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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 18, 2016 -> 08:16 PM) Lincecum's line today: 6 IP, 4 hits, 1 ER, 2 BB's, 2 K's For 1/5th or 1/6th of the price of Shields. Much better for marketing purposes as well. But Shields is a great guy in the dugout.....................Unfortunately he only stays in it an inning or so.

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Jun 16, 2016 -> 02:18 AM) Shuck isn't good enough to play RF, but he's good enough to play CF. -- Robin Logic PS: Showcasing him be damned, Robin needs to win games, not try to trick people in to thinking Avi is a decent outfielder. HUH???? Baseball 101. Robin would not be showcasing him , Hahn would. If he is being played to showcase, that decision is made at the GM level

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 14, 2016 -> 12:57 AM) The Sox have lost something like 9 series in a row. The team has lost some of the most bizarre ways in club history. The team has not hit, has not pitched in the five week stretch. It is not a stretch to conjecture Rollins has to be glad to be out of Chicago. I don't agree. Rollins has 2 small children so having to find a new team after only 2 months in Chicago could be very disruptive to a young family. You may think it is a like video game but there are family issues involved in many of these changes. Hopefully it works out for him.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jun 14, 2016 -> 08:58 AM) I truly think as dumb as it sounds, that Avi is being showcased somehow. Ventura would give him multiple days off in a row at DH. Now he plays every day in the OF with a better defender on the bench. It really doesn't make any sense. Maybe, but Avi leade the White Sox in batting average w runners in scoring position. He is hitting .375. That is clutch.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jun 13, 2016 -> 08:34 PM) Shields is doing his part to get Robin fired. And if he keeps this up, he might get Hahn fired too. Actually you can't blame Robin or even Coop for Shields. You have to solely blame Hahn or Kenny for bringing him in. Now it is obvious why the Red Sox backed away.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Jun 13, 2016 -> 04:18 PM) The Ventura/Coop/KW era cannot come to end soon enough. You forgot Hahn. Supposedly this is his roster. If it is KW's then I agree w you. I assume you are happy w the offense??? I would include Steverson and Buddy Bell if they can find him. In fact throw in Herb Schneider. He has contributed to the downfall by keeping lousy players healthy.

QUOTE (Tex @ Jun 13, 2016 -> 11:20 AM) Every team has a flawed roster, well 30 or so do. It's up to the manager to maximize the good and minimize the flaws over the course of a long season. Which means flaws play sometimes. Yes, but the question is how flawed. Most fans thought this team was a .500 to plus 4-5 team. Not a playoff team. They entered the season w questions about 2 of the 5 starters. In addition SS, 2B, catcher and RF were all questionable as well. The bullpen looked solid. Flaws do play but too many means they don't play postseason. The GM( Hahn/Williams) constructed a mediocre team and Robin has kept it mediocre.

QUOTE (Real @ Jun 13, 2016 -> 01:09 AM) Isn't ventura in his last year? Less than 1% chance they fire him. He won't be back next year that's a given. I hope I would agree. I also think the blame is just as much on the GM ( whoever that really is) for giving Robin a flawed roster. Danks, Rollins, an awful bench, etc are all on poor decisions made going into the season. Bur regardless , it is time to move on from Robin. But now rather than wait. Test drive Renteria when games mean something. Then after the season, they can at least have a feel for what direction he may take the team. It is really a free sample for 4 months. My only concern is GM. If a change is coming there, want that person selecting his own manager.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jun 12, 2016 -> 10:03 PM) This is the only place where the word loyal is a four letter word. In most places it's a good thing. Who is loyal??? Is JR loyal??? He allowed his GM to fire Thobodeau. Maybe Hahn/KW are the ones who are loyal. Maybe JR is loyal to Robin becuase he played here.

QUOTE (miracleon35th @ Jun 12, 2016 -> 05:40 PM) Well said but cubz fans and at least one guy trying to inject his politics like to troll with that nonsense. No politics intended. Here is the link for a White Sox "Castro" hat http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-NWT-CHICAGO-W...m-/371440576478

QUOTE (GhostofDickeyKerr @ Jun 12, 2016 -> 04:51 PM) Good news: One step closer to Montreal. Too cold. Havana w Abreu is a natural. Obama gave Castro a White Sox cap when he visited.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 12, 2016 -> 08:20 AM) Right getting them over, a baseball play. It doesn't mean he was sacrificing. He was trying to get a hit. Like when there is a guy on second and nobody out, and hitters try to hit it to the right side. They want to make sure at the very least the runner gets to 3rd. They aren't sacrificing. Melky was trying to bunt for a hit, and at the very least advance the runners.who knows if it cost the team runs, but it did have the same effect as if he had hit a ball caught at the wall and the runners advanced. I guess what it does say is that Melky was trying to help the team in his mind. So to those who think some players on Sox are "selfish", we can exclude Melky.

QUOTE (jasonxctf @ Jun 10, 2016 -> 04:46 PM) what a horribly designed lineup. 1. Eaton 2. Abreu 3. Cabrera 4. Frazier 5. Shuck 6. Lawrie 7. Avila 8. Garcia 9. Anderson it should be... 1. Eaton 2. Cabrera 3. Abreu 4. Frazier 5. Garcia 6. Lawrie 7. Shuck 8. Anderson 9. Avila I disagree w your lineup. No you want Anderson in front of the top of the order not Avila. No you want Melky between Abreu and Frazier but I would rather they be 3-4-5. I guess until Anderson is comfortable they really don't have a real #2. Hey maybe throw the names in a hat and let Frake pull them.

Important Sale regains his form against a main competitor.

No walks given up by the staff is a great stat especially in a low scoring game.

QUOTE (knightni @ Jun 9, 2016 -> 04:03 PM) So, Danish is getting a cup of coffee? *rimshot* But Decaf

So he is out till after the All Star game. Then he will need at least a couple weeks in Charlotte seeing live pitching which means around August 1st. Can he manage the team until he is ready???

I have posted on this site for years that many posters totally miss the boat on attendance. Big market teams like the Yankees Red Sox Dodgers etc. have huge numbers of corporate season tickets. Not corporate boxes but grandstand seats. I can speak from experience as a long time New Englander that numerous successful businesses have 4-8 seat blocks in Fenway. Chicago is a big city so I would assume the Cubs must be getting the corporate seats in Chicago. I know when I visited a major Bank in town on business in 2003 they offered me Cub tickets during my stay. Corporate tickets better absorb down periods in on the field success. They also provide much higher up front money for the team than sales throughout the season. The downside for fans is that they also raise the prices of tickets for the fan who does not have access to corporate tickets. When I am in Tampa, 2 tickets to a Rays game are about $40 which is about the price of parking close to Fenway. Large market vs small market.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 01:19 AM) You make a trade ASAP or sell. It's not worth puttsing around for six more weeks and being even more out of it and then trading for a bat. This trade will be a mistake. Not because I think Bruce sucks but because this team just isn't very good. Bruce would come here and immediately suck too with the Sox luck lately with hitters. Problem is the sellers will want to wait till there are more buyers unless you want to overpay now. I doubt there will be too many trades until after the draft.

QUOTE (spiderman @ Jun 7, 2016 -> 06:00 PM) It sounds like that's the intention - leave him in the minors where he can continue to develop; however, if the major league play at SS is sub-par offensively and the team continues to a bottom feeder in offensive stats, I think there could be a change of course. Also depends on Anderson. He had a great start but has dropped off the last 2 weeks. Pretty normal for a young player.

QUOTE (SonofaRoache @ Jun 7, 2016 -> 11:12 AM) I was under the impression managers actually conducted and oversaw events called practices where they went over hitting, fielding, pitching, bunting, and real game situations to help the players get better. Guess I was wrong. Huh??? You are kidding I assume. Read Francona's book on the years he managed the Red Sox

QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 7, 2016 -> 01:14 PM) Hopefully Shields walking into the clubhouse today and being home will give them the shot in the arm they need. They care. And if you look at the injuries going on in the division, the Sox should be able to get right back in there. The team I'm most worried about going on a run now is the Tigers. That lineup can be potent and Michael Fulmer is showing why he's a good pitcher. As long as we don't get a major injury as well.

QUOTE (Dunt @ Jun 7, 2016 -> 08:18 AM) Anybody that thinks James Shields was ever an ace is crazy. David Price was the ace of those Rays teams, Shields has always been a compliment. During the years of their success, Price had one great year in 2012. In 2011 and 2013 when the Rays made the playoffs he was 22-21 combined. Shields those same two years was 29-21.

FWIW------ I just listened on talk-radio to Peter Abraham who has covered the Red Sox for Boston Globe for years. The question came up why Red Sox didn't make a move for Shields since they need a starter and their farm is loaded w prospects. He said Red Sox scouted him and felt he could not pitch effectively in Fenway so they wouldn't give up any prospects. So it helped the White Sox that the Red Sox dropped out of the bidding.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jun 6, 2016 -> 04:02 PM) You certainly did. Boy did I mess that up. I didn't really read what you were saying - just saw the names - and completely misinterpreted your point. And not in a respectful manner. I apologize to you and to the board. And I agree with your post. You have been sent down to the Charlotte Knights Message Board for a rehab stint.