!) I want to see a many changes for this MLB roster. With exception of our young pitching, there is not one guy I would not mind trading away for prospects. I know it sounds foolish to just gut the team, but why do a modified rebuild and win 80 games, when we can do it the right way and obtain better draft picks. Isn't that the goal essentially? To continue to acquire talent for our below average farm system? Here is what I would do if they fall out of it early: This Summer: 1) Trade Peavy- His contract is reasonable and he proved to be a bulldog last year. We can likely get some mid range prospects for him. 2) Trade Rios- He is our most attractive piece right now- Can hit, play defense, run the bases- his contract expires after 2014 so he will also be attractive at the deadline. This Winter: 1) Say goodbye to Mr. White Sox- Paul Konerko. I am predicting that he will likely retire after this season. He had done it all for us but its time to move on. 2) Let Floyd, Crain walk via free agency. 3) See what the market looks like for guys like Ramirez and Beckham. Honestly, they have had more than enough time to prove they can hit consistently in the big leagues and have struggled for way too long. I am ready for a change in the infield! 4) Insert Carlos Sanchez to SS, move Keppinger to 2B and insert Connor Gilepsie to 3B. 5) Move Dayan Viciedo to 1B. 6) With the trades of Rios and the position transfer of Viciedo, this leaves two OF positions open. This would create room for guys like Trayce Thompson, Courtney Hawkins, Keenyn Walker & Jared Mitchell. Not to mention potential prospects that the Sox would get back in return from the trades of Rios and Peavy. It is time to go young, open up some payroll flexibility and move on. Obviously, if the Sox do turn things around, they can think about doing these types of moves in the winter..... I'd keep those two. You have to keep some good players. They are bad at going young. Scouting and development are not going to happen overnight. Let throw in the towel, so what if it's April. Get rid of Verlander, trade Fielder, fire Leyland....oh wait wrong team.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Apr 13, 2013 -> 02:15 AM) This thread is this early? Damn Derrick Rose. Best post. I wasn't too giddy about this season anyway since the changes made were from subtraction. I think this season is to find out if some players will have a future on this team.

Of course he isn't. What bonehead franchise in any collegiate or professional sport would put some one in charge with no previous experience?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 27, 2013 -> 06:58 PM) Maybe they could invest those profits into cutting ticket prices for 2013? That'd help a lot of fans. The sleeping giants is the fan base.

QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Mar 28, 2013 -> 09:08 AM) Love PK, but Frank was an absolute force, I think the steroid era might have clouded some people's judgement on how dominant Frank was in his prime. No brainer it's Frank for me. He was a great situational hitter as well. I think the steroid era also clouded Frank's judgement as well at the plate. It was all about knocking the ball out of the park. I hope in my lifetime I get to see another player like that come out of the Sox farm system.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Mar 14, 2013 -> 09:58 AM) For that matter, NOBODY would or could have reasonably predicted that Iguchi, Dye (coming off a major injury), AJ or Pods (also coming off a downward trend and "prematurely aging" with all the pounding from his minor league stolen base numbers) would have played as they did in 2005. I just find it hard to write off Alexei Ramirez based on one season where he still drove in 70+ runs. Alphonso Soriano rebounded offensively last year and how old does everyone believe he actually is? I find it funny how people are b****ing about a player who plays a position where offense production was never an issue by traditional baseball standards. We seem to follow this same cycle since production could be far better at 3rd, 2nd and DH. It's like blaming a punter for his lack of tackles.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 14, 2013 -> 09:08 AM) Wow. Buehrle to the Cubs. Without any reason for it to actually happen. That's what Roger does. Once you get past that it's a nice informative article.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 8, 2013 -> 12:33 PM) What I don't understand is you want to get rid of Ramirez because you don't think he's worth his salary, then put a rookie at SS, and then spend money signing Grady Sizemore, who hasn't been good or healthy in 4 years, and I'm thinking the lone reason is he is left handed. How does that improve the team in 2013? Many of these trade ideas seem to be helping other teams instead of the Sox. Sanchez might be a good player one day, but making him the everyday SS now would probably have one pining for Ramirez in a month. Not to mention, Ramirez' trade value is probably at a low right now. Some of these ideas make Al Davis and Steve Ballmer look like a genius.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Mar 7, 2013 -> 09:36 PM) Congrats your post was so ignorant it compelled me to make my first post here in years. The value of a win is about $4 million. The Sox are going to be paying Ramirez 26.5 million over the next 3 years with an AAV of 8.9 million. Even with his career worst year at the plate last year due to the paucity of legit MLB caliber shortstops and his solid glove, bWAR had Ramirez for 2.2 wins and fWAR had him down for 1.8. That means he was basically worth his salary (note he only made 7 million in 2012). I will concede that the arc of Ramirez's career is not promising, but thanks to regression to the mean all the projection systems have Ramirez somewhere around a wOBA of .300, which would add about half a win over his 2012 numbers -- assuming his glove grades out about the same. It's probably fair to project Ramirez for about 7 WAR over the next 3 seasons -- at 4 million per win he'll be making...about exactly what he "should be". The idea that Ramirez's contract is some albatross hanging over the Sox is ludicrous. You'd rather rush a 20 year old to the bigs (and starting his arb clock no less) that projects a worse WAR just so you can jettison a 2 WAR player (aka a solid starter) that is being paid a fair salary. I've held back, but seriously? GTFO with such non-sense. You must be one of great patience to be silence among this cesspool of baseball stupidity. When did this Ramirez stuff get started? I'm going to assume it's because he didn't belt 72 HRs.

I think it hit 80 degrees in Glendale. I found out Chicago is getting hit with a foot of snow. http://galleries.apps.chicagotribune.com/c...isory-pictures/ Scroll down and you can see the Cell. Cell

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Feb 22, 2013 -> 03:02 PM) Saints are not franchising Jermon Bushrod, he will be a FA. I know the Bears don't have much cap space, but that would be a big upgrade at LT. Those guys are getting expensive in FA if they are slightly above average.

I feel much better about the Dunn contract even if he hits .150/25 HRs, at least they didn't pay the money Cleveland did for Swisher.

QUOTE (BlackJack @ Feb 21, 2013 -> 11:45 AM) I've the Sox finishing in 2nd place with 84 wins. Typical Reinsdorf definition of competitive. Meanwhile the other team that may lose 90 games will outdraw them.

Nice wishful thinking article. The Sox have trouble beating the Royals. The Tiger have decent pitching too and probably a better pitching coach. I think they are still the team to beat in the AL.

QUOTE (3E8 @ Feb 22, 2013 -> 06:55 PM) Yep, we had the 2nd-fewest days lost to the DL. And Brian Bruney accounted for 20% of the total days. I just find that so hard to believe. Most of them seem to come down the stretch.

QUOTE (ScottyDo @ Feb 21, 2013 -> 11:11 AM) I mean, if we're to believe the fans, they exist but think games are too expensive. Setting prices at the point where supply and demand intersect = high school economics. Plus they don't have that must see player like Thomas and a short window during the season where they only have to compete with the Cubs for attendance. How competitive are their prices when it comes to the other sports teams? If could see a family who are casual fans passing up baseball for the NBA and NFL is there is a small difference in ticket prices.

I disagree with Peavy. Detroit was a much better team that under achieved. They were better than the Sox except for defense.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 1, 2013 -> 09:10 AM) What are you basing that on.........his AA stats? He could be but he has a less than .500 OPS in the major leagues and he's older than Viciedo. According to your previous posts, acquiring him would not be the best option. I would trade Rios for Olt for sure. I would trade Rios for a bag of balls if the other team took his contract. But this is another case of posters loving other teams' prospects while hating on White Sox prospects who put up similar if not better numbers. Mike Olt pre-2012...ranked 42nd best prospect Brian Anderson pre-2005...ranked 37th best prospect Olt's success is far from guaranteed. I like the wisdom in this post. I don't always trust this organization when it comes to prospects who aren't pitchers. Is Rios contract that expensive by today's non penny pitching Reinsdorf standards? Some of the adjustments made him one of the better players on the team. I'd take a chance on him being good this season.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Feb 1, 2013 -> 01:34 PM) Don't ask me who he is, never heard of him. Chris De Luca ‏@ChrisDeLuca #WhiteSox have acquired first baseman Lars Anderson off waivers from the Arizona Diamondbacks. I'm sure with that move everyone is lining up to buy season tickets.

QUOTE (Lamar Johnson 23 @ Jan 30, 2013 -> 02:40 PM) IF the Yankees are successful at voiding the remainder of A-Rod's contract, and IF his surgery is successful (and he passes a drug test(s)), would you take a flyer on him if you were the White Sox? If Jerry Angelo were the GM, this farce would be closer to a reality.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Jan 12, 2013 -> 12:48 PM) why didn't you get suspended? color me pissed. in any case, i give a s*** because 1) i'm compassionate 2) healthcare costs 3) if they start caring, the government and the FDA may just start caring more, which will help me get better access to healthier food. Investigate healthcare costs. Better yet go to medical school and let Reality 101 when you start your first internship. Government is better at fuxing things than fixing things. Your last statement also points out that the whole "living healthy scheme" is a monopoly. Wow! That industry profits from evil capitalism too. BTW this whole lame argument by CNN, if true solves the Social Security problem.

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Jan 12, 2013 -> 12:55 PM) most smokers are poor and we tax the s*** out of them. now it's reckoning day for the fatsos! tax tax tax tax. Really?

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Jan 12, 2013 -> 12:12 PM) There needs to be some type of fat tax. If fat people use Obama care they should pay a lot more in taxes. Smokers are taxed, fat people need to be taxed. I also think insurance companies should start charging higher premiums for fat people. Let the dopes running this country add another tax when they can't trim their budget? Walk into a public school where the kids are given a government breakfast. The government only requires calories. None of it is really healthy. The sugar content alone would be like eating 4 Snicker bars.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 11, 2013 -> 03:01 PM) I have felt they have been consistently overrated as superbowl contenders for quite some time. They are better than what we have seen(maybe a little bit), but we are told every year to watch out the Cowboys are back. I wish there were not on TV so much. At one time NFL owners didn't need to have a spot light. My theory is when this happens, teams regress. I assume the owner's godlike attitude makes it very unappealing to valuable front office people such as scouts. The Cowboys use the have the best. If scouts weren't so silent, the things they could say about owners and even GMs.

This actually makes me feel better about the Adam Dunn contract. How long will it take before teammates can't stand him.