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Only Dunn is fun bad. Everything else is just miserable. 6.5 games back at the beginning of August. I hope they play better and we can still find a thrill or two in the next almost two months. GO SOX!!

QUOTE (knightni @ Aug 4, 2011 -> 05:42 PM) Okay guys, enough on the semantics. The topic is done and over with. Greg was sincere and polite and it was not his intention to be creepy. Unintentionally creepy? Story of my life!

Sandburg no, don't want any cubbie contamination. Fisk? C'mon he has absolutely no coaching or managing experience. Just hiring a name. Maybe if he were groomed for it for a couple of years. Duncan will always be Larussa's pithching coach. Don can fly the Coop anytime would be ok with me. First pitch strike get ahead wow what a brainstorm. For those on this site too young to remember or too far away to get the daily feel, Larussa and JR have always been close. Larussa would come back. Hawk fired him I don't know if they mended fences. Maybe not and we can get rid of Hawk Harrelson too. Woohoo! what a coup!

QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Aug 4, 2011 -> 04:30 AM) Am I the only guy who would like to see LaRussa back in town?The dude's a douche but he's also a proven winner. I don't mind assholes as long as they get the job done. Douchebag winner>>>Classy loser Me too. I don't like LaRussa but I do like winning.

Death threats? Racist comments? Just make up what ever fits your needs. Seems like all the Guillens have big imaginations to go with their mouths. I can't wait for the mud slinging when they leave town.

2011 slip slidin' away

Oney is an idiot. We all know that. Seldom does a player or family respond to anything like this. I don't believe it was Mrs. Teahen, and I do believe Mark was taking a shot at Oney.

All in........or.....all Dunn?

Their national team could beat the Sox right now.

Things are getting ugly on most every thread.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 2, 2011 -> 08:55 AM) But not drawn and quartered....that's good. Maybe we can give him the Scarlett "A" for Alex on his White Sox jersey, since Konerko won't wear his "C" captain one. You know....I was thinking they should have Dunn, Rios and Beckham on the Dr. Phil Show with KW, Oney, Ozzie and Teahen. That would be the most anticipated and highly-rated Sox broadcast of the entire season. PROACTIV solutions would be there as the title sponsor with Jessica Simpson or someone of her ilk (NSS will respond that I should have included Bieber, Ozzie/Sharon Osbourne or Paco Martin on the panel). And exactly how many seconds would elapse before someone went after Oney with a chair? Hopefully security would let them get 2-3 good whacks in first. And then the mano-a-mano Guillen-KW bout would be the main event after the undercard. Its just possible you may have too much time on your hands.

I can live with a guy who gives 100% [Juan Pierre] but just can't get it done. Rios is some kind of prima dona who should be tarred & feathered and walked through the south side on his way out of town!

Dunn's performance has been bad, no doubt. Rios's performance and effort have been bad. That is unforgivable.

KW has messed up but also done some good. He builds an impressive roster but necessarily an impressive TEAM. Ozzie is simply a disgrace to the organization and by extensiom MLB. Many could give as little as him with more dignity and grace. He is a foul mouthed undisciplined festering disease that will bad mouth the White Sox [again] when he leaves.

QUOTE (TitoMB @ Aug 1, 2011 -> 11:41 PM) Ugh, I couldn't disagree more. Ozzie is easily a bottom 5 manager in the league. He has the baseball IQ of a rosin bag. No need to insult rosin bags.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 1, 2011 -> 06:14 PM) The bottom line on Rios is he should never have been acquired. Everybody in baseball knew he was a lazy guy who doesn't respect the game. You can't change people at this stage of life. It's all on KW. He should be fired for acquiring Rios when another team simply wanted to be free of him. Dunn isn't a fireable offense; Rios is. Dunn is a tragic comedy but he had a good track record before coming here. This is perfect greg775. Remember the Sox claimed him off waivers so the Blue Jays were fed up with him. I was in Toronto to watch the Sox open the season there last year. The fans booed him mercilessly. I wondered why. Now I know. He is a bum!

QUOTE (JoshPR @ Jul 31, 2011 -> 08:56 AM) It's gotta be comming from upstairs, this has to be the chairman's orders. Ozzie can't be that stupid....(I think he ain't) Oh yes....he is

When KW meant Chicago tough I'm beginning to think he meant how tough it is to be a Chicago fan! Rios ofer3 and loafing in the field. Forget cutting him he should be executed.

I started this thread and have now read some good observations. Almost all concern the money aspect. This seems valid to me as it would also be my main issue. 1. I'm not buying the weather factor. this summer has been just plain hot and the ballpark at night is glorious. All teams in our region have weather issues. 2.Not only is parking outrageous but I used to find street parking which is virtually impossible now due to the city instituting permit only and pay boxes within about 100 mile of the stadium. 3. I can't believe the White Sox charge much more than other teams, but some of you have opened my eyes to the fact that do. In a structured way. We do not go to nearly as many games as we used to because it is just too expensive. 4. The economy is bad in cities that still draw well. 5. I think a city with one team has complete focus and fan loyalty to that team and is not split. The sports spotlight stays on that team period. When the Cubs are really bad and the Sox are not riding high the focus turns to the Bears by mid July and baseball becomes an after thought. This city offers too many other [cheaper] options, especially in the summer. 6.Lets face it. Its about the money. Parking Tix and concessions. Thanks boys now I get it. As a footnote here they did draw 33,000 the next night.

The White Sox have some big names and are currently in the thick of the chase in the A.L. Central. The weather has been great for night games and the team has been playing well. The northsiders suck and are not a factor. A beautiful Friday night in late July against the Red Sox the house should have been packed. I know we have been down this road before, but why not better attendance? The park is beautiful and the experience is a positive one. I have been to more than a few stadiums around the country and the cell is above average. I don't get it.

1/2 game behind the tribe

Just when Dunn has reached fun bad status we trade him? Who else gives us so many laughs? I watch most every game and have started laughing out loud at his at bats. Its even more fun when he gets the occasional hit. On another note, maybe I'm kicking a dead horse but we have had a hole in center field since we traded Rowand. How many years now 5?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 01:20 PM) And Ohman. And Humber. And Teahen. And Morel. Who else am I forgetting? The obvious, Dunn and Rios. You could put Pierre,Lillibridge and Thornton in there too. Not playing Lillibridge enough when he was hot. Playing Pierre too much when he was not. Thornton clearly lacked closer ability early on. Also why does Ozzie sit guys when they are hot? He doesn't play the hot hand often enough.

He doesn't use late game substitutions enough. Especially pinch runners for Konerko and Dunn. If you are going to bunt then make sure the guy bunting can bunt. Coaching some in this area might help. How about making sure the pitchers hold on base runners better? This can also be done with coaching. Hold the coaches involved responsible for preparing the players to execute. Defensive positioning is not good under Ozzie. When do the Sox employ a shift? Do they hold any runner on second base. Ozzie leaves a lot to be desired but overall is about average in game managing. In my humble opinion as a long time observer. I think players fear what he may say publicly when he goes on his profanity filled tirades. His son chirping about his boss and his employer would not be tolerated in any other workplace. His act has worn thin. I don't think the players respect him or like him and also fear his big mouth and what his tool of a son may write about any of them. Walking on egg shells in the clubhouse because Oney may go public is not a good atmosphere. Ozzie must still supply Oney with information. Coaching and preperation are not so good. In game managing is avearage at best. Atmosphere and leadership can't be trusted. If he doesn't win now I would love to see a change made.

Peters hit better than Rios. He used to pinch hit and pinch run too. Not to mention he was a very good pitcher. Eddie Fisher and Hoyt Wilhelm were both in the bullpen and both threw knucklers, but Fisher also could and did throw hard. If I remember right the 1964 Sox were up by a game with eleven to go. They won 9 of eleven and finished second. The Yanks won all eleven!