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QUOTE (whtsoxfan @ May 26, 2016 -> 03:24 PM) White Sox are interested in trading for either Carlos Beltran or Brett Gardner http://showtimesports.sportsblog.com/posts...tt-gardner.html This person has zero credibility. He puts out rumors constantly hoping something will stick. He has had 3 -4 Jimmy Butler staying/going, several Bruce/Cargo rumors to Sox, Rmors on almost every position w Bears etc...................

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ May 26, 2016 -> 12:29 AM) Can we trade Robin for a bucket of bubblegum to be chewed later? How about Hahn for a bucket already chewed. Robin only plays the hand he is dealt.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ May 26, 2016 -> 10:34 AM) The starting pitching seems to have settled in a bit Eaton, Melkey and Frazier are legitimate threats You knew the pen based on law of averages would come back to norm and it seems as it has Abreu is workign out of it Catching defense is much better as is over all defense American League and Central in particular is not as strong as it was thought to be There is hope. Eaton was horrible on the homestand

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ May 23, 2016 -> 09:07 PM) Using this logic we should have never drafted Sale. Wrong. Sale was sent to Wisconsin for a season to avoid the 'florida syndrome". In fact his present day wind-up was developed in the cheese state.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ May 25, 2016 -> 07:16 PM) Good managers set the tone, make solid baseball decisions and put the players they have in the BEST positions to win games. That's how a manager is important. He is not the be-all / end-all but a good manager is damn valuable. Mark But again you say good managers set the tone. But John Farrell won a World Series but then has had 2 bad seasons in Toronto and 2 bad seasons in Boston and so far is having a good season in Boston. How can a manager have so many ups and downs. Would that not indicatethat maybe it is not him but he wins when the team plays well and loses when the team plays poorly. Same w Francona and Yost. Now maybe Maddon got solid results w mediocre teams in Tampa and very good results w good talent in Chicago.

Ozzie is over the hill. But Adam LaRoche is available.

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 25, 2016 -> 06:29 PM) Sox were looking like they had "it" at 23-10. Team was rolling and rattling off win after win and winning series after series. It seems like the Sox do more "weird" stuff than most franchises. Like play 23-10 ball and start to look somewhat special then turn to complete crap. Yes it happens, but what's with the 23-10? True at that point we hadn't started playing division teams cept for the Twins. Wait til Detroit starts beating us like a drum to go with Cleveland and KC. Will interest ever be lower in a first place team than after KC kicks our ass 3 of 4 or all 4 this weekend? Greg: I am with you in that I thought they should have taken Francona. But he was lousy in Philly, great in Boston till he lost control and now pretty good in Cleveland. So in the end, he has been bad, great and pretty good. I would say he is as good as the talent he is given. Same as Farrell and Yost that I previously mentioned.

QUOTE (The Mighty Mite @ May 25, 2016 -> 05:29 PM) I'm not sure, I say put Saladino out there everyday until Anderson is ready. Release Rollins, why the hell did we sign an over the hill SS to begin with. And while we're at it, it's time to say goodbye to Ventura. Your rationale does not make sense. Hahn decided to sign Rollins not Ventura. So we should say goodbye to Hahn.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ May 25, 2016 -> 12:41 PM) I want a guy to come in who has had previous managerial experience at the big league level and has won...not somebody learning on the job, a complete unknown or someone who literally had to be talked into taking the job. Even if such a guy isn't out there right now, that doesn't mean they won't be AND you can always try to negotiate with a team to get a manager even if he's under contract. Players have been traded for good managers in the past, one example is when Pittsburgh traded catcher Manny Sanguillen to Oakland for Chuck Tanner. Mark Mark: How important is the manager. I thought hiring Robin was dumb because he had zero experience. You say you want a ML manager w a proven track record. I submit 2 current names John Farrell--- was well respected pitching coach w Francona. Goes to Toronto and has 2 mediocre seasons of sub .500 baseball. Hired by Red Sox and wins World Series in first year. Next year w virtually the same team finished dead last. last year struggle again and then he is forced to leave for health problems. Interim manager comes in and Sox improve over last 2 months. Takes over this season and Red Sox at this point are playing very good baseball. My take---the team play determines his success since his career as a manager is a roller-coaster. Ned Yost---manager for Brewers for 5 years w sub .500 record and no post season appearances. He is fired and hired in 2010 by Royals. In 5+ years w Royals he has a sub-500 record but a 22-9 record in postseason and a WS win. Two guys who managed losing teams were rehired and have won a World Series and both are still sub 500 career managers. I think the team is much more important than the manager or his track record before he is hired.

QUOTE (professa @ May 25, 2016 -> 04:25 PM) I'm tired of the incompetence the Sox have at SS. Rollins just doesn't have it anymore and Saladino, while good with the glove, is just not an everyday player. Anderson leads the IL in hits and has an average over .300. I haven't watched any Knight games, so I'm not sure how his defense has been, but at this point with the Sox struggling at the plate, you have to think Anderson would fill the #2 hole in the lineup nicely. The question is, would calling him up this early impede his development? I know Soxnet projects his ETA to be September/2017 (last time I checked), but have the circumstances changed? No, you do not rush a prospect based on the performance of the ML team. When he is ready, the little thermometer will pop up.

I think Jerry will be very reluctant to let Robin go especially during the season. He was convinced by his basketball GM that firing Thibodeau would change things.

FWIW- I was listening to a Boston station the other day and they mentioned Hahn and his looking for an early trade partner. It may not be a coincidence that the Red Sox brought up Swihart very quickly after only a short period transitioning to LF in AAA. Possible showcase for Hahn???? But Sean McAdam, longtime Boston beat writer does not think there would be a trade till late June. He said every team's scouts are concentrating on the upcoming draft and trade talk is mostly back-burnered. Now if Boston is trading Swihart they will want a top SP back ( i.e. Fulmer) in some package deal. That is why I am not sure Boston is a great trading partner even though supposedly Hahn really likes Swihart.

QUOTE (Lillian @ May 23, 2016 -> 07:11 PM) That is a terrific post, "Dizzy Sox". I never thought about the tendency of the Sox to select "toolsie" outfielders, as a K.W. obsession. You may be on to something. In any case, you express my sentiments exactly. Thank you. Just say NO to Collins. He is a Florida born kid who played little league,high school and college in Florida. He has never played a season in a cold climate. He will wilt his first April in Chicago. He is better off playing for a team south of the Mason Dixon. Draft a cold-weather player. Any Canadians in the draft??

White Sox Magic Number to clinch Central Division.

QUOTE (Scoots @ May 23, 2016 -> 08:15 PM) Robertson looks very hittable right now I guess you need better eyes.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 23, 2016 -> 08:02 PM) Coop only has 99.9 percent of it. You still don't want to burn both of your late inning guys in the first game of a DH if you don't have to. Agree. The coaching staff does not pull names out of a hat. They go into games with several plans on the relievers based on the opponent, score as well as the previous workload of the past few games. The bullpen coach and pitching coach give the manager the proposed bullpen rotation for each game.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ May 23, 2016 -> 08:26 AM) That was a big win. Picked up another game back on Cleveland. Didn't get swept. That's one of my goals for this team is to not be swept all season. I was doom and gloom all night Saturday and yesterday but that win got some of my optimism back because Rodon pitched well again and then pen was air tight. Now we have a huge 4 game series with Cleveland. Not huge this early in season. We know we won't be swept since Sale is pitching. So even if we lost 3 of 4 , it is only a 2 game difference. Now maybe we sweep and send Cleveland into a tailspin. After watching some of their games against Boston, I think we take 3 of 4. Napoli was awful against Boston so hope he keeps going bad.

QUOTE (raBBit @ May 23, 2016 -> 12:34 AM) The first time he played this week the joke was that he was coming off the DL. I would think Hahn makes the decision on Sands being on the roster w some input from Robin. In modern day baseball, the manger plays who he is given. With Robin's limited success, I am sure Hahn is calling the shots.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ May 21, 2016 -> 10:44 PM) The question is will they still be there after next weekend? Mark The answer is maybe not. But then the question is will they be the week after next....................................................

QUOTE (South Sider @ May 21, 2016 -> 08:51 AM) Disgust with the losses aside, this team should find some middle ground sooner than later. I think we have two fair assumptions that we can make. The first is that they're not as good as they initially played (.600+ winning percentage), and the second is that they are not as bad as they are playing now. This provides hope that yes, they can go on either another great run or find their way to a middle ground. Some people will argue that they are as bad as they are playing now, but I don't think that's fair. It's a slump, and a pretty ugly one at that but things will turn around. The kicker is that it just sucks watching the slump continue for what seems like forever with each passing day. The other crappy part is that we're in a homestand with KC and Cleveland with still no end in sight for the slump. I'm hoping like everyone else is that last night was rock bottom, because things can only go up from there. I also do want to acknowledge the arguments against the Sox, such as weak starters like Latos, Gonzalez and some pretty bad offensive players as well as what seems like a declining bullpen. These are definitely real issues but all teams in baseball deal with issues like those. It's about how you overcome them. For instance, the Royals were able to overcome using their #6 or #7 (right?) preferred starter last night. Obviously they'd rather have someone else, but they're still able to win the game. I would only add that they have not had any major injuries this season. Many teams already have lost a starter( pitcher or everyday) on the DL for the season. Unfortunately, the Sox will probably lose a key player as well like we did w Jones last year.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ May 20, 2016 -> 05:16 PM) Not really, gets him more PA and also lets him bat without Rollins or Jackson making an automatic out after Eaton gets on. But if Eaton does not get on, he is your "lead-off hitter" in the first. Regardless, I like a big lineup change going in to a big series. Confuse those sh** kickers from KC.

QUOTE (soxfan18 @ May 20, 2016 -> 06:07 PM) Then look harder. Cubs' Joe Maddon 'digging' success of crosstown rival White Sox http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/colum...427-column.html As a White Sox fan living on the east coast, the poster had me going with his rant. Then I find out he didn't do any homework. I recommend the poster be sent to the Charlotte Knights Message Board to work on some of his posting. http://www.topix.com/forum/minor-league-ba...arlotte-knights

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 20, 2016 -> 09:23 AM) I'm still shocked he's managing to pitch so well without Drake in the clubhouse. 2nd row behind the dugout..................

Sale and Q and then pray for rain for a few.

QUOTE (TRU @ May 19, 2016 -> 07:39 PM) You mean 3rd? Gaston won in 92 and 93. After that his teams never challenged again in his 2 stints as manager.