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QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jul 8, 2015 -> 11:23 AM) Urias is the #3 prospect in baseball, c'mon, you'd be lucky to get him if you offered Quintana. I'd rather have the proven LHP who is locked up longterm on a team friendly deal if a 1-1 swap.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jul 8, 2015 -> 10:59 AM) And who is that hitter going to be? Example of a hypothetical scenario? Just an example, I am not necessarily saying they should do it: Trade LaRoche to the Cardinals who pick up his whole salary and give us a lottery ticket. Sox sign Chris Davis in the offseason to be their DH for the next four years. Napoli and Morneau would be other options. None of them are perfect, for sure.

QUOTE (southside hitman @ Jul 8, 2015 -> 10:42 AM) Would be a pure salary dump at this point. I would rather see if he can rebound in the 2nd half. No real reason not to, it's not like he is blocking anyone. Fine. If they take on all his salary for this year and next, just cut your losses and sign a real DH in the offseason.

I am hoping the Cardinals take LaRoche of our hands in the coming weeks.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jul 8, 2015 -> 10:10 AM) Dude if the Jays offer Hoffman, we should either accept before we get off the phone or hang up immediately and asssume something's wrong with him. Reports on Hoffman since he's come back have been nothing short of glowing -- he's almost definitely the top prospect in that system. Dude, I am not saying I don't want Hoffman, you take the best player available, but my point is that the Sox should be targeting guys that can help on the offensive side. Our pitching rotation is in pretty good shape now and looking forward.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 10:04 PM) I still think they gave up on Micah way too quickly. Was his defense really costing us a lot of runs? I really can't recall him be THAT horrible in order to sacrifice him for a .160 hitter His D was pretty terrible. He cost the Sox at least a few games early on.

QUOTE (Palehosefan @ Jul 8, 2015 -> 09:41 AM) Hoffman for Samardzija makes a lot of sense for both sides. Hoffman isn't a can't miss prospect, but the Sox loved him in the draft and he still has the potential to be a #4-#5 starter in a year or so and could eventually reach his #2 starter potential again. His numbers are starting to improve, as he has 14 K's in his last 15.2 IP with 4 BB's and only 3 ER. Sox need hitting. I wouldn't mind taking back a pitcher, but the Sox excel at developing pitching. They should trade for offensive players!

QUOTE (Dunt @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 04:20 PM) Because Sano is the future at the position I doubt Sano ever plays more than a 50 games a season at 3B. He'll be such a liability over there. He's a 1B or DH - which is problematic for the Twins because they already have Mauer, Vargas and Arcia who are also 1B/DH types.

But Balta! And Dayan Viciedo. Edit: was supposed to include Quote of Melky stats the past month.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 6, 2015 -> 02:41 PM) Sale has to be the starter Kuechel's been just as good.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jul 4, 2015 -> 02:28 PM) Generally speaking: Betts is untouchable, you guys are treating him as merely a starting point for a deal. Swihart would be a realistic prized centerpiece, you guys are treating him like he could be the second or third piece. There's no way they'd give up both Margot and Devers, and probably only one of them if the centerpiece is a notch below Swihart. THey'd probably push hard to make on of those two THE centerpiece. Let me be clear: I'm NOT advocating trading Quintana. The best case scenario, realistically, is probably Swihart, Kopech/Chavis, two solid arms you haven't heard of. I'm not saying it's good, I'm just trying to be realistic. We need to remember that a young, controllable, above average position player is more valuable than a similar pitcher, and positional prospects are valued extremely highly right now. If that's the return, Q won't be traded.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 5, 2015 -> 09:42 AM) I understand what you mean. And I think I agree. Here's the problem. They have awesome starting pitching and are only 5.5 back of the 2nd WildCard. It's easy for us to say this. We don't know what Reinsdorf thinks though. If Reinsdorf doesn't want Hahn/Williams to sell yet, then they won't be selling. I think they let this play out over the next 2 weeks. They obviously believe in the team that they put together. I don't know how many games they need to be back to decide to sell around July 30th. I guess we'll just have to wait and see. Regardless, they don't have much to sell and they want to win again in 2016 It Is the offers that will dictate to who is moved. If the Sox keep winning, they're only going to trade SefuL pieces of it makes the team better in the very near future. Don't make trades for the sake of making trades! Bend a team over the chair or hold your guys.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jul 3, 2015 -> 02:34 PM) Guys, you know how we all make fun of those ridiculous bloggers who have ridiculous notions of their favorite players' trade values? That's what you all sound like. Really? One of the best 20-25 pitchers in the game signed long term to a very team friendly contract? Pay up...or you won't get him.

These proposed offers as brutal. Swihart would be fine as 1 of multiple pieces. No thanks to Cecchini, he is basicallly Gillaspie. Holt? Cmon now. Maybe Swihart, Betts, Bradley Jr. and Devars or Margot. Yeah, steep price, buytif you don't get a haul for Q, you don't trade him. It's that simple.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Jul 2, 2015 -> 07:21 PM) With our hole at 2B you have to have Wong in the deal Wongs D blows (nh). Nice player and bat to have at 2B but the sox need to improve their D, not make it worse.

I don't know if I'd take that deal if the Sox only had Sale signed for 1.5 more seasons at $30M per. And the guy called Sale "one of the best 15 pitchers in the game." Hilarious. All that needs to be said. /thread

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 2, 2015 -> 08:53 AM) The other issue that Quintana would become the Royals' ace. So in that sense, one might demand and ace's price. Royals have a horrible rotation. Their pen is great, but might succumb to the pressure and over-work. Wouldn't surprise me if the Twins take this division. Meanwhile, Royals look like a team to do business with. It would surprise me a great deal. They're terrible. The Twins will end up with less than 80 wins. Their hot start was totally inflated by an out of this world batting average with RISP. It was, and has been, totally unsustainable. Unless Sano comes up mashes 25 homers and hits .300, and Santana comes back as an ace, and Buxton comes back in August and looks much better than he did in his 40 at bats, this is still a very bad team. I'd be less surprised to see the Sox pass the Twins than the Twins win the division. And this is coming from someone who lives in Minneapolis and has watched a sizable number of Twins games.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 1, 2015 -> 03:08 PM) Eventually, the 84 or 86, whatever he is throwing these days, has to come back and hurt him. Probably when he signs a White Sox contract. But he seems to be, even with a few less ticks on the gun, the exact same guy he has always been. Yeah...but we've been saying that since 09. The guy just knows how to pitch.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 1, 2015 -> 03:01 PM) According to fangraphs, he has put up $57 million in value. I think his contract was for $55 million with half a season to go. One free agent who worked out. It would have been interesting if the Sox held on to him. Would they have made the playoffs in 2012? Would Sale have become a closer? Who knows. Wouldn't mind trading Q for a haul and signing Buehrls in the offseason.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jul 1, 2015 -> 01:16 PM) Nightengale coming on MLB next to discuss white sox trade possibilities Anybody get a chance to listen to this?

QUOTE (shysocks @ Jul 1, 2015 -> 11:50 AM) Cards start a 4-game set with San Diego tomorrow. Ahh...misread the schedule. Even more reason they'll do everything they can do get this in.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Jul 1, 2015 -> 11:37 AM) I don't see this game being played. I hope the call it sooner than risk everyone going to the game. I doubt they'll do that. They obviously don't return to STL, but both teams do have an off day tomorrow.

This game gonna happen today?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 27, 2015 -> 11:26 AM) I'm not sure we have a "reliable" lefty right now...and "sign someone else to a spendy deal" is exactly how we wound up with that current lefty of questionable reliability. What else do you suggest? It costs money to sign decent players.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jun 27, 2015 -> 09:26 AM) I would try to sell high on Putnam at the deadline. Might be able to get something of value for him. And if someone would take on Duke's contract, I'd definitely let him go for the salary relief. Agreed on Putnam. With Duke, the Sox finally have a usuful LH reliever. Yeah, he's overpaid a bit, but we'll be right back without a reliable lefty next year. Or else they'll just have to sign some ther lefty to a spendy deal Cuz that's the way FA works.