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QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Oct 21, 2015 -> 05:26 PM) I don't think that is as far fetched as you think. The guy has some serious power, his problem is he can't stay healthy and doesn't like playing in cold weather I mean, he hit 10 HR and slugged under .400 this year. He's basically Avi Garcia. I'm not holding my breath, in other words.

No joke, on 670 just now, Bruce Levine said Jorge Soler has 40 HR potential if he can stay healthy. Wow.

Did anybody see this one today: "Playoffs are not a representation of how good teams are, Cubs still best team in playoffs"

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 21, 2015 -> 11:39 AM) Schwarber, Baez and Soler for Sale. Probably would have to substitute Castro for Baez or Soler....making the deal a no go but definitely interesting. Maybe we could throw in Avi and Sanchez/Micah to get Soler back. White Sox sign Jordan Zimmermann. Instant title. Sale would of course end up like Mike Sirotka or Matt Karchner and Cubs' fans would be whining for decades. f*** no to that trade. Baez and Soler will not be good major league players.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Oct 21, 2015 -> 11:03 AM) I think the article got this backwards, the Sox have no plans to re-sign him. Have you heard anything else? Or is your relationship with your buddy still at odds?

QUOTE (Mike F. @ Oct 16, 2015 -> 12:17 PM) Why would they trade an established guy in Quintana for prospects just to then trade prospects for a guy like Frazier? I think they'll either go for it again or start rebuilding. Not both. Because they need offense at multiple positions. Mazara gives them another building block to add to Abreu and Eaton for the future, he has massive potential. Profar, if he returns healthy, gives you plus defense up the middle with Anderson eventually at either SS or 2B. Frazier fits the "3 year window" the FO discussed and would be here until the Sox could probably start rolling over the next wave of prospects (e.g. guys they draft this year if they draft college position players).

Updated b/c Im bored on my lunch break: -Offer Samardzija QO and he rejects it -Decline Alexei's option -Resign Matt Albers -Trade Q for Nomar Mazara, Jurickson Profar, and Luis Ortiz -Trade Micah and Avi for Derek Norris -Trade Montas, Adams, Trey, and Hawkins for Frazier, Bailey, and cash -Sign Trevor Cahill to a 1 yr contract CF Eaton RF Mazara 1B Abreu 3B Frazier DH LaRoche/Thompson LF Cabrera C Norris 2B Sanchez/Profar SS Saladino/Profar BE Thompson/LaRoche BE Profar/Saladino/Sanchez BE Flowers BE L Garcia SP Sale SP Rodon SP Johnson SP Danks SP Cahill (Bailey when he gets back) CL Robertson SU Jones SU Duke RP Albers RP Petricka RP Putnam Positives: -Keep all 3 picks in the top 50 this season -Keep Anderson and Fulmer -Flexibility with pitching staff when Bailey returns and Fulmer gets called up -Offense looks much more balanced Negatives: -Pitching staff is obviously weakened, Ventura will need to be creative with it -Profar may not return to have a healthy career -Bullpen looks marginal

Keep an eye on the Rangers as a potential trade partner. Their system is loaded with position players and their major league team is pretty set in stone over the next few years. I could see the Sox swinging a trade where they send Q for Mazara, Profar/Brinson, and Ortiz.

That Bautista HR and subsequent bat flip was amazing

Ugly, ugly day for Trey

QUOTE (South Sider @ Oct 14, 2015 -> 12:14 PM) I might suggest you re-read the quote. Hahn flat out says that Parent was responsible for any clubhouse issues. Ventura had no involvement in this and for me, it kind of confirms what Lip Man's source was telling him. No it doesnt. He says he bears responsibility for performance and some of the clubhouse issues. How is he responsible and Ventura isnt? In defending Ventura, Hahn said he, KW, and the players were responsible for the bad performance, not Robin. hate to say it, but Im losing my trust in Hahn at this point as well.

QUOTE (South Sider @ Oct 14, 2015 -> 11:49 AM) Rick Hahn quote from WLS White Sox Weekly podcast: "Parents a good baseball man and its unfortunate that we did feel we had to make a change in large part because of the performance and some of the elements inside the clubhouse.. which ultimately he bore responsibility for." Man, and Ventura gets a free pass. This FO truly is retarded.

QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Oct 14, 2015 -> 12:09 AM) Dalbec reminded me of Matt Davidson after watching some video of him and reading that report reinforces that comp. Do not want Yup, big time risk involved in that pick. Really hope he can cut down on his K's at school next season to make it interesting. I'd really love for Banks to fall to the Sox personally. It looks like we should have some nice names available for our 2nd and 3rd picks too if we keep them.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Oct 13, 2015 -> 03:12 PM) I think some people want the Sox to tear it down and get a bunch of young guys. Others want the Sox to acquire a bunch of veterans through FA. I prefer that the Sox do a little bit of both. 1.) One big expenditure. Preferably a guy who doesn't have a QO attached. For the right price, I think you can make an exception for a guy like Justin Upton who the FO covets. Seems like a lot of people are down on him so if you could get him for 6/120ish that's a nice deal for a guy who's averaged almost 4 WAR/year that past five years. 2.) Steve Pearce. He had a .233 BABIP which is 7th worst for players who had 300 PAs. His ISO is still over .200. You sign him cheapish to be the RH side of the DH platoon with LaRoche. He played at least 100 innings at 1B, OF and 2B for the Orioles last year. Give him a role in a position he should succeed in (hitting LHP) and if he excels there is more opportunity available. If his BABIP normalizes, which I suspect it will, he can be a great pick up. At the very least he's a cheap power option who cold hit 20HRs. 3.) Trade pitching for some YOUTH on the offense. If it's Q that goes, get multiple pieces that can step in and potentially join the core of Abreu/Eaton. 4.) Have an international presence. There is a big opportunity for the July 2 International period this year. Do something the team has never done and blow past the limits. Look to Cuba and Asia. I side most with your approach. I think the front office put itself in a bad position half heartedly going for it last season, but they can still salvage this to compete next season and be a playoff team in 2017. In terms of lining up with a trading partner that could deal for young offense for pitching, does anybody think that the Rangers and Sox line up well? Wouldnt mind possibly seeing a package for Q centered around Mazara and Brinson.

Engel with a BB and a SB so far in 1 AB

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Oct 13, 2015 -> 11:45 AM) Still going with this one, eh? I think that one is the most realistic of any of the trade proposals on this site so far

This move says everything you need to know about how short Robin's leash is.

@hoynsie: Chicago Sun-Times reporting White Sox have talked to Indians about 1B coach Sandy Alomar. ChiSox want Alomar to be bench coach.

Man, Dexter Fowler has been way better than I've ever realized. His career numbers are really solid. Him and Murphy are nice mid level options.

QUOTE (AustinIllini @ Oct 12, 2015 -> 08:36 PM) He has tolerated a culture of losing for too long. Williams still has an office in the building. You respect him for tolerating a culture of losing?

QUOTE (AustinIllini @ Oct 12, 2015 -> 08:27 PM) Not until Reinsdorf dies and the team is sold. I'm convinced that's what the team needs to build a perennial winner, which breaks my heart because I have so much respect for what Reinsdorf has done. What has Reinsdorf done?

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 12, 2015 -> 11:21 AM) The first four aren't. Iwakuma was very good again at the end of the season after being a top ten guy in the AL for ERA last year. Then, switching to the NL? Fister, if healthy, is a very effective fourth starter and potentially better. Latos picked up his fb velocity again and was much better after the first couple of months. Let's not forget how awful Cueto was in KC, and Shark in Chicago. Conversely, leaving the AL makes a lot of these guys better, like Brett Anderson now with the Dodgers (someone everyone laughed at signing). Heck, Chris Young would be fine, compared to $200 million for Price. By the way, the Cubs also might trade for James Shields and give up nothing much of significance. I agree on Iwakuma, the rest, lol. 2015 numbers: Fister 103 IP 5.5 K/9 2.1 BB/9 4.19 ERA 4.55 FIP 4.46 xFIP Latos 116 IP 7.74 K/9 2.5 BB/9 4.95 ERA 3.72 FIP 3.69 xFIP Beachy 8 IP 5.63 K/9 6.75 BB/9 7.88 ERA 5.76 FIP 6.16 xFIP Norris 83 IP 7.7 K/9 3.36 BB/9 6.72 ERA 5.04 FIP 4.29 xFIP Colon 194 IP 6.29 K/9 1.11 BB/9 4.16 ERA 3.84 FIP 3.94 xFIP Samardzija 214 IP 6.86 K/9 2.06 BB/9 4.96 ERA 4.23 FIP 4.31 xFIP Kennedy 168 IP 9.30 K/9 2.78 B/9 4.28 ERA 4.51 FIP 3.70 xFIP (Jeremy?) Guthrie 148 IP 5.10 K/9 2.67 BB/9 5.95 ERA 5.62 FIP 5.11 xFIP Who of those guys is an upgrade over Hendricks? That group is hurt, old, about to be way overpaid, or awful.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 12, 2015 -> 10:55 AM) There are all those guys like Zimmermann, Iwakuma, Latos, Fister, Beachy, Bud Norris, Colon, Shark, Kennedy, Mark Guthrie....why would they give up talent like Baez when they don't need to? B/c most all those guys are awful? Is that the right answer?

QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Oct 12, 2015 -> 10:28 AM) Schwarber looks like a once in a generation type hitter if you ask me, which nobody did. LOL!!!!!!!

QUOTE (daggins @ Oct 12, 2015 -> 10:05 AM) I agree that the Cubs wouldn't do that trade. They don't really need starting pitching and they can bring in a FA without giving up talent. W/R/T Montas, its not so much his stuff or command as his body type and injury history. He could work past that, for certain, but the odds favor him being a reliever. I would say Schwarbs will outhit Abreu next season. Just a hunch. Give me the guy was only the second player ever to hit 30 HR & 100 RBI in his first 2 seasons