Everything posted by ChiSox59
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Not Giving up Yet but ....
I have a hard time seeing the Sox sell off major pieces if they're within a couple games of .500. It's just not their way of doing business. Now, if they continue to play as they have since the ASB, then perhaps they'll make a few moves prior to the deadline.
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White sox may be reconsidering their stance of being non sellers
QUOTE (Lillian @ Jul 21, 2016 -> 07:18 PM) It is hard to imagine that they would trade both Sale and Quintana. How would they rebuild a starting rotation, with both of those arms gone? One of them does indeed make sense, if they can fill several holes, in return. I'm still leaning toward trading one of them and a few veteran offensive players, such as Frazier. The Sox would require at least one MLB ready arm in both a Sale and Quintana trade, as well as several other pieces. So they'll plug those spots. If you trade Sale and Q, competing is out the window and you give your new guys a shot.
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White sox may be reconsidering their stance of being non sellers
QUOTE (Soxnfins @ Jul 21, 2016 -> 04:27 PM) You want to know what would be such a White Sox move? Trade Fulmer for Lucroy, whom is conviently out of the lineup for he Brew Crew tonight. Hahn said today he won't be making any short term upgrades to the roster.
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The Second Wildcard
QUOTE (miracleon35th @ Jul 16, 2016 -> 01:42 PM) Too much is made about "making the playoffs." I would much rather not make the playoffs than get in as a wold card and lose the elimination game, or make the playoffs and get swept and humiliated in four games by the Mets. Lol, wAt!?!!
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Sox Looking for CFers
QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 14, 2016 -> 06:54 PM) I haven't looked at his numbers this season so is he worth Fulmer? Probably. I wouldn't want to give up Fulmer, but I wouldn't lose my s*** if the Sox made that trade. I like Fulmer and all, but I don't see him as a future frontline guy really. I'd try like hell to make a package the Rox would take without him, but Blackmon is a very good player and probably worth 1 top 60 type prospect.
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Sox Looking for CFers
QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 14, 2016 -> 06:36 PM) I'll be pissed if we're giving up Fulmer for Blackmon. Just doesn't do much for me. I know he doesn't play center but is Blackmon a better option than Reddick? If I'm moving Fulmer, I want an elite bat. Or more impactful than Blackmon. He's better than you're giving him credit for.
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Everyone points to Garcia, but it's Abreu's slide that's k
QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Jul 14, 2016 -> 05:27 PM) I'm sad about Jose. Honestly I think he's older than 28. He moves, looks and now hits like he's past 30. Kinda sucks. Jose has been fairly disappointing since 2014, but he remains a very good hitter that is a tremendous bargain. He is paid like a league average player and is much better than that. I hope this isn't the new Abreu and he's just in a funk, but even if it, Abreu isn't the problem.
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Carroll outrighted to Charlotte
QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 14, 2016 -> 03:38 PM) I seriously do not have any clue who is on our roster anymore. he was only on the 40 man.
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Sox Looking for CFers
QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 14, 2016 -> 02:40 PM) Well, for me if I'm unpacking Fulmer I want a bigger bang for my buck player. Solid, underrated, and under team control for 2.5 years is good but with the limited assets this team has to move I'd be disappointed in that return. Basically ask yourself this - does Fulmer straight up for Blackmon make this team the strongest contender for the Wild Card this year and put them in a position to make a run at Cleveland? If your answer is no, then that's not a good use of Fulmer. The multiple years of control is nice...but they'll be needing to find another pitcher to control for multiple years if they move him so that is a major downside come next offseason. Don't get me wrong, I want the Sox to hold onto Fulmer, but when he's legitimately your only blue chip trade prospect (not including guys on the 25 man), its going to be tough to get an elite offensive player without giving him up. Now, is Blackmon elite? Not really, but he's a very, very good ballplayer. I am not endorsing a Fulmer-Blackmon swap, only stating that I don't see the Rox doing it for less. Hope I am wrong there.
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Sox Looking for CFers
QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 14, 2016 -> 01:59 PM) Well he's not a good enough performer that you'd unpack Fulmer for him, normally you might think about a guy in the ~5 range in a solid system I'd guess but none of those guys are tradeable for the Sox since they were all just drafted. Maybe you could put together some package of 2-3 guys that the Rockies like who are lower ranked? I see absolutely zero reason why the Rox would trade Blackmon for anything short of Fulmer or Anderson (obviously isn't getting traded). I doubt an Adams, Engel/May, Gurrero type package would be enough to trade a vastly underrated offensive player under control for 2.5 years.
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Sox Looking for CFers
Blackmon would be pretty sweet, but he's not gonna be cheap.
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Rodon's Replacement in Rotation
QUOTE (gosoxgo2005 @ Jul 14, 2016 -> 11:05 AM) This guy doesn't seem very credible. You'd be wrong. He's nailed just about everything this year.
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Rodon's Replacement in Rotation
QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 14, 2016 -> 10:58 AM) Maybe the fact that his is making $1.5 million and hasn't dominated AAA makes his getting through waivers pretty simple. Or maybe they keep him around and work him out of the bullpen. That is sorta what I am thinking (regarding bullpen). Or maybe they are happy to save the ~$750k if someone does claim him.
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Yasiel Puig Trade Rumors
Remember when people wanted to trade Quintana for him? Gah, what a bad trade that would have been.
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Rick Hahn
QUOTE (chisoxfan310 @ Jul 13, 2016 -> 01:31 PM) I like that Gomez idea. Definitely the type of deal this team would make as opposed to signing someone else to a big deal. Me too. Buying Gomez on the cheap would be nice. 1 year deal with an option. Or even 1 year deal, and recoup a pick in a year if he's any good. Doubt the Sox will be the only team doing that though.
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Sox sign Justin Morneau
QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 10, 2016 -> 09:23 PM) Morneau didn't play at Charlotte or for BIRM. What happened? Thought he was going to get one final day of AB's on Sunday? Sent him home to spend time with his family one day early...before Friday's action started back up? Planned day off. Will be in action w Birmingham tomorrow.
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**7/9 Game Thread: White Sox vs The Not So Braves"
Need to get these next two. Braves are not a good baseball team. Teheran is tough. Hopefully they get him early.
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Countdown to the Trade Deadline..
Can cross Ziegler off the most. Boston picked him up last night for a couple A ballers. QUOTE (Real @ Jul 9, 2016 -> 07:04 AM) They need to be blowing s*** up, not adding more pieces to a broken train. 8 years without reaching the post season. Hey Sox, you're doing it WRONG. That ain't gonna happen until JR is gone. Time to face reality.
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Countdown to the Trade Deadline..
QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 8, 2016 -> 03:07 PM) They haven't been moving "their better prospects". They have been moving second and third tier guys. Tim Anderson is here. Carlos Rodon is here. Tyler Saladino is here. Carson Fulmer is still in the system. Steven Adams is still in the system. A 7 foot center in the system would be intriguing.
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Countdown to the Trade Deadline..
QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 8, 2016 -> 02:57 PM) My requisite post The Sox will never get anywhere if they keep moving their better prospects for 1-2 year veterans who have reached peak. Yes, it will meet the Williams/Hahn mythical "3 (now 2) year window" and it obviously would excite fans. But the Sox won't win. Some teams can do this sort of thing...those with stocked farms. The Sox system is thin, including, despite claims to the contrary, pitching. Looking for a catcher is particularly bad idea, as the marginal value of a catcher upgrade isn't as great as, say, the marginal value of a hitter, but the cost would be much higher. Thanks for your input. We had no idea how you felt on the matter.
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Countdown to the Trade Deadline..
QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Jul 8, 2016 -> 02:32 PM) The White Sox are in such an odd spot right now. They have a lame duck manager, are in the middle of an odd 3 year window that KW claimed last year (2015-17), are 7+ games behind the tough Indians, yet are only 2.5 games back in the wild card race. The question they need to ask themselves is-- can we win the World Series his year? As of right now, they are nowhere near better than Cleveland, so is it too risky to simply trade prospects just to go for a wildcard spot? A risk of losing pieces of the future for the possibility to get knocked out of a one game playoff game. Or is it the plan to acquire a veteran that is locked up for the rest of 2016 and 17? A guy like CarGo or Bruce? The way I see it, Jackson and Morneau are one year rentals-- anything you get from them is a HUGE bonus to 2016. However, they need to have the mindset for the future as well. I'm all about retaining prospects and possibly even adding prospects this deadline. However, knowing KW and Hahn and seeing their patterns this season, I expect a HUGE deal made at the deadline that will likely sacrifice Fulmer, and possibly Spencer Adams. I'm calling it now, the White Sox will either acquire CarGo or Bruce right after the ASB. I think you're probably right, but I bet they don't trade Fulmer. Spencer Adams very well may be traded. If they get Jay Bruce, its definitely not going to be at the price of Fulmer. Adams is probably safe there too.
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Countdown to the Trade Deadline..
QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 8, 2016 -> 02:12 PM) Brewers need a 3rd baseman bad since they have to rely on Will Middlebrooks and even Jake Elmore. If the Sox want to be bold they could offer Brett Lawrie or Saladino . If Brewers took Lawrie ,Saladino probably become starting 2nd baseman. Of course doubtful Lawrie alone would do it.Maybe also offer Trey M.,Courtney Hawkins. Lucroy is signed through 2016 with an option for 2017 and is still cheap . Lawrie only signed through 2016 so Sox would be gaining the extra year and better player hence the need to give the Brewers some controllable pieces also. Saladino isn't arbitration eligible until 2019 so maybe Brewers would prefer him over Lawrie. Saladino may be an interesting piece for them. Doubt they'd have much interest in bringing Lawrie back into the organization. The Brewers time frame for contention is well outside of 2017, hence why they need to move Lucroy, but also why they probably won't be interested in Lawrie - in addition to the fact that they've been down that road already.
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Chris Sale named to All-Star game
QUOTE (Iwritecode @ Jul 8, 2016 -> 11:49 AM) Would Q even be eligible for the AS game? I thought they had a rule about pitchers and how many days rest they got before the game. Like any starter pitching on Sunday wouldn't be eligible. Does that rule extend to Saturday as well? I wondered the same thing. He'd be on two days rest. Seems to me he may not even be "sub" option, which sucks. Davis still has to be replaced. Unfortunately none of they other starters are slated to pitch on Sunday.
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White Sox inquired on Catcher Gary Sanchez from Yankees
QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 8, 2016 -> 10:34 AM) With that contract, they would probably just give us McCann. That is an ugly contract for a guy who was just publicly labeled as an $85 million platoon player. At least its the strong side of the platoon. $17M in 17 and 18, and $15M in 2019. Still has an OPS of .771 this year; still won the SS last year despite the 3rd lowest OPS of his career. Could transition him to 1B/DH in a couple years. For being a catcher, I don't think that contract is THAT crazy. But if the Sox plan on moving Collins quickly, it probably doesn't make sense.
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7/8/16 - Braves @ White Sox - 7:10 - CSN+
Sale should have 12+ Ks tonight. The Braves are comically bad.